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I just noticed your comment from half a year ago on this calc saying that cutting doesn't work that way. I based another calc off that method and have directed multiple other users to that calc as a sample for their own rock-cutting feats.
Did you ever get around to making that sort of method officially rejected?
Hey Ugarik, we're still racking our brains over how to find the speed of Genos's beam and EC in chapter 84 of OPM for the EC KE calc. Obviously both are at least supersonic, narratively far higher since we're talking about a dragon and a near dragon respectively. I still don't know of any way to calc the beam speed other than lowballing it at speed of sound, which is very much suboptimal if we can find any decent real life analogue. But I have had an epiphany and I would like your opinion before I invest time into it.
Death Gatling uses a super-gatling gun to face Garou right? 30mm munitions fired from a gatling gun like a GAU-Avenger have a 1010 m/s fire rate. Garou was able to deflect hundreds of bullets at this velocity yet struggled to escape Genos's beams, could we scale Genos's beam speed to Death Gatling's gun and find EC's speed off that?
Greetings! I was wondering if you could check these 3 feats:
1.A character throws a rock hard enough to circle the Moon and knock down another character
2.Also Squidward extends a measuring tape from the Moon to Earth in a matter of seconds. When he releases it hits sb on Earth. He says that distance is about 2 hundred and 38 thousand miles away
3.The Moon getting disintigrated
Hey Ugarik, I've been thinking about the Elder Centipede KE Calculation and I think I may have a better way to determine Elder Centipede's KE. So, finding the mass should not be much of an issue, Elder Centipede's length has been accepted as 4466 meters here and we can find the mass by upscaling from an ordinary centipede to account for the 15 meter width and 4446 meter length. Speed has been what's troubling me... we get a few panels where there are shockwaves around Elder Centipede as he moves (when he intercepts Genos's beam and when he charges at king), so it's obvious he's supersonic to some degree- but we also know he's faster than Genos's beams.
So here's my question, what if we scaled Genos's beam speed to that of a plasma cutter (6096m/s)? Genos's beams are made of plasma so it seemed like the natural point of comparison to me after I thought about it. Let me know if you think that's a good point of reference or if you have a better one.
Ugarik, you've said that melting is an assumption for CSRC. If the attack is scorching, what other method are you proposing? Surely you can't violently fragment or pulverize something by burning it away. Is there a method that would suit it better, assuming Boros would use a different method for CSRC?
Hey Ugarik, my CSRC calc was put on Boros's page despite not having a chosen end and it's been mentioned a couple times in this new CRT. I know you had some questions earlier, questions I gave my best answers to in a comment below your post. I would also state that Qawsed recently discovered that one of the flavor lines about Boros (in the guidebook I believe?) described CSRC as an attack that would "scorch" the surface of the planet, which is explained elsewhere to be the crust. Given the nature of Boros's other attacks, statements like that and mathematical issues with a lowball, I think melting makes the most sense since it would involve destroying the earth's crust via 'scorching'.
If that's a satisfactory justification, could you please choose an end for the calc? If not, I'll be happy to explain in a little more detail and find the statements in question. Thanks!
Hello sorry to bother you Ugarik, but DontTalk gave a recommendation saying that you might be able to calc this statement. The statement here is that Vacuumon a Nebula-like monster who swallowed the Big Dipper constellation in 10 days and parts of Cancer constellation has the ability to compress the Earth into the size of a sugar cube. So I was hoping to see if you could calc compressing the Earth into the size of a sugar cube.
Hello buddy, could you take a look at this simple calc? It's basically the old King Ghidorah sun absorbing feat, but now using energy per second as someone said to me it would be the most correct thing to use.
Hello again. I updated the sky folk calc and responded to your questions about the CSRC recalc. Let me know if the sky folk calc needs any more adjustments before it's useable.
For CSRC, perhaps I could've explained my methodology later. The calc came about after a long debate about CSRC and the proper method. At first I suggested melting because Boros says he will shave the earth (crust specifically according to Qawsed) and I figured that it would be truer to form to calculate crustal destruction with the right method (Boros's normal method of attacking, which we agreed was melting in that thread).
Plus I figured it would yield higher results than the planetwide explosion method, which happened to be true.
But now, I have a few more reasons to support the recalc. Number 1- the ocean problem. It requires about 867 petatons to vaporize the oceans and expose the underlying oceanic crust, which is the majority of the planet's crust. Any attack that does not penetrate the depths of the ocean is not going to destroy the crust in its entirety, it may not even effect a majority of the crust. While 184 petatons might debatably destroy most of the crust without completely destroying the oceans, it seems simpler and surer to use my methods which would involve boiling away nearly all the ocean and devastating the overwhelming majority of the underlying upper crust (low end) or practically all the crust except the lower lithosphere (high end).
Furthermore, Qawsed also discovered a recent translation that describes CSRC as scorching the crust, which fits melting pretty well. The guidebook describes CSRC as "The roar of despair that scorches the Earth". This is new information btw, Qawsed only discovered it a couple days ago.
Between the problems 184 petatons might have in actually destroying the entirety of the earth's crust and the descriptors about "shaving the crust" (ask Qawsed for specifics about this one) and "scorching" said crust, with melting being Boros's only known energy attack method- I think it makes sense to A) replace the explosion calc and B) implement the melting calc.
Hi sorry to bother u so late, but could you help me with a question? If a character jumps off the moon and the force of the jump causes a gigantic crater then the person lands on a ship. The ship gets a small crater in it were the person landed, but for the most part the ship is intake. Does the ship's durability scale to the damage that person did on the moon? Or is the force reduced/dispersed before the person lands?
To further elaborate on your question here - if we were taking Sniper's arrows as reference we would end up with goofy things such as Soldier's rockets barely moving at half the speed as RPG-7s do in real life despite TF2's technological advantage over the real world. Could you maybe comment on that blog again, mentioning if it is now good to go - it has been brought up here that you questioned some things of the speed calc and it would likely be preferable if we could be 100% sure if the calc is fair game.
Thank you in advance and take all the time you need.
Hey, sorry to disturb. This MonsterVerse calc that you accepted has had a pretty big problem brought up with it. Would you mind commenting again to give you're opinion on the problem? Ant has asked for you to reply.
Hey Ugarik, so- Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon was recalced two months ago as melting instead of a generic explosion based on the discussion had here, as well as a translation by Qawsed: https://vsbattles.com/threads/crsc-...oo-scraping-the-surface-of-the-planet.109725/. Basically, the kanji comes out to mean that the surface/crust of the earth will be shaved/destroyed, and we decided that melting would be the most sensible method give Boros's shown feats.
I'm doing a calc that involves knowing the area of a sea. Now the outer rim is 100 million km thick (stated in-verse). The only thing we know about the inner realm is that people who can cross the outer rim in a short time (months to a few years), take at least 100 years to cross the inner rim. Now calculating the inner rim's size based on speeds is somewhat impossible so I'm asking if assuming the inner rim =10x Outer Rim is reasonable.