Team Fortress 2 possible AP upgrade

[The_Calaca]

We should probably get this applied before the inevitable wave of Overwatch getting smacked down by TF2 threads happens

FTFY ovo

 

[WeeklyBattles]

?

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

We should probably get this applied before the inevitable wave of Overwatch vs tf2 threads happens

Are they really going to be 9-A?

 

[Jackythejack]

They are 9-A now currently

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

They are 9-A now currently

What about speed? As for TF2 speed currently on foot/movement is Subsonic which I don't always like saying it but a few people did have a gripe with the calc at some point.

 

[Jackythejack]

Subsonic with Hypersonic reactions and combat speed

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Subsonic with Hypersonic reactions and combat speed

I'm guessing that's from Overwatch but I was mentioning TF2's side of speed (Staying on topic.) Which if I recall ranged from "Subsonic with Supersonic(+) reactions" Though I remember looking back on the Subsonic calc some people were doubtful of the Subsonic part.

 

[Absaddie]

They vaporize or even atomize people with their weaponry and the same goes for the robots and these laser weapons are typically on the weaker end of fire power and their are plenty of them.

Also their is a hat cosmetic for Scout that says light speed can't keep up with you https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Cross-Comm_Express

 

[WeeklyBattles]

In-game damage does not translate to how we rate them via ap here

 

[Absaddie]

Then what do you make of the atomizer being able to atomize people

 

[Absaddie]

Also Merasmus can utilize meteors

 

[Jackythejack]

Wait he can?

shit you might have something there.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Then what do you make of the atomizer being able to atomize people

Its a good feat for the weapon itself but it doesnt scale to anyone

 

[Absaddie]

Why not?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

There's a weapon that vaporizes, but I doubt atomization. And it's a good 9-A weapon, but it one shots everyone and literally vaporizes them, so no one's durability would be quite 300 Megajoules. As far as "atomization", the only example I found was a bat called the "Atomizer". But that's it. It's the name of a bat, and it has nothing to do with splitting/separating atoms.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yes its the Cow Mangler

 

[Torlikoff]

It does not one shot everyone, not even close. The basic shot cannot kill any class In one hit.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Getting vaporized is far from durability though.

 

[Torlikoff]

I'm just saying that every class can survive at least one vaporizing shot

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Humans can survive being shot with a gun but we dont treat all humans as 9-C

 

[Torlikoff]

We would if they could guaranteed tank a bullet

 

[DMUA]

Guns also don't instantly vaporize people on contact by washing them with heat

They just take a small surface area and hit it with 9-C power

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Tor Except TF2 characters cannot 100% guaranteed tank the vaporizing attack, and if they do theyre left near death

 

[Absaddie]

Well nvm about the atomizer, it's a bat. https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Manmelter This on the other hand has "atomizing" in it's description.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Also Merasmus can utilize meteors

WAIT HANG ON A BLEEDING SECOND YOU ARE ON TO SOMETHING... No wait asteroids come in different sizes BUT NEVERTHELESS if they evade said Meteors the speed in doing so would require Hypersonic reaction/combat speeds or am I wrong?

 

[Maskofthedragon]

@Tor Except TF2 characters cannot 100% guaranteed tank the vaporizing attack, and if they do theyre left near death

Soldier kinda needs to tank the Cow Manger in order to rocket jump

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looking at this video that does not look like atomization. It looks more like it ignites flame but vaporizes over time. There is still smoke which is only vaporization as opposed to atomization. It's not splitting every single atom in the body. I'm also still skeptical about the meteor stuff unless there's direct proof.

 

[Torlikoff]

It's still a good feat because every character can survive it many times.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

I'm also still skeptical about the meteor stuff unless there's direct proof.

Same we need to see the stuff first it's just too good to be true.

 

[Absaddie]

Proof of what exacty? It's a move he can do. The mercs can also use them when they have access to the spell book.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Proof of what exacty? It's a move he can do. The mercs can also use them when they have access to the spell book.

All of the Mercs? I mean that's why they asked for evidence to make these things less complicated. And if they can evade said Meteors this could mean something also and how potent they can be for a calc.

 

[Maskofthedragon]

Footage of the meteor shower spell

https://youtu.be/4EpeU7IOoTo?t=253

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Those don't look like real meteors, but rather a scattering blue fire attack.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Those don't look like real meteors, but rather a scattering blue fire attack.

Yeah.

 

[Wokistan]

The spell is called meteor shower and you can see them fragment on the ground, though that spell tends to one shot people anyways

 

[Unoriginal_Memes]

I think it only one-shots if it hits you head on, as I've seen some people survive it. Though they didn't take one head on, which leads me to believe they can survive a grazing shot. They can also survive being in close proximity to the explosion.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

I think it only one-shots if it hits you head on, as I've seen some people survive it. Though they didn't take one head on, which leads me to believe they can survive a grazing shot. They can also survive being in close proximity to the explosion.

... Interesting, Then again.

 

[Wokistan]

I disagree with using hypersonic speed anyways since it's pretty obvious they aren't going that fast when you consider their movement relative to everything else. You'd need something else that could reasonably be that fast.

 

[Absaddie]

It's a different colour based on your team of course.

https://youtu.be/-DfdWHJ5RcM?t=34 Was this an actual event by the way? Or is it all just mods because that background voice sounds oddly good enough to be canon.

 

[Absaddie]

Still don't understand why we can't use them being able to vaporize/atomize robots.