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Strongest 5D Characters on the Wiki

Ar1216789 said:
The Sugar Swan talks to the Player and other Cookies talk to the Developers and is casually beyond the authority of the Executive Producer. They all know their world is fictional. (Cookie run cosmology blog) Cookies have been to the Human World (Executive Producers desk to be precise) She also has an avatar in every existing universe, omnipresence is also on her page.
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Alright I’ll concede on the 4th wall breaking point then.

The range I still think would be an issue. Because as expansive as the cookie cosmology is and SS being one with it…
From VBW, if layered ranges are not established for cookie run then it’s assumed all areas across cookie run can be reached with standard 5-D range and that SS omnipresence only covers a standard 5-D range

And Arale exists and/or can move outside that range, so still incon right there
 
Ss3micah said:
Alright I’ll concede on the 4th wall breaking point then.

The range I still think would be an issue. Because as expansive as the cookie cosmology is and SS being one with it…
From VBW, if layered ranges are not established for cookie run then it’s assumed all areas across cookie run can be reached with standard 5-D range and that SS omnipresence only covers a standard 5-D range

And Arale exists and/or can move outside that range, so still incon right there
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The Cookie Run Cosmology is weird with many outliers, especially the time rifts and time pockets. But for now I say we just put DBZ (Arale) and Sugar Swan as interchangeable, this seems good to me considering they incon each other
 
Robo432343 said:
i forgot about them
i'll just change it to Characters from God of War (Kratos and Primordials)
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Also, characters from Dragon Ball get a spot in 6th and 7th. Isn't it the rule that each verse only gets 1 spot?
That means only using Arale as the representative of Dragon Ball.
 
Robo432343 said:
i can't put them at the same place because SS just stomps demigra. goku and fu
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You can more or less put all of them as incon to SS for almost the same reason.

Goku, Fu, Demigra. All have Dimensional travel / Teleportation that has layered 5-D range. All can move across ranges higher than baseline 5-D range.

The only difference between Arale and Demigra/Fu/Goku is that the former can automatically start outside of SS range while the latter has to actively move outside of SS range.
Assuming SS doesn’t have some passive that instantly nukes Demigra/Fu/Goku off the census, then they can all escape SS range of effect and incon her.

And assuming speed is unequal I then incon is assured. Before bringing up the speed of SS being omnipresent, keep in mind the speed page says this about omnipresence

This should all be analyzed on a case by case basis - omnipresent characters cannot be automatically assumed to have Infinite or Immeasurable speeds, and attacks coming from them do not necessarily cover the entire universe or multiverse. Some attacks can even be temporally but not spatially omnipresent, and these attacks do not necessarily move through space at Infinite or Immeasurable speeds.

SS may have omnipresence but considering that the fastest notable speed on Cookie run is MFTL+, unless any additional Context is added that I’m missing here, then Goku/Fu/Demigra can outspeed and outrange SS and force the incon.
 
Ss3micah said:
You can more or less put all of them as incon to SS for almost the same reason.

Goku, Fu, Demigra. All have Dimensional travel / Teleportation that has layered 5-D range. All can move across ranges higher than baseline 5-D range.

The only difference between Arale and Demigra/Fu/Goku is that the former can automatically start outside of SS range while the latter has to actively move outside of SS range.
Assuming SS doesn’t have some passive that instantly nukes Demigra/Fu/Goku off the census, then they can all escape SS range of effect and incon her.

And assuming speed is unequal I then incon is assured. Before bringing up the speed of SS being omnipresent, keep in mind the speed page says this about omnipresence

This should all be analyzed on a case by case basis - omnipresent characters cannot be automatically assumed to have Infinite or Immeasurable speeds, and attacks coming from them do not necessarily cover the entire universe or multiverse. Some attacks can even be temporally but not spatially omnipresent, and these attacks do not necessarily move through space at Infinite or Immeasurable speeds.

SS may have omnipresence but considering that the fastest notable speed on Cookie run is MFTL+, unless any additional Context is added that I’m missing here, then Goku/Fu/Demigra can outspeed and outrange SS and force the incon.
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Well the other besides Arale, get stomped via her Concept Manip or just win due to Abstract Existence. She'll be Large Size Type 10 and use her Invocation Cards and Pets which are all passive. Eventually, one of the hax should hit EEing, petrification, Coin Magic which turns anything in range to a goin, new PepBook transforming people into information.

Sugar Swans' Omnipresence is both Temporal and Spatial. She exists in every point in space and time. Similar to Timekeeper Cookie who has Temporal Omnipresence (Sugar Swan views her as a jest)

Idk why you brought this up considering speed is equalized here. The reason the Sugar Swan has higher speed than everyone else inverse is because she created all of them and embodies the cosmology. She the balance of all things and the cycle of life which maintains the entire world. Creating concepts such as space, time, etc. She maintains every single concept and embodies it. Including the Nature of Existence which exists both everywhere and nowhere.
 
Phoenks said:
Btw what character(s) is representing blazblue? Is it just Ragna?
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Ar1216789 said:
She'll be Large Size Type 10 and use her Invocation Cards and Pets which are all passive. Eventually, one of the hax should hit EEing, petrification, Coin Magic which turns anything in range to a goin, new PepBook transforming people into information.

Sugar Swans' Omnipresence is both Temporal and Spatial. She exists in every point in space and time. Similar to Timekeeper Cookie who has Temporal Omnipresence (Sugar Swan views her as a jest)
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Idrc about this fight, but idk why you keep bring up Large Size type 10, Omnipresence when not only DBH but also all characters on this list have enough range to affect Low 1-C structure which is also the range require to be Large Size type 10. Omnipresence is just, Omnipresence, can still be affected with enough range
 
Vietthai96 said:
Idrc about this fight, but idk why you keep bring up Large Size type 10, Omnipresence when not only DBH but also all characters on this list have enough range to affect Low 1-C structure which is also the range require to be Large Size type 10. Omnipresence is just, Omnipresence, can still be affected with enough range
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I wasn't talking to you 😭 but Large Size Type 10 is an advantage
 
LephyrTheRevanchist said:
lol

And it's definitely Type 2 by what Truenames are.
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the blog look incomplete ngl, and tbh, as someone who do not know anything about DnD aside from its name and popularity, idk what Truename can do, so i will just leave it as it is

Robo432343 said:
the dungeons and dragons characters don't have resistance to info manip 2
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anyway, DnD aside, unironically, i think DBH stomp Sacred Ancestor, his page is outdated since there was an accepted CRT to remove some of Akashic Record abilities like Plot hax but no one bother to applies, his haxes isn't passive from what i see and resistances are baseline which get stomped by DBH layers
 
Requesting for Timekeeper Cookies placement here. She isn't at the level of the Sugar Swan, Sugar Swan views her as inferior and as a "jest", they don't see Timekeeper Cookie as a threat to the cosmology, even though she has destroyed countless universes. Timekeeper Cookie also admitted inferiority to Millenial Tree Cookie, who is inferior the Sugar Swan.
 
Vietthai96 said:
the blog look incomplete ngl, and tbh, as someone who do not know anything about DnD aside from its name and popularity, idk what Truename can do, so i will just leave it as it is
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It is. That thing only covers like 4 books... Out of 40+ years game history.

Truenames are the most fundamental thing in D&D. Souls already are abstract type 1, as each soul is conceptual in nature. These souls by themselves possess truenames, which are the building blocks of all of reality/the multiverse. Even gods (abstract type 1) have them. The blog itself mentions how truenames are conceptual (look up the resistance to concept manip, it's based on resisting truenames too)
 
LephyrTheRevanchist said:
It is. That thing only covers like 4 books... Out of 40+ years game history.

Truenames are the most fundamental thing in D&D. Souls already are abstract type 1, as each soul is conceptual in nature. These souls by themselves possess truenames, which are the building blocks of all of reality/the multiverse. Even gods (abstract type 1) have them. The blog itself mentions how truenames are conceptual (look up the resistance to concept manip, it's based on resisting truenames too)
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If DND is so outdated, then why it is here?
 
Robo432343 said:
because this list would be lying
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That is stupid, putting someone that outdated is already lying, and decieving. Also another chinamen coming
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Hello, I'm back with a 60k thread (wiki profile/key update). I mean did you expect less from me? It did take over a year to make as I was lazy, had other stuff to do in real life, and didn't have the will to work on profiles or anything anymore but still, laziness was the biggest hurdle to get...
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Livinmeme said:
Yes it is, you are putting a blatantly outdated profile as the strongest thing, it is decieving
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just because a profile is outdated does not mean they can't be in this list wtf
this thread is strongest 5d characters, not the character who has the best profiles
 
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Vietthai96 said:
unironically, i think DBH stomp Sacred Ancestor, his page is outdated since there was an accepted CRT to remove some of Akashic Record abilities like Plot hax but no one bother to applies, his haxes isn't passive from what i see and resistances are baseline which get stomped by DBH layers
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NEP type 2
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