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Assuming DBH characters can’t affect SS, wouldn’t they incon via defensive causality manipulation that just undoes anything she does or their other wall of haxes and resistances?
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All her Pets and Invocation Cards are passive. Then we have her Curse that negates all powers and debuffs opponent.sAssuming DBH characters can’t affect SS, wouldn’t they incon via defensive causality manipulation that just undoes anything she does or their other wall of haxes and resistances?
A lot of DBH character haxes are passive too, including power null and the aforementioned causality manipAll her Pets and Invocation Cards are passive. Then we have her Curse that negates all powers and debuffs opponent.s
Check the Sugar Swans page. Better and more Passive Hax and then we have her concept manip. Passive Coin Magic which turns anyone in Radius to Coins.A lot of DBH character haxes are passive too, including power null and the aforementioned causality manip
All of them save for law, concept and plot get resisted meanwhile Sugar Swan can’t negate their fate and causality manip, which are passive too.Check the Sugar Swans page. Better and more Passive Hax and then we have her concept manip. Passive Coin Magic which turns anyone in Radius to Coins.
Fate can be avoided in Cookie Run. (Check Sea Fairy's profile) She can also undo effects of causality. Keep in mind shes Large Size Type 10 so these attacks cover a HUGE distanceAll of them save for law, concept and plot get resisted meanwhile Sugar Swan can’t negate their fate and causality manip, which are passive too.
iirc all time power hax is layered, not to mention nothing on SF’s profile remotely mentions her being able to undo causality.Fate can be avoided in Cookie Run. (Check Sea Fairy's profile) She can also undo effects of causality. Keep in mind shes Large Size Type 10 so these attacks cover a HUGE distance
She can undo it. She's been portrayed to undo cause and effect in the game. I also explained how it can be avoided. She has lots of thought based hax, and much more Passive Hax. They can't even win considering they can't affect her via Abstract Existence.iirc all time power hax is layered, not to mention nothing on SF’s profile remotely mentions her being able to undo causality.
DBH characters also literally have the range to effect large size type 10 characters lol
So put it on the profiles.She can undo it. She's been portrayed to undo cause and effect in the game. .
Time power has layered fate and causality manip, not to mention it can work on type 4 acausals who explicitly resist fate and operate outside of conventional causality.I also explained how it can be avoided.
All of which are resisted save for concept manip and plot manip, with it not even being elaborated on how she uses it in combat.She has lots of thought based hax, and much more Passive Hax.
Incon at best considering she can’t permanently incapacitate them due to passive causality and fate manip, along with passive subjective reality and history and type 2 info erasure to erase any of her projectiles (all of which are layered).They can't even win considering they can't affect her via Abstract Existence.
Almost all DBZ Hax she has to a higher extent, besides Arales Layered Plot Manip and Info Manip (which wouldn't work on her)So put it on the profiles.
Time power has layered fate and causality manip, not to mention it can work on type 4 acausals who explicitly resist fate and operate outside of conventional causality.
All of which are resisted save for concept manip and plot manip, with it not even being elaborated on how she uses it in combat.
Incon at best considering she can’t permanently incapacitate them due to passive causality and fate manip, along with passive subjective reality and history and type 2 info erasure to erase any of her projectiles (all of which are layered).
They should put DB (Arale) and Sugar Swan as interchangeable. Seems most reasonable to me. Or if they can't interact with her it should remain the way it is.I dont think the Top tiers for DB could even interact with SS cause Type 1 Concept, AE
The attacks are coming from a type 1 conceptual being who they can’t even perceiveOk here is the thing time power users can reverse the action of whatever ss does by nullifying time as explained in there causality manipulation section passively
You are confusing things here they aren't affecting ss here but the time that affects there body this undoing whatever changes happen to them by reversing causality it is kinda like gerThe attacks are coming from a type 1 conceptual being who they can’t even perceive
Also they can’t nullify conceptual abilities
You are confusing things here they aren't affecting ss here but the time that affects there body this undoing whatever changes happen to them by reversing causality it is kinda like ger
Transduality 2 and there are passive resistance negation from that creator profile, idk about the rest thoughwhat about dbh vs wizard101
I doubt you can kill a being who cannot die as long as a certain concept exists (AE type 1) by… doing affecting something entirely different that said concept. Going by the AE type 1 page:
Arale cannot affect the abstraction, so she can't affect SS. Period
Period
The Sugar Swan talks to the Player and other Cookies talk to the Developers and is casually beyond the authority of the Executive Producer. They all know their world is fictional. (Cookie run cosmology blog) Cookies have been to the Human World (Executive Producers desk to be precise) She also has an avatar in every existing universe, omnipresence is also on her page. Speed is equalized, so her Omnipresence won't do muchI’m not gonna get into it too much (as I’m currently at work) but I will say at least that both Sugar Swan and Arale likely incon each other. Arale can’t put down SS due to her AE1 based on Concepts. But Arale has Multilocation which allows her to simultaneously operate inside and outside of the plot at the same times.
Why is the important?
Because as far as VBW is concerned, Their is the DBH main multiverse with all its collection of 5-D Timelines and then their is the CoT which is an area that characters with standard 5-D range cannot reach nor affect normally. “So basically 1 layered 5-D range”. And then the area outside the plot exists outside the story and completely cosmology of DBH in its entirety and is an area where characters who have threatened to destroy all things across the DBH cosmology cannot reach nor affect. That’s makes the area outside the plot 2 layers above standard 5-D range. And Arale can simultaneously be in the multiverse and outside the plot at the same time.
What does this mean?
Even if Arale can’t put down Sugar Swan, SS can’t reach nor affect Arale outside of the plot. It is an area beyond SS reach. So they both realistically incon each other.
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Not to mention SS would need to necessary 4th wall breaking feats to begin with to perceive the Arale outside the plot. If she doesn’t have the necessary 4th wall awareness then something akin to THIS FOR EXAMPLE WOULD HAPPEN. SS would be in a loop of not being able to perceive Arale nor reach her either.
Alright I’ll concede on the 4th wall breaking point then.The Sugar Swan talks to the Player and other Cookies talk to the Developers and is casually beyond the authority of the Executive Producer. They all know their world is fictional. (Cookie run cosmology blog) Cookies have been to the Human World (Executive Producers desk to be precise) She also has an avatar in every existing universe, omnipresence is also on her page.
The Cookie Run Cosmology is weird with many outliers, especially the time rifts and time pockets. But for now I say we just put DBZ (Arale) and Sugar Swan as interchangeable, this seems good to me considering they incon each otherAlright I’ll concede on the 4th wall breaking point then.
The range I still think would be an issue. Because as expansive as the cookie cosmology is and SS being one with it…
From VBW, if layered ranges are not established for cookie run then it’s assumed all areas across cookie run can be reached with standard 5-D range and that SS omnipresence only covers a standard 5-D range
And Arale exists and/or can move outside that range, so still incon right there
I can agree to thatThe Cookie Run Cosmology is weird with many outliers, especially the time rifts and time pockets. But for now I say we just put DBZ (Arale) and Sugar Swan as interchangeable, this seems good to me considering they incon each other
You literally can. Just put Arale higher.i can't put them at the same place because SS just stomps demigra. goku and fu
ohJust wondering why not use Primordials instead of Kratos for God of War.
So why not use them instead of Kratos to get a higher spot for GOW?oh
dbh characters can't interact with them but arale will incon
i forgot about themSo why not use them instead of Kratos to get a higher spot for GOW?
Also, characters from Dragon Ball get a spot in 6th and 7th. Isn't it the rule that each verse only gets 1 spot?i forgot about them
i'll just change it to Characters from God of War (Kratos and Primordials)
but arale is dragon ball fusionsAlso, characters from Dragon Ball get a spot in 6th and 7th. Isn't it the rule that each verse only gets 1 spot?
That means only using Arale as the representative of Dragon Ball.
You can more or less put all of them as incon to SS for almost the same reason.i can't put them at the same place because SS just stomps demigra. goku and fu
Which is still apart of the Heroes Multiversebut arale is dragon ball fusions
Well the other besides Arale, get stomped via her Concept Manip or just win due to Abstract Existence. She'll be Large Size Type 10 and use her Invocation Cards and Pets which are all passive. Eventually, one of the hax should hit EEing, petrification, Coin Magic which turns anything in range to a goin, new PepBook transforming people into information.You can more or less put all of them as incon to SS for almost the same reason.
Goku, Fu, Demigra. All have Dimensional travel / Teleportation that has layered 5-D range. All can move across ranges higher than baseline 5-D range.
The only difference between Arale and Demigra/Fu/Goku is that the former can automatically start outside of SS range while the latter has to actively move outside of SS range.
Assuming SS doesn’t have some passive that instantly nukes Demigra/Fu/Goku off the census, then they can all escape SS range of effect and incon her.
And assuming speed is unequal I then incon is assured. Before bringing up the speed of SS being omnipresent, keep in mind the speed page says this about omnipresence
This should all be analyzed on a case by case basis - omnipresent characters cannot be automatically assumed to have Infinite or Immeasurable speeds, and attacks coming from them do not necessarily cover the entire universe or multiverse. Some attacks can even be temporally but not spatially omnipresent, and these attacks do not necessarily move through space at Infinite or Immeasurable speeds.
SS may have omnipresence but considering that the fastest notable speed on Cookie run is MFTL+, unless any additional Context is added that I’m missing here, then Goku/Fu/Demigra can outspeed and outrange SS and force the incon.
andBtw what character(s) is representing blazblue? Is it just Ragna?
Idrc about this fight, but idk why you keep bring up Large Size type 10, Omnipresence when not only DBH but also all characters on this list have enough range to affect Low 1-C structure which is also the range require to be Large Size type 10. Omnipresence is just, Omnipresence, can still be affected with enough rangeShe'll be Large Size Type 10 and use her Invocation Cards and Pets which are all passive. Eventually, one of the hax should hit EEing, petrification, Coin Magic which turns anything in range to a goin, new PepBook transforming people into information.
Sugar Swans' Omnipresence is both Temporal and Spatial. She exists in every point in space and time. Similar to Timekeeper Cookie who has Temporal Omnipresence (Sugar Swan views her as a jest)
@Ottavio_MerluzzoAlso, characters from Dragon Ball get a spot in 6th and 7th. Isn't it the rule that each verse only gets 1 spot?
That means only using Arale as the representative of Dragon Ball.