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Star Wars Discussion Thread Canon/Legends- Episode V Attack of the Fanons

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I thought that the Cad Bane fight was a let down, and its honestly kind of a dog act that Boba got sidelined in his own show. I wish there was another episode or two with a focus on Boba and his gang. That way the Bane fight wouldn't have to be rushed.

Overall though I did enjoy the series. It could have done somethings better especially at the end but it was still a fun ride.
 
I suppose the shield thingies should be treated as resistant to blasters and lightsabers cuz Mando said so? No way Krrsantan and the Rancor are stronger than the Darksaber.
 
Krrsantan seems to beat fodder Trandoshans pretty easily and it took a lot of them to overwhelm him and he still escaped. I suppose he's an above average Wookiee and Bossk is an above average Trandoshan as well?
 
Krrsantan seems to beat fodder Trandoshans pretty easily and it took a lot of them to overwhelm him and he still escaped. I suppose he's an above average Wookiee and Bossk is an above average Trandoshan as well?
Bossk is tough.

He has a reputation as a seasoned Wookiee hunter and has a rivalry with Chewie. I also doubt he's weaker than that Trando foreman who fought evenly against Zeb, who was stated to be as strong as Wookiees.

Bossk and Krrsantan have actually faced off once (albeit very briefly and the fight was interrupted) in the comics. It seemed Krrsantan was stronger, but Bossk was still able to withstand being choked by him and also managed to pin him to the ground at one point with a dagger to Krrsantan's throat.
 
@Soldier_Blue Also do you have the scan of Solo scaling to Tolvan? I'd imagine that makes a lot of people 9-A.
Aphra takes a blow to the head from an enraged Tovan (who was genuinely out to kill her and had just prior shot Aphra) in her comic series and still keeps standing. In the Vader down series, Aphra and Han knock each other out by headbutting each other.

Solo scales to Tolvan through Aphra, I guess?

Unable to post scans right now. Sorry. On shitty mobile data connection and using hotspot.
 
Speaking of which, I was going to downgrade a lot of those 9-As.
Yeah I remembered that from the Canon revision. I've been collecting bits and pieces from past revision threads but I haven't really done much actual research


@Soldier Blue I misremembered that as Solo head butting Tolvan but ok.
 
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I think this shows just how strong someone like Chewbaca is.

When he wants to, he could just rip the arm off someone like Aphra.
 
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But don't you have to be dangerously close for this to work plus don't some jedi how the ability to block it with the force like kenobi?
 
I watched The Book of Boba Fett.

The visual effects are very hit or miss, especially the CGI creature effects. When they're good, they're amazing (like Mos Espa and the space colony in episode 5), when they're bad they look like some of the better films from The Asylum or the CW (the one that made the Arrowverse, not the Clone Wars).

Somehow, there's also scenes of blaster fire that look worse than something I could do in paint.net, which I can chalk that up to the area's bright lighting and sand. But the holograms and some other very common Star Wars effects just look strangely bad when compared to something like The Mandalorian. I have to admit, however, the Luke effects in Episode 5 are way better than they were in The Mandalorian.

The action scenes and choreography vary just as much.

I liked that elements of the story are integrated very organically. The Mandalorian took place in 9 ABY, which is 5 years after Jabba's death, and the present elements of The Book of Boba Fett are set shortly after, so it makes perfect sense that the other Hutts are only getting to Tatooine now (they're embroiled in New Republic scandals). That being said, I don't think they blended the two timelines very well in some places.

The Twins also appear for 2 episodes and are like 'sorry for trying to kill you, the mayor lied to us. We'll just leave the show entirely.'

It's great how they stress that the N-1 is handmade just for the Royal Guard. George Lucas and co explained this after the release of TPM because people didn't get that TIEs and X-wings are mass-produced, but people still complained that they looked more advanced. This finally destroys that complaint for good.


Into the feats.
  • Episode 2 shows blasters moving at dozens or hundreds of metres per second. Nothing I can add to here, unfortunately. (I take requests for that blog, btw.)
  • Armourless Bobba Fett was easily overpowered by Krrsantan, but withstood hits from brass knuckles that eventually knocked out Chewbacca.
  • The Slave I's armament is downplayed to hell, despite AoTC, TCW and The Mandalorian portraying it as way more powerful.
  • Krrsantan shows that standard Trandoshans (and probably Wookies) don't compare to the elites, with him even ripping one's arm off.
  • There's a very impressive carpet bombing from TIE Bombers in episode 5.
  • If the thrust power of an N-1 is doubled, it should be capable of moving at a little over 1,555 km/h no matter the given mass, which is faster than a TIE/sf. This makes sense because it moves so fast that an X-wing pilot thought it was jumping to hyperspace when it was accelerating with its sub-light thrusters.
  • Luke has Telepathy/Memory Manipulation.
  • Krrsantan's bandolier can shrug off blaster fire.
  • Warrior Rancors have more effect on Scorpenek shielding than lightsabers and blasters. It also demolished a small building/some towers, and shrugged off one's blast.
  • This Warrior Rancor couldn't do anything to Beskar.
  • Grogu can calm animals, like Ezra and Kanan.
 
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Beskar should just be straight-up 8-A tbh, nothing to suggest it is only specifically resistant against lightsaber and it's consistently treated as very strong.

Mando said something about both energy weapons and kinetic weapons not working against the shields, not sure if that's just about pure AP or some weird hax stuff since Star Wars shields have always been kinda weird to me.

I've been talking about the Trandoshan thing too. I'd imagine it'll downgrade a couple of 9-As that scale to Trandoshans and no upgrade for Mando.
 
It's a money laundering scheme.

Edit: Riverdale and The Flash still exist, so I think they'd be able to make a better money laundering scheme if Kenobi actually was a thing.
 
Beskar should just be straight-up 8-A tbh, nothing to suggest it is only specifically resistant against lightsaber and it's consistently treated as very strong.

Mando said something about both energy weapons and kinetic weapons not working against the shields, not sure if that's just about pure AP or some weird hax stuff since Star Wars shields have always been kinda weird to me.

I've been talking about the Trandoshan thing too. I'd imagine it'll downgrade a couple of 9-As that scale to Trandoshans and no upgrade for Mando.
Beskar also has a ton of supporting 8-B feats to support this.
 
hey guys what's the best gun/blaster in Star Wars Legends (got any cool ones?)
That is highly subjective. It is no different from asking which real life firearm is the best.

However, to answer your question; and mind you this is my own opinion:

EC-17, Blurrg-1120, ELG-3A are probably among the best hold-out/sporting blasters. The ELG-3A blaster pistol is arguably better overall, but it is somewhat expensive (at least for a holdout blaster pistol) and exclusive to be considered a viable option for someone looking for a cheap and easily available option. EC-17 and Blurrg-1120 are cheaper, just good enough to get the job done, fairly simple, easier to conceal because of the much shorter length, and will work with cheap-ass red-orange Tibanna gas. Sure, they probably have shit accuracy at more than a couple of dozen metres, but holdout blasters are meant for personal defence in very tight quarters. EC-17 has seen use with pretty much every faction post Clone Wars, and Blurrg-1120 has also seen some good usage. Closest real life equivalents would be something like the Mauser HSc, Walther PPK/P22/PK380, SIG-Sauer P230/P232, Bersa Thunder, Glock 26/28/42/43 and such.

DL-44 is probably one of the best heavy blaster pistols without a doubt: not that expensive, reliable, rugged, high yield per shot, decent accuracy, can punch through even the toughest body armour, is modular and can be converted to a carbine, has been in use galaxy-wide for seven or eight decades at least. It's the Browning Hi-Power or M1911 of Star Wars blaster pistols. In Canon, the NN-14 and X-8 Night Sniper are good competitors to the DL-44.

DH-17 is probably one of the best light repeating blasters. Closest real life equivalents are SMGs and PDWs like the Uzi, Steyr TMP, HK MP7. Yeah, the DH-17 is definitely the Uzi of Star Wars: sized in-between heavy blaster pistols and blaster carbines, has a full auto mode, great for combat in close quarters but with better range and accuracy than a regular blaster pistol, great for everyone from bodyguards to law enforcement to special forces, cheap and reliable, like the DL-44 it has seen use by literally every faction in the galaxy.

Not sure what the best blaster carbine is. I suppose an argument could be made for the Canon iteration of the DH-17 rifle; which seems to be fairly common, has seen decades-long service, seems fairly simple to use, and with decent rates of fire and accuracy and power.

DLT-19 and DLT-20 series are probably among the most used and favoured heavy blaster rifles. They have great power per shot, decent rate of fire, great range, and can also be used as sniper blasters (which is a good indication of their accuracy). I doubt they rank best in every category, but they do seem to be good jack-of-all-trades blaster rifles that are good enough for any given situation and old workhorses that have seen use with literally every faction in the galaxy. Closest real life equivalents are probably old battle rifles like the FN FAL and HK G3 (the latter of which can actually serve as a fairly accurate DMR with the right configuration).
 
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Why do jedi and mandalorians hate each other though?
Mandalorians have an aggressive warrior culture while Jedi are the peacekeepers of the galaxy. They were always going to clash.

I never got why the Jedi didn't jump in during the Mandalorian wars but it seems it's because they predicted the rise of Vitiate's empire or something.
 
Mandalorians have an aggressive warrior culture while Jedi are the peacekeepers of the galaxy. They were always going to clash.

I never got why the Jedi didn't jump in during the Mandalorian wars but it seems it's because they predicted the rise of Vitiate's empire or something.
No, it's because the old jedi just refused to go to war again because they're kinda self righteous pricks. I literally played this game about year ago and that's the most simplified version of the reason why. Revan and Malak are the only ones who saw Vitiate coming and they got corrupted for it.
 
No, it's because the old jedi just refused to go to war again because they're kinda self righteous pricks. I literally played this game about year ago and that's the most simplified version of the reason why. Revan and Malak are the only ones who saw Vitiate coming and they got corrupted for it.
KOTOR is honestly baffling with how much the writers want to point out that the Jedi are wrong for not going into the Mandalorian war when the main antagonists are literally the people who DID go to war.

If you only played the game last year than you missed the part where Bastilla and Carth had a conversation where she told him that the Council had sensed a darkness beyond known space which is why they didn't jump into the conflict, not because the Jedi were "self-righteous pricks".
 
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