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Spider-Man: No Way Home Discussion Thread - WITH SPOILERS

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Funniest scene in the movie for me, period
 
Guess this could always factor into a 8-C rework, since I've seen some complaints about Iron Man 100% scaling to his arc reactors output.
Those complaints were already addressed in prior MCU CRTs, as Spino himself noted, the arc reactors' output refer to gigawatts, AKA gigajoules per second, AKA he'd be generating that amount of energy every second. If this was an over-time feat you'd have a point, but it's not.
 
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The Goblin put a bomb in the box he was holding and Strange didn't react in time and directly took the explosion
didn't he stop it with magic? Or was it the sealed spell he tried to stop?
Electro (Pre-Amp) could be At least High 8-C for one shotting Octavius
I think it's post amp electro, since it's right after he put the reactor. His only pre amp feat is fighting tom holland's spider man, but I can't remember if it was iron spider or not
 
AKA he'd be generating that amount of energy every second. If this was an over-time feat you'd have a point, but it's no
The complaints weren't that he wasn't producing X gigajoules per second but if he could actively funnel the entirety of his arc reactor in every one of his individual attacks, which Iron Man does not do.

His 3 gigajoules reactor powered a suit meant for 8 gigajoules and the only limiting factor was the suites operating time, rather than weaker attacks or the like.
 
So the villians were pulled from their respective universes right before they died right. And Goblin,Tobey's Peter,Doc Ock and Sandman didn't receive any buffs either which means Raimi movies Venom should scale to these feats. Hell Peter even mentions him
 
Has anyone talked about Strange's 2-A range mind manip yet?
Wouldn't it be mind and information manipulation since to make every one truly forget about Peter Parker every single piece of information related to his identity should be either erased or altered. Which should include his Id, every single document related to Mysterio incident, all of the info from the internet, media and all of Peter's personal records and probably many more
 
I think there must be a way to put Andrew deviating from some ray of electro to Sub Relativist thus making the Relativist calculation be consistent 👁️👄👁️
 
For the Astral Plane just because Peter moves fast there doesn't mean he moves that fast all the time. Time is fluid in the Astral Plane, with people having conversations in normal time is a rather consistent factor for the realm.
This actually isn't the case for the scene, it's true that souls in the Astral Plane move and talk fluidly as normal, but Peters body with his soul removed from it was moving on its own at normal speeds even with time slowed down
 
The complaints weren't that he wasn't producing X gigajoules per second but if he could actively funnel the entirety of his arc reactor in every one of his individual attacks, which Iron Man does not do.
He actually can. Check his fight with Stane where he uses his Unibeam to blast Iron Monger. Or when he heats up the vibranium core. His repulsor beams are mini-arc reactors too, which I'm sure Ultron can tank.

EDIT: Oh, I thought you were asking if he could redirect all the power from his arc reactor to his other attacks. In that case, look no further than the combined beam melting feat of Ultron done in unison with Thor, Vision and Iron Man's repulsor blasts.

It wouldn't matter regardless because he can fight on par with people who can tank his Unibeam blasts.

His 3 gigajoules reactor powered a suit meant for 8 gigajoules and the only limiting factor was the suites operating time, rather than weaker attacks or the like.
The suit was prolly consuming power faster than the old Arc Reactor could recharge by self-sustaining.
 
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MCU Spider-man did get his shit beaten out of him by Green Goblin, when Tobey Maguire can fight him just fine, but he later stomped him, so I don't think it matters.
Their first fight doesn’t really matter IMO. MCU Peter specifically didn’t want to go all out there because of his goals, but in the last fight he was fighting seriously and ****** up Norman pretty good

All the Spider-Men are equal and none of them are really “stronger” than the other
 
I think it's post amp electro, since it's right after he put the reactor. His only pre amp feat is fighting tom holland's spider man, but I can't remember if it was iron spider or not
Electro never had any interaction with the Iron Spider

Was it Post Amp Electro that one shotted Ock? If that’s the case we could say “At least 8-C” for Electro (Pre-Amp) and Giant Sandman given the latter is definitely much stronger than Base Raimi Spider-Man and MCU Spider-Man
 
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It wouldn't matter regardless because he can fight on par with people who can tank his Unibeam blasts
Does the unibeam use the reactors full output?

The suit was prolly consuming power faster than the old Arc Reactor could recharge by self-sustaining.
But none of his attacks were weaker, which is the important part. His suit just had a time limit.
 
I don't think age really plays a factor in that unless explicitly stated. It just equates to experience is all. In fact, Ock overpowers Raimi and TASM at the same time pretty easily when he isn't supposed to be older than we've seen him before

Also its Tobey, not Toby
 
Does the unibeam use the reactors full output?
It did in the case of Iron Monger, AFAIK, Tony was asking Jarvis to re-route the power into his Chest RT, and all his other repulsors turned off, so I'd say yes. Here.

But none of his attacks were weaker, which is the important part. His suit just had a time limit.
Most likely means he can focus the RT's power into his other arsenal, which I wouldn't doubt, since he did so against Ultron.
 
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I forgot about that description of the unibeam. Yeah if someone can take it, they likely scale to the full arc reactor.
 
I forgot about that description of the unibeam. Yeah if someone can take it, they likely scale to the full arc reactor.
Iron Monger. Nuff said.

No doubt he'd scale to the Mark 3 Arc Reactor too (The one he stole), since it's literally powering the suit (That and Tony and Rhodey going into a grudge match with each other and ending up being stalemated despite Rhodey using the weaker armor). Plus, Tony himself being able to use the arc reactor's power to enhance his own repulsor blasts, as seen in the 3-way-deadlock of Vision+Thor+Tony against Ultron. This is basically supporting proof for the Arc Reactor's power scaling to their attacks.

Of course, all this goes to shit once you realize Iron Man starts staggering Loki with casual blasts and wildly surpasses the Arc Reactor's yield in Avengers (Something I still personally have some issues with but Loki did groan in pain so...)
 
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I don't think age really plays a factor in that unless explicitly stated. It just equates to experience is all. In fact, Ock overpowers Raimi and TASM at the same time pretty easily when he isn't supposed to be older than we've seen him before

Also its Tobey, not Toby
It's just logical that a more experienced adult male is stronger than a less experienced adolescent male with comparable training.

Either way, it wouldn't be the end of the world if they were stronger.
 
It's just logical that a more experienced adult male is stronger than a less experienced adolescent male with comparable training.

Either way, it wouldn't be the end of the world if they were stronger.
Yeah it wouldn't devastate the scaling chain or anything, but in this case, they're just all equal. We can't really use the whole "experienced adult vs less experienced adolescent" thing either, Radioactive Spiders and other Marvel shenanigans (such as skill levels via opponents they've fought) kinda mess with that formula
 
Also I like how the fact that TASM Peter mentions how his villains aren't really all that "out there" implies that Harry's plan to form a Sinister Six of sorts just kinda fell on it's ass and never went anywhere
 
Yeah it wouldn't devastate the scaling chain or anything, but in this case, they're just all equal. We can't really use the whole "experienced adult vs less experienced adolescent" thing either, Radioactive Spiders and other Marvel shenanigans (such as skill levels via opponents they've fought) kinda mess with that formula
Oh yeah, I wasn't trying to promote a change or anything, I was just... well, expressing a thought is all. They are all equal, which is cool.
 
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