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Can i join to your DiscordWeekly was joking on discord, IIRC. But I could be misremembering.
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Can i join to your DiscordWeekly was joking on discord, IIRC. But I could be misremembering.
Don't worry about it, no offense taken mate.Oh, ok then. Sorry for comparing the two of you.
Him italicizing the bro in order to spite you is good enough for meand is currently insisting on calling me 'bro' despite my repeated explanation of how much I despise that term (primarily due to my gender identity) and repeated polite requests for him to stop.
So, what do you believe is an appropriate course of action here?Him italicizing the bro in order to spite you is good enough for me
Reading through the thread unless she has mentioned to him her gender identity prior I don’t think he knew and the moment she mentioned it to him he switched to “sis” which was still italicized as spite so while a ban is warranted I think perm ban is a bit too muchperma ban
not mentioning the gender does not matter at all when they flat out said "don't call me that".Reading through the thread unless she has mentioned to him her gender identity prior I don’t think he knew and the moment she mentioned it to him he switched to “sis” which was still italicized as spite so while a ban is warranted I think perm ban is a bit too much
It's literally the first line in my about section lolReading through the thread unless she has mentioned to him her gender identity prior I don’t think he knew and the moment she mentioned it to him he switched to “sis” which was still italicized as spite so while a ban is warranted I think perm ban is a bit too much
Then well he deserves whatever he gets I only thought he did not know prior and decided to call you “bro” as I will call anyone “mate” when I plan on getting on their nervesIt's literally the first line in my about section lol
An about section which Mal has read,
Him italicizing the bro in order to spite you is good enough for me
not mentioning the gender does not matter at all when they flat out said "don't call me that".
it magically being an issue because of their identification is irrevelant when they flat out said "don't call me that" and they deliberately disrespected their wishes.
perma ban
Weird that this didn't alert me, even though I'm watching this thread.I second that notion.
That is an absolute lie. You've accused me of "lying", "fabricating evidence", and (deliberately) "misinterpreting everything" in several threads just like that one. If that wasn't "disrespectful", I don't know what is.And I would really prefer if I didn't get accused of being equally guilty like last time, given Mal has picked fights with several other users in the thread as well and I am really just trying to mind my own business and avoid him as best I can.
When I saw @Antvasima telling you this:As KT said, whether or not you were aware of my gender is irrelevant. You were being disrespectful, and you've done this enough that it just so happens to be the last straw.
Also, calling them 'callout posts' is a little disingenuous when we were merely asking you to be more respectful. As was Ant, and yet you continued to be aggressive.
I think we're going way past "asking Malomtek to be more respectful".No bickering please. Laughing at him is rude and unnecessary.
Stop being a hypocrite and cryingjanitorwolf every single time. You've been warned and banned enough times for trying to play the victim
Deflect all you like, but that will not change the fact that people are very quickly starting to grow sick of your behavior.
I'll try my best to continue respecting Ant's wishes about remaining polite and respectful. But I can guarantee, there will be many interactions where I will not act that way towards Mal.
[in response to me saying: "It's nice that you're at least admitting that you will be disrespectful and impolite. I can even respect you a bit for that." in reply to that] Well, yeah. They would/will see me act that way so no point denying it. Like I said previously, I'm not going to act polite/respectful when you certainly will not. I'll try but I'm not gonna snap my neck for it.
I personally think it's a little ridiculous that we can have someone come into a thread, do exactly what is not allowed to be done in CRTs in the first place, blatantly start shit, ignore user's hard work and throw out their points because of personal "logic", make broad grandstanding comments about every other supporter in the thread, continue to insult other users, and then continue to disrespect a single user, when they have a history of causing issues on this wiki and being banned/warned, and it's instead deemed an issue on everyone, instead of the one who's continually provoking users. Continuing to call someone something they requested not to be called, and then having the audacity to italicize it and instead begin italicizing the opposite pronoun when referring to them is absurdly disrespectful and I'm personally amazed this is being passed over. How are we expected to ignore this or "be the better person" when it's so explicitly in front of our face and isn't exactly something we can ignore in a CRT?
A mischaracterization of my post that I already responded to here.The first part was me pointing out how something you claimed happened in the text did not in fact happen, and there was no evidence supporting your claim.
Seems okay then.The second part was because I added a 'lol' to the beginning of one of my responses, which I edited out once Ant mad that post.
It was just two (@KingTempest and @Sir_Ovens), and you have done much "aggression" beforehand. You're not innocent in all or even any of this.I do not want to get involved here any more than I have to, especially how we already have 3 staff in support of a permaban, but I will not let you try to paint me as some kind of aggressor.
Here's one admitting that he won't bother trying very hard to be respectful towards me:
He also kept doing it when being asked not to, italicized it to keep spiting Mokou, and then continued with an italicized "sis" after he was told why it was upsetting Mokou. So Mal was clearly trying to bother Mokou at that point, either way, which is just another example of him continuing his aggressive nature that has gotten him warned and banned in the past.Oh also bro can be used as a "friend" kinda way so (my grammar sucks so correct me if you want)
I don't think I single word I said in my summary was accusatory, as it all simply summed up everything that occurred within the thread and is plainly visible by everyone present in the thread. You entered a CRT without any evidence or scans for your point, were blatantly disrespectful to everyone who disagreed with you, were repeatedly disrespectful to YesMokou despite her requests for you to stop referring to her a specific way (to where you began italicizing the phrase on top of it), and you have a history of being banned and warned, none of what I said was a lie.And something very accusatory just now:
This isn't solely about misused pronouns (which is still very disrespectful regardless and shouldn't be done to any metric), this is about a history of repeated actions and behavior across several threads that Malom has been warned against and continues to do regardless, and was seen yet again within this thread. The misused pronouns at this point is just a final wakeup call/the straw that broke the camel's back.Like seriously??? are people going to take pronouns so far to ban people, if he offends so much that he want someone bans him for not using the rigth pronouns, then is his fault not malo fault (i mean malo was kinda being a asshole but a PERMA ban is exagerated)
I agree that his passive agressive nature could lead to a ban, but the pronnouns stuff shouldnt be taked into, as not everyone is going to follow the pronnouns for different reasonsHe also kept doing it when being asked not to, italicized it to keep spiting Mokou, and then continued with an italicized "sis" after he was told why it was upsetting Mokou. So Mal was clearly trying to bother Mokou at that point, either way, which is just another example of him continuing his aggressive nature that has gotten him warned and banned in the past.
Anyway, I'm leaving this up to staff.
I blatantly completely ignored the entire issue of Fujiwara's gender identity in my paragraph because I didn't even see it until it was pointed out to me.Weird that this didn't alert me, even though I'm watching this thread.
Anyway, I wasn't doing the "bro" thing out of spite against YesMokou's gender identity. Such a thing literally never even crossed my mind during that entire thread. I wasn't being "transphobic". You're all making mountains out of molehills here.
Keep in mind, that the thread had several call-out posts specifically antagonizing me, which I even ranted about at length beforehand. And yet, I didn't make a public rules violation report about any of that. But calling someone "bro" is apparently the last straw? I just don't get it.
This is part of a pattern of behavior that has gone back nearly half a year, resulted in 2 bans, countless warnings, and even more reports; I feel like any and all 'second chances' he could be given have been exhausted at this point.
Yeah i agree with malo
Like seriously??? are people going to take pronouns so far to ban people, if he offends so much that he want someone bans him for not using the rigth pronouns, then is his fault not malo fault (i mean malo was kinda being a asshole but a PERMA ban is exagerated)
I don't necessarily disagree with this, but I also don't think you should be getting too involved in this newest cluster.Oh also bro can be used as a "friend" kinda way so (my grammar sucks so correct me if you want)
The bolded is the really offending part. If you can "guarantee" that there will be interactions wherein you are rude and disrespectful, what else can you really say to "recontextualize" that?Yeah, no. I was gonna stay out of this just to keep things from getting messy. But here is my actual response
"See what I mean? I tried being respectful. I apologized, put everyone to blame, and even stated I'd try being more respectful going forward if you were. Instead, you accused me of riding my "highhorse", and practically tried undermining my words by making it seem as if I'm always against you or a lapdog. We do not agree on a lot, in fact anything, but I rarely ever cast all the blame onto you when something starts up. I already know my words are practically nonexistent to you at this point so, this reply is primarily towards the mods. I did genuinely try, I'll try my best to continue respecting Ant's wishes about remaining polite and respectful. But I can guarantee, there will be many interactions where I will not act that way towards Mal."
In response to a comment you made, after I claimed we were all at fault and we should change. Which Ant himself saw. Even before, I told you I'd be respectful if you were and apologized. And you instead brushed it off and continued the fight. My last response was directly correlating to the fact I will not break my back trying to be polite and respectful when you won't be. (And sorry about the long message, I have no clue how to quote my own bubble).
The "sis" part was in response to a "I'm simply asking you to respect my gender identity" comment from YesMokou, after she brought up her transgenderism in that thread basically out of nowhere. I was respecting her gender identity, I just thought it was ridiculous she was making such a big deal of the entire "bro" thing in the first place. The "italicized sis" was more from me rolling my eyes at that than anything.He also kept doing it when being asked not to, italicized it to keep spiting Mokou, and then continued with an italicized "sis" after he was told why it was upsetting Mokou. So Mal was clearly trying to bother Mokou at that point, either way, which is just another example of him continuing his aggressive nature that has gotten him warned and banned in the past.
Anyway, I'm leaving this up to staff.
You posted it after a mod said such posts would be "done" in that thread, in what I can only describe as an attempt to "poison the well" against me.I don't think I single word I said in my summary was accusatory, as it all simply summed up everything that occurred within the thread and is plainly visible by everyone present in the thread. You entered a CRT without any evidence or scans for your point, were blatantly disrespectful to everyone who disagreed with you, were repeatedly disrespectful to YesMokou despite her requests for you to stop referring to her a specific way (to where you began italicizing the phrase on top of it), and you have a history of being banned and warned, none of what I said was a lie.
Didn't I just post entire links and quotes of FujiwaraYesMokou antagonizing me? If "antagonizing" is such a problem to you, shouldn't you be on YesMokou's case as well.I blatantly completely ignored the entire issue of Fujiwara's gender identity in my paragraph because I didn't even see it until it was pointed out to me.
I tackled the point of you antagonizing them. When they said stop, you doubled down. You didn't question it, you didn't wait, you didn't even relax. Shit you didn't even hesitate. Not even a minute went by and you automatically came back and antagonized em.
And then when they confirmed the issue correlating with their gender identity, you said it didn't even matter. They confirmed the issue, you sidestepped it, they asked for respect semi-calmly, you doubled down and said it ain't matter.
Shit, then you even italicized the sis to emphasize an irrelevant point.
I have a single three-week ban, a rather long topic ban from Touhou threads that I shared with YesMokou, and two official staff warnings on my wall, one of which involved events that had nothing to do with me in particular.The fact that you have a track record in less than half a year of bans and warnings and you show no intent of changing says a lot.
I think you should calm down, sir.**** out my face with that.
The bolded is the really offending part. If you can "guarantee" that there will be interactions wherein you are rude and disrespectful, what else can you really say to "recontextualize" that?
Nobody is out here reporting him for being transphobic, they are reporting him for being an asshole.Like seriously??? are people going to take pronouns so far to ban people, if he offends so much that he want someone bans him for not using the rigth pronouns, then is his fault not malo fault (i mean malo was kinda being a asshole but a PERMA ban is exagerated)
Not a single one of them directly antagonized you, they were stressing their long history of not liking you. That's not an issue. Everybody here does that.Didn't I just post entire links and quotes of FujiwaraYesMokou antagonizing me? If "antagonizing" is such a problem to you, shouldn't you be on YesMokou's case as well.
So you just typed that up with a straight face and didn't think there was anything wrong huh.I have a single three-week ban, a rather long topic ban from Touhou threads that I shared with YesMokou, and two official staff warnings on my wall, one of which involved events that had nothing to do with me in particular.
Not exactly some intensive rap-sheet, considering.
When you've been given a handful of warnings for drastic measures.At bare minimum, I am requesting a thread ban so we can actually get back to revision itself.
And I think you should gain respect for other people here.I think you should calm down, sir.
You literally can't quote a single message in this thread where anybody aside from Mal spoke of transphobia.Then why they say the transphobic stuff??? there is like 5 responds from different people mainly foccusing on that (also i said that if he gets banned, he should get banned by being a asshole, not the transphobic "stuff")
Well, when you put it like that, I realize I was in the wrong on that point. I'm sorry I popped off on you like that. I was just "on edge" regarding you, given how you were posting some pretty aggressive-sounding textwalls against me.Exactly what I just said? The fact I tried/am still trying to be respectful yet you refuse to do the same? If you're going to be rude and disrespectful, do you think I'll always be respectful and polite? No. It is guaranteed. If you refuse to be respectful and continue being rude, I'm obviously not going to be respectful. Again. I told you if you're respectful, I'll also respect you. You brushed it off and continued fighting me. Again, I even apologized and took some blame. Cutting the context doesn't make you innocent.
And accusing someone of every type of thing under the sun isn't "directly antagonizing"?Not a single one of them directly antagonized you, they were stressing their long history of not liking you. That's not an issue. Everybody here does that.
Just now I'm being taken to the RVR for calling someone "bro" when they didn't like it, so I'm going to go off on a limb here and say that the perspectives of this whole situation are quite skewed.Your definition of "antagonizing" is hilariously sensitive. You took somebody to the rvr for calling you salty. You cannot compare anything they did to blatant ignoring of personal issues.
I remember basically telling YesMokou to stop here and her continuing on with this.If you have an issue with people bashing you, request for them to stop, and if they don't stop, then that's an issue. You did not do so, in fact you just went back at them, which is nothing above warning worthy for both of you.
The three-weak ban was a long time ago, I remember @DarkDragonMedeus, @Antvasima, and @Starter_Pack all remarking that I've made an effort to "shape up" since then, I must repeat that the temporary topic ban was shared with FujiwaraYesMokou, and I must repeat again that one of the staff warnings was for shit that didn't even concern me in particular, and the other was for shit that happened nearly half a year ago.So you just typed that up with a straight face and didn't think there was anything wrong huh.
I'm surprised that Fujiwara just requested a thread ban for you.
I don't know what those "drastic measures" might entail, but given that @Starter_Pack said that they would also involve FujiwaraYesMokou...When you've been given a handful of warnings for drastic measures.
Apparently neither of you thought I was being serious when I said this, so fine.Finally, dealing with @FujiwaraYesMokou and @Malomtek. Again. You two have been constantly at each other's throats for the longest time now, and I'm honestly sick of it. As has been told to you multiple times, if you don't like each other, then don't talk to each other. And if you have to talk because of Touhou, then try to remain as neutral as possible. Say your points and address any conflicts against your point of view without bringing in bias either towards the series or your ongoing grudge against each other. This goes especially for you, Malomtek, since you have literally been banned for this before, and while I have noticed an improvement on your end, a compliment to you by the way, you need to get your act straightened out further and stop insinuating violence from others through your passive-aggressive tendencies. I am to the point where if I hear one more petty argument between the two of you, I will issue a temporary block for the both of you. This is not a threat, it is a promise. So get your heccin' acts together please! Okay, done.