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Rule Violation Reports (New forum)
- Thread starter Antvasima
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I have unfortunately had to permanently ban LordTracer, as the automatic sockpuppet finding system reported that the banned troll accounts UranusMeteor (and Dark_Ocean_Of_Asteroids) are controlled by him. This also means that he is Pandimensionalbeing042, who has created quite a lot of sockpuppet accounts to harrass some of our members with slurs and threats, mainly via Fandom, but here as well to a degree.
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Yes, this is very unfortunate, as LordTracer was a longtime well-behaved and productive member of our community, so I understand if other members here are upset, but we do not have any choice for such extreme degrees of rule-breaking via his other accounts.
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Boy, that's a twist
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It is very fortunate. Whatever he did for this community is far outweighed by what he has done against it.
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Shit. I don't know him at all, but that might be such a backstab for those who liked him and found him helpful. God, what a lying dog.
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He told me that he has nothing to do with this accounts and never heard about them. How does this system works?
Well, he said he doesn't even know who they are lmao, so unless he admit he created those accounts, I'll be here to send his messages, so the staff can see them.
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I highly doubt Tracer would create sock puppets tbh. He's a very good, reasonable, and helpful person, and if he happens to have an issue with someone he usually tells it to their face. I've known him for nearly two years at this point, and in all of that time I've seen nothing from him that would suggest such behavior.
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I'd also like to ask whether this "bot" determines this stuff purely based on IP addresses or not? Cause if that's the case, then it's an extremely shaky reasoning tbh. Potentially hundreds of people could share the same IP address through the use of VPNs and whatnot.
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Well, our automatic sockpuppet-finding system is very good, and tells us about what it finds, and it is very unlikely that two people would share the same IP address within a brief period of time in such a small community, but I will ask our system manager about if there could have been an error.
Arcker123
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This, we shouldn’t ban a user for what might be a misunderstanding without at least defending himself.
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Fully agreed. Tracer should at least be given a chance to defend himself.
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I mean, we already know how it's gonna go down. Tracer, irrespective of whether he used socks or not, will say he didn't. But as of right now, there is hard evidence against him. Let's wait for the system administrator for confirmation. There is no need for the back and forth.
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The thing is that the evidence is very clear, and our system has found other accounts of Pan's without any errors, and Pan has proven very good at lying and feigning to be harmless in the past, so I do not know what good it would do.
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I agree that the dude should be able to give a defense to himself, it doesn’t seem very fair to insta perma ban someone without hearing what they have to say first
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As AKM said, there is really no point to it, as we know what he is going to say, but it is his word against hard evidence.
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This is not really a report, but can I get a staff to monitor this so that it doesn't turn into report worthy behavior?
vsbattles.com
Nothing bad has happened but it feels like it's heading down that road. Just need some admin or thread mod just to be there to make sure things don't take a turn for the worst.
DMC - Serious hax downgrade.
Okay, so I left this verse alone for a bit and this happens? The amount of garbage in the profiles are something that don’t make a lot of sense, and I'll start first and foremost with this thread. This thread was made of as recently to get rid of Type 4 Acausality, and the reasons for it being...
Arcker123
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Do you have pictures or something of this evidence?
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Agree we should let the man speak, the Guilty until proven innocent ideal should not be tolerated, we're not a dictatorship.
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I do, but I am not sure whether or not I should show it in public, as it reveals a bit about how our system works to trolls.
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We do have hard evidence, which has so far proven consistently reliable, but let's wait to see what our system manager tells me. Otherwise it is just allowing what is likely Pan to talk his way out of being caught redhanded.
Arcker123
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I understand this, but I don’t think I should just take your word on this, lord tracer has been a continually productive and polite user and should have at least been reported here before he was banned.
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How would somebody use his IP address in conjunction with himself? That would take massive hacking skills.
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We are also not obligated to show and prove every inner working of the system, which might or might not help anyone circumvent it in the future. I'd appreciate this back and forth stops until we have confirmation from the system manager.
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Yes, I am very surprised as well, but as AKM said, we should wait for our system manager to give us further information.
XSOULOFCINDERX
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That's so god damn unfair.
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It Depends. But it would have to mean that the other person must be in a close enough area. for example, I share my IP with tons of people in the area/city and have on occasion been unable to log into my Microsoft account because someone got permabanned on their Xbox.
However, I don't know the Specifics, so i can't argue whether it's a false or accurate. however, based on what I know about Lordtracer and my interactions I don't see a reason for why he would make one.
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Ok, cool, but "We HaVe EvIdEnCe" doesn't work when you conceal the "EvIDeNcE" and instantly perma ban the profile without even letting us find the connection between the two.
People with socks usually share same patterns.
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People can actually do this and it’s very possible trust me
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No, there are certain of our trolls, such as Pan and Mikoto, who have been very good at pretending to be different people over the years.
Also, I am still very wary about revealing details of our security system to everybody, but will ask AKM sama about it.
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