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Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

It depends on the severity of their vandalism.
 
I have unfortunately had to permanently ban LordTracer, as the automatic sockpuppet finding system reported that the banned troll accounts UranusMeteor (and Dark_Ocean_Of_Asteroids) are controlled by him. This also means that he is Pandimensionalbeing042, who has created quite a lot of sockpuppet accounts to harrass some of our members with slurs and threats, mainly via Fandom, but here as well to a degree.
 
Yes, this is very unfortunate, as LordTracer was a longtime well-behaved and productive member of our community, so I understand if other members here are upset, but we do not have any choice for such extreme degrees of rule-breaking via his other accounts.
 
I have unfortunately had to permanently ban LordTracer, as the automatic sockpuppet finding system reported that the banned troll accounts UranusMeteor (and Dark_Ocean_Of_Asteroids) are controlled by him. This also means that he is Pandimensionalbeing042, who has created quite a lot of sockpuppet accounts to harrass some of our members with slurs and threats, mainly via Fandom, but here as well to a degree.
Boy, that's a twist
 
That is, a bummer.

But I'm unsure if I read this properly, you saying he is Pandimensional? I know this might sound redundant but can you elaborate on that?
 
I have unfortunately had to permanently ban LordTracer, as the automatic sockpuppet finding system reported that the banned troll accounts UranusMeteor (and Dark_Ocean_Of_Asteroids) are controlled by him. This also means that he is Pandimensionalbeing042, who has created quite a lot of sockpuppet accounts to harrass some of our members with slurs and threats, mainly via Fandom, but here as well to a degree.
Shit. I don't know him at all, but that might be such a backstab for those who liked him and found him helpful. God, what a lying dog.
 
I have unfortunately had to permanently ban LordTracer, as the automatic sockpuppet finding system reported that the banned troll accounts UranusMeteor (and Dark_Ocean_Of_Asteroids) are controlled by him. This also means that he is Pandimensionalbeing042, who has created quite a lot of sockpuppet accounts to harrass some of our members with slurs and threats, mainly via Fandom, but here as well to a degree.
He told me that he has nothing to do with this accounts and never heard about them. How does this system works?
but that might be such a backstab for those who liked him and found him helpful.
Well, he said he doesn't even know who they are lmao, so unless he admit he created those accounts, I'll be here to send his messages, so the staff can see them.
 
He told me that he has nothing to do with this accounts and never heard about them.
Isn't that what everybody would say in this situation. But we have also asked fandom for confirmation, so let's wait for that, it's better to double-check in this case.
 
I highly doubt Tracer would create sock puppets tbh. He's a very good, reasonable, and helpful person, and if he happens to have an issue with someone he usually tells it to their face. I've known him for nearly two years at this point, and in all of that time I've seen nothing from him that would suggest such behavior.
 
I'd also like to ask whether this "bot" determines this stuff purely based on IP addresses or not? Cause if that's the case, then it's an extremely shaky reasoning tbh. Potentially hundreds of people could share the same IP address through the use of VPNs and whatnot.
 
Well, our automatic sockpuppet-finding system is very good, and tells us about what it finds, and it is very unlikely that two people would share the same IP address within a brief period of time in such a small community, but I will ask our system manager about if there could have been an error.
 
I mean, we already know how it's gonna go down. Tracer, irrespective of whether he used socks or not, will say he didn't. But as of right now, there is hard evidence against him. Let's wait for the system administrator for confirmation. There is no need for the back and forth.
 
The thing is that the evidence is very clear, and our system has found other accounts of Pan's without any errors, and Pan has proven very good at lying and feigning to be harmless in the past, so I do not know what good it would do.
 
I mean, we already know how it's gonna go down. Tracer, irrespective of whether he used socks or not, will say he didn't. But as of right now, there is hard evidence against him. Let's wait for the system administrator for confirmation. There is no need for the back and forth.
As AKM said, there is really no point to it, as we know what he is going to say, but it is his word against hard evidence.
 
This is not really a report, but can I get a staff to monitor this so that it doesn't turn into report worthy behavior?
Nothing bad has happened but it feels like it's heading down that road. Just need some admin or thread mod just to be there to make sure things don't take a turn for the worst.
 
Is somebody else in our staff willing to help out with Earl's request please? I unfortunately have to do my daily wiki edit-patrolling duties now.
 
Agree we should let the man speak, the Guilty until proven innocent ideal should not be tolerated, we're not a dictatorship.
We do have hard evidence, which has so far proven consistently reliable, but let's wait to see what our system manager tells me. Otherwise it is just allowing what is likely Pan to talk his way out of being caught redhanded.
 
Imagine that he was actually set up by someone else or was hacked and we just permaban him without even talking to him first
 
I do, but I am not sure whether or not I should show it in public, as it reveals a bit about how our system works to trolls.
I understand this, but I don’t think I should just take your word on this, lord tracer has been a continually productive and polite user and should have at least been reported here before he was banned.
 
Imagine that he was actually set up by someone else or was hacked and we just permaban him without even talking to him first
How would somebody use his IP address in conjunction with himself? That would take massive hacking skills.
 
I do, but I am not sure whether or not I should show it in public, as it reveals a bit about how our system works to trolls.
We are also not obligated to show and prove every inner working of the system, which might or might not help anyone circumvent it in the future. I'd appreciate this back and forth stops until we have confirmation from the system manager.
 
I understand this, but I don’t think I should just take your word on this, lord tracer has been a continually productive and polite user and should have at least been reported here before he was banned.
Yes, I am very surprised as well, but as AKM said, we should wait for our system manager to give us further information.
 
How would somebody use his IP address in conjunction with himself? That would take massive hacking skills.
It Depends. But it would have to mean that the other person must be in a close enough area. for example, I share my IP with tons of people in the area/city and have on occasion been unable to log into my Microsoft account because someone got permabanned on their Xbox.

However, I don't know the Specifics, so i can't argue whether it's a false or accurate. however, based on what I know about Lordtracer and my interactions I don't see a reason for why he would make one.
 
Look, again, we have actual concrete evidence. There isn't much else that we can reasonably do at the moment. I am very uncomfortable with this as well.
 
Look, again, we have actual concrete evidence. There isn't much else that we can reasonably do at the moment. I am very uncomfortable with this as well.
Ok, cool, but "We HaVe EvIdEnCe" doesn't work when you conceal the "EvIDeNcE" and instantly perma ban the profile without even letting us find the connection between the two.
People with socks usually share same patterns.
 
Well, they would also have to find out his current IP address first for that.
 
Ok, cool, but "We HaVe EvIdEnCe" doesn't work when you conceal the "EvIDeNcE" and instantly perma ban the profile without even letting us find the connection between the two.
People with socks usually share same patterns.
No, there are certain of our trolls, such as Pan and Mikoto, who have been very good at pretending to be different people over the years.

Also, I am still very wary about revealing details of our security system to everybody, but will ask AKM sama about it.
 
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