Remove all forms of flight from Yang Xiao Long's profile

[ElixirBlue]

I'm not saying she can't double jump, But I don't see enough evidence for pseudo-flight.

 

[The_Impress]

Why is this thread about giving an irrelevant character from an irrelevant verse an irrelevant ability such a big deal

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

that's not what happened. she isn't jumping in mid-air indefinitely, she projects herself forward considerably with a single "jump". nor do jumps tend to be straight forward.
I don't see why this is such a big deal, if I'm honest. it's flight of all things. for some RWBY character. why does it matter what we classify it as when functionally it will do the same thing?

I mean, majority of the thread was weekly arguing that she can't do it mid-air, and this whole thread came from the fact that he thought a match was a stomp because she can't reach a flying enemy (even tough she could easily win even without being able to fly).

 

[MilesTheMorales1]

Why is this thread about giving an irrelevant character from an irrelevant verse an irrelevant ability such a big deal

Read Ricsi's message above, said it better than I could've

 

[ElixirBlue]

Cause as far as I have issues with how people are Interpreting Volume 1, I have yet to see a scan of her propelling herself up continuously upward.

 

[MrKerf]

Pseudo-Flight is basicly when you moving in air for some time without the help from solid objects, correct?

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Being able to one shot an opponent from rangebisnt a win condition if the opponent has ways of not getting one shot. ƒÖéƒÖéƒÖé

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Pseudo-Flight is basicly when you moving in air for some time without the help from solid objects, correct?

Yeah.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Cause as far as I have issues with how people are Interpreting Volume 1, I have yet to see a scan of her propelling herself up continuously upward.

You don't need to go continously upwards.

You just need to be able to move mid-air (or void in some cases) without touching the ground.

And there were scans given of her propelling herself upwards.

 

[MilesTheMorales1]

Being able to one shot an opponent from rangebisnt a win condition if the opponent has ways of not getting one shot. ƒÖéƒÖéƒÖé

Hey, that's for the other CRT. ƒÖéƒÖéƒÖé

 

[ElixirBlue]

Pseudo-Flight is basicly when you moving in air for some time without the help from solid objects, correct?

Yeah, Also looking back at the thread, Weekly made several Points that were ignored.

 

[MrKerf]

Then it is a pseudo-flight by all means.

Hell, pseudo-flight utself is just many "double jumps". Don't see any problems here.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Yeah, Also looking back at the thread, Weekly made several Points that were ignored.

Feel free to quote them.

 

[MilesTheMorales1]

If Ember Celia allows its user to jump midair just from one shot, then there is absolutely nothing stopping Yang from jumping upwards continuously until she runs out of ammo.

I want someone to show me a time where she failed to perform a jump mid-air.

 

[ElixirBlue]

And there were scans given of her propelling herself upwards.

Can you re-post those scans? Because in my attempt to look for them, I found several points made by Weekly that were ignored.

 

[MilesTheMorales1]

Feel free to quote them.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

okay so the thread has seemingly proven that yang can do it mid-air, right? is that the point, then? or am I missing some vital context?

 

[MilesTheMorales1]

okay so the thread has seemingly proven that yang can do it mid-air, right? is that the point, then? or am I missing some vital context?

Yes, without a doubt it's been proven. Anyone who can glance at the evidence we provided can see this fact given they're not in denial.

Since this was the point of the thread, I'm not sure what further purpose there is for this thread moving forward. Should we close it and keep Pseudo-Flight on Yang's profile?

 

[MrKerf]

Wait. Perhaps Weekly will come back with more arguments.

 

[ElixirBlue]

@miles Given that volume 1 was full of animation errors the second explanation is genuinely more credible

Except you see the leaves shoot up from the trees shes jumping off of

And she was never able to show her volume 1 self again.

 

[MilesTheMorales1]

Wait. Perhaps Weekly will come back with more arguments.

Actually, yes, I need him to come back with why he threatened to report me. The we can come to a proper conclusion.

 

[MilesTheMorales1]

@miles Given that volume 1 was full of animation errors the second explanation is genuinely more credible

Except you see the leaves shoot up from the trees shes jumping off of

And she was never able to show her volume 1 self again.

He never provided proof of the leaves shot up from the tree, which arguably is an irrelevant point either way.

 

[MilesTheMorales1]

Also, can you prove that her EC was nerfed after season 1? To the point where she can no longer propulse herself upwards?

 

[ElixirBlue]

The fact that the creators even admit Volume 1 Was full of animation errors? Are you going to ignore that part?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

So, to be clear, the argument is currently whether we classify this as...

- Pseudo-Flight

- Acrobatics in such a way that it states it grants the user Pseudo-Flight

This seems a mite bit redundant of a debate, then, no? Even under the definition of Acrobatics this qualifies as Pseudo-Flight.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

So, to be clear, the argument is currently whether we classify this as...
- Pseudo-Flight

- Acrobatics in such a way that it states it grants the user Pseudo-Flight

This seems a mite bit redundant of a debate, then, no? Even under the definition of Acrobatics this qualifies as Pseudo-Flight.

No.

People are arguing that Yang is plain unable to propel herself mid air and that she needs to punch trees, or something solid, to do it.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

The fact that the creators even admit Volume 1 Was full of animation errors? Are you going to ignore that part?

That was answered several times...

>Animation error

In several shots she is way above the trees, several meters, and she punches backwards, an explosion happens and she is propelled forward. There is nothing non-sensical with that. Even in the yellow trailer, she uses her punches to propel herself towrads others. She also does this blatantly in season 3 after using her semblance.

So, why would it be an error? It doesn't contradict anything, and "gaunlet shots propel Yang" has both precedent and follow up.

>Tree leaves effects

Happens for one of the explosions, and never happens in any of the shots where she is blatantly outside the trees' range.

 

[ElixirBlue]

Except you see the leaves shoot up from the trees shes jumping off of

And she was never able to show her volume 1 self again.

Monty thought it was Necessary to animate leaves after she blasted off.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

>Tree leaves effects

Happens for one of the explosions, and never happens in any of the shots where she is blatantly outside the trees' range.

 

[ElixirBlue]

>Tree leaves effects

Happens for one of the explosions, and never happens in any of the shots where she is blatantly outside the trees' range.

I think you have to watch the video again, because I just Presented it two times.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I think you have to watch the video again, because I just Presented it two times.

Both of those were for the same explosion tough, no?

And my point remains, the same animation did not appear in the shots where she is blatantly above the trees, none of which are your scans.

 

[ElixirBlue]

Both of those were for the same explosion tough, no?

And my point remains, the same animation did not appear in the shots where she is blatantly above the trees, none of which are your scans.

What, do you mean the first time we cut to her and we already see explosions behind her but we don't know when she shot them off?

 

[MilesTheMorales1]

How about the simpler explanation where she blasted herself in the air, but was in close enough range of some trees for leaves to blow off?

This is simply a case of style over substance either way.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

@Ricsi I'm aware, but in terms of profiles and abilities, Elixir here defined that as double jumping on the acrobatics page. Which states it can effectively be pseudo-flight. So either way pseudo-flight exists, regardless of animation ****-ups.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

What, do you mean the first time we cut to her and we already see explosions behind her but we don't know when she shot them off?

So, looked at the clip again... you are taking it out of context, eh?

First explosion, not much on screen for her surrounding, but no leaves.

The second explosion happens at 1:01. It also goes out of view in the same second. The leaves apear a whole second after as she flies close to a tree after being propelled.

That doesn't prove she hit a tree with the explosion, which is visibly false. It just proves that she was fast enough to make some leaves fall of a tree she flied near, with no explosions being involved with the trees

Same for the third explosion. She propels herself upwards, and blatantly passes a tree, that realeases leaves after she passes there, with her explosion elixting no special effects.

Fourth explosion shows her hitting air. As there is no tree nearby, no leaves either.

Fifth explosion, hits nothing, still no leaves.

Sixth explosion, points behing where she already passed (so literally impossible for a tree to be there), no leaves.

 

[ElixirBlue]

How about the simpler explanation where she blasted herself in the air, but was in close enough range of some trees for leaves to blow off?

This is simply a case of style over substance either way.

We will never know the difference. But the fact is I would like to see her being able to do that far away from objects.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

@Ricsi I'm aware, but in terms of profiles and abilities, Elixir here defined that as double jumping on the acrobatics page. Which states it can effectively be pseudo-flight. So either way pseudo-flight exists, regardless of animation ****-ups.

Sure, but as I said, Weekly has being going on about Yang losing because her enemy can fly hundreds of meters away (despite him only having tens of meters of range) and being untouchable, after which he requested for a crt to be made for pseudo-flight to be removed.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

We will never know the difference. But the fact is I would like to see her being able to do that far away from objects.

Yellow trailer, she propels herself by punching behind her back. There is no wall or person there, yet she gets propelles.

Third and fourth explosions.

Season 3 fight with flint, she propels herself mid air twice in the fight to move through his sound.

 

[ElixirBlue]

> First explosion, not much on screen for her surrounding, but no leaves.

You can't even count the 1st explosion as evidence. Sure, we don't see explosion trails when Ren looks up at her but we don't hear the sound her explosions make when they go off every other time.

The camera angle also prevents us from seeing behind her.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

which is incorrect, seemingly by admission of both sides of the active debate here. if we call it pseudo-flight, epic, thread done, if we define it as that specific vein of acrobatics, cool, pseudo-flight anyways. I guess I'm mostly just trying to say that I don't see the point.