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You saying it's not a crossover over and over doesn't make it true. The games are literally classified as such.
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Removal of Wario/DK's Keys
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I know I’m l8 but what about mario vs dk
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I mean, this is like saying that Rabbids aren't canon to Rayman only because they became their own franchise later on. Canons don't work like that, if both started as the same verse, and there's plenty of consistency to it, yeah, they should just scale, they even have a better scaling situation than Waluigi overall.
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Obviously my stance is that we remove the keys and that anyone who has reason to scale (basically not Lanky and Tiny) should scale.
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My stance is still that keys should be kept. Only characters who have interacted in crossovers should scale.
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Shouldn’t we wait for staff to give their approval before editing the pages?
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Wario and DK's profiles will need to be unlocked then.
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The Donkey Kong Series page should be removed and merged with the Mario Bros verse page.
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Yeah, not sure why it was separated... the Mario Bros page says 7 Star Children, I only see 6.
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I don't disagree with scaling I disagree with removing keys.
Dino disagreed as well.
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Dino disagreed only because he didn't know what to scale the DK exclusive characters, not because of your reasons
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I 100% agree with removing the keys.
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Bumpiddy
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If possible I'd also like to hear Ryu's thoughts since he's a Mario Supporter.
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Bump
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Still need a mod to unlock Wario and DK's page. Everyone else (Diddy, K. Rool, Shake King, etc) is unlocked so those will be scaled to their respected characters. Still keep in mind characters like Lanky, Tiny, or others from the WarioWare series will not be scaled.
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I am still in opposition obviously.
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Ok, but you're pretty much against everybody else.
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I'm still not sure about this tbh since there's the issue about other Kongs scaling problems.
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I've listed a scaling that works and doesn't contradict the games. If you'd wish, I can bring it up again.
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It's undoubtedly uncontroversial for Donkey Kong to scale from the main Mario cast, and one could argue for some more prominent DK crew members such as Diddy Kong to be considered in their leagues. People like Tiny Kong and Lanky Kong would also be in their leagues as they're comparable Diddy and Dixie. And I know Kiddy is as strong as DK with Chunky being even stronger as far as DKC is concerned.
DKC is definitely the same verse as the Mario Bros, but the feats often shown are lacking despite a lot of characters being seen as almost as strong as DK. Obviously, I'd like to see the keys get merged, but it's just often too difficult to convince; can't really force other staff members. So it seems safest to have DK keep his Donkey Kong | Mario Bros keys.
DKC is definitely the same verse as the Mario Bros, but the feats often shown are lacking despite a lot of characters being seen as almost as strong as DK. Obviously, I'd like to see the keys get merged, but it's just often too difficult to convince; can't really force other staff members. So it seems safest to have DK keep his Donkey Kong | Mario Bros keys.
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But several of them including a few spin offs do; Yoshi games, Mario 64, Galaxy games, the RPGs, ect all have some Tier 4 feats. Wario even have one Tier 2 feat, but none of the DKC games have tier 4 feats and it has several Tier 6 feats.
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Mmm... I guess they could just go like "At least 6-B, likely 4-A".
Separating the keys as if the 4-A end is "composite-only" isn't really applicable when they aren't composites in the first place (Plus they aren't allowed anymore), so at worst they should be merged like above.
BTW, the site update made Mario's gallery on his profile look awful, it needs some reformatting.
Separating the keys as if the 4-A end is "composite-only" isn't really applicable when they aren't composites in the first place (Plus they aren't allowed anymore), so at worst they should be merged like above.
BTW, the site update made Mario's gallery on his profile look awful, it needs some reformatting.
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The scale isn't good. It's still relying solely on crossovers being applied back to everyone back.
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