Re Zero Discussion Thread: Season 3 is Real

[VortechsTG]

Whats up with the rz verse nowadays
All we had were island calcs for the god tiers for a while and now literal mid-high tiers are starting to reach it

They have always obviously been that strong. We just didn't have proper feats to use. Back in ******* arc 4 Garfiel had a statement about being able to shatter a mountainside and the wagpig one about disintegrating a boulder with just its yell. Don't even get me started on how obviously downplayed the Flugel tree's size is because of how inconsistently it is portrayed.

 

[Zabazab]

Omg rare Vortechs appearance hiii

 

[VortechsTG]

Hi

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Heyo vortech

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

They have always obviously been that strong. We just didn't have proper feats to use. Back in ******* arc 4 Garfiel had a statement about being able to shatter a mountainside and the wagpig one about disintegrating a boulder with just its yell. Don't even get me started on how obviously downplayed the Flugel tree's size is because of how inconsistently it is portrayed.

Can you pls make Subaru reach tier 9

 

[Zabazab]

Can you pls make Subaru reach tier 9

Just cope with the knowledge that Rem's flail going really fast is like 9-B

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

Just cope with the knowledge that Rem's flail going really fast is like 9-B

I will make that 9-B Subaru calc... one day. I know I already done the pixel-scaling, but don't remember where I placed it in my folders - so once I stop being lazy, I'll make the calc.

 

[Zabazab]

Once this Top Tier upgrade is finally concluded, next order of business is probably making the strong swordsmen 7-A+ and the strong magicians 6-C?

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Once this Top Tier upgrade is finally concluded, next order of business is probably making the strong swordsmen 7-A+ and the strong magicians 6-C?

Hopefully yeah
Wait no that puts Subaru at least priority

 

[Fezzih_007]

[Re:Zero] CRT some missed out abilities and equipments

Hi There, this CRT is about some missed out stuff from the anime, novel, and the side stories, hopefully this won't get messy Roswaal L Mathers Resistance to Power Nullification and Poison Manipulation we can see here that Roswaal was able to use magic in an environment where he shouldn't be...

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[ChoursDropoff]

Is this a general discussion thread? If so I’ll leave this here.

 

[Pepsiman25th]

I was gone for a long time with Rezero. What I miss?

 

[Zabazab]

Just a couple things.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

I was gone for a long time with Rezero. What I miss?

Reinhard is destroying moons now, fought with Volcanica and almost decapitated him, Subaru finally has sex with EMT, Hoshin reveal, Aldebaran is actually a matrix character, Observers are tier 1, The mid tiers are stronger than the old Reinhard calc, Rein(makes me)hard has "alone time" with Felt

So yeah, not much honestly
Edit: coke is better

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

what do you guys think about this?
Reactive Power Level (After a certain amounts of deaths, Subaru grows slightly stronger in order to overcome what killed him. An example in Arc 1, where he was able to keep up and parry the attacks of an extremely casual Elsa after dying to her 3 times. Another example is him growing stronger in Arc 2 to the point of harming the Wolgram King, despite being killed twice by said creature, as well as being able to hit the horn of rem so hard to snap her out of her bloodlusted state, despite being killed twice by said person. Another example is in Arc 3, where Subaru was able to send Petelgeuse staggering with a single punch, despite being harmed by him twice in his failed loops. Another example is in Arc 4, where he was able to compete against garfiel, who used him as a ragdoll in the past failed loops of said Arc, as well as kick a few of the great Rabbit so hard to the point that said Mabeast exploded, despite being killed twice by said Mabeast in the most possible brutal way. Another example is in Arc 5, where after being killed by Sirius 3 times, he was able to contend against Capella and even harmed her. Another example in Arc 6, where Subaru was able to contend against lye Batenkaitos after being killed several times by him, as well as becoming fast enough to the point of being able to dodge the light beams fired by Shaula)

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

i love this
Supersonic movement speed (Faster than before. Dodged a magic blast fired by Mimi.), Immeasurable combat and reaction speed (Subaru could dodge and punch Petelgeuse so hard that his head bounced back) |

 

[Zabazab]

what do you guys think about this?
Reactive Power Level (After a certain amounts of deaths, Subaru grows slightly stronger in order to overcome what killed him. An example in Arc 1, where he was able to keep up and parry the attacks of an extremely casual Elsa after dying to her 3 times. Another example is him growing stronger in Arc 2 to the point of harming the Wolgram King, despite being killed twice by said creature, as well as being able to hit the horn of rem so hard to snap her out of her bloodlusted state, despite being killed twice by said person. Another example is in Arc 3, where Subaru was able to send Petelgeuse staggering with a single punch, despite being harmed by him twice in his failed loops. Another example is in Arc 4, where he was able to compete against garfiel, who used him as a ragdoll in the past failed loops of said Arc, as well as kick a few of the great Rabbit so hard to the point that said Mabeast exploded, despite being killed twice by said Mabeast in the most possible brutal way. Another example is in Arc 5, where after being killed by Sirius 3 times, he was able to contend against Capella and even harmed her. Another example in Arc 6, where Subaru was able to contend against lye Batenkaitos after being killed several times by him, as well as becoming fast enough to the point of being able to dodge the light beams fired by Shaula)

hahahahahahahahahahahahahh

 

[Fezzih_007]

what do you guys think about this?
Reactive Power Level (After a certain amounts of deaths, Subaru grows slightly stronger in order to overcome what killed him. An example in Arc 1, where he was able to keep up and parry the attacks of an extremely casual Elsa after dying to her 3 times. Another example is him growing stronger in Arc 2 to the point of harming the Wolgram King, despite being killed twice by said creature, as well as being able to hit the horn of rem so hard to snap her out of her bloodlusted state, despite being killed twice by said person. Another example is in Arc 3, where Subaru was able to send Petelgeuse staggering with a single punch, despite being harmed by him twice in his failed loops. Another example is in Arc 4, where he was able to compete against garfiel, who used him as a ragdoll in the past failed loops of said Arc, as well as kick a few of the great Rabbit so hard to the point that said Mabeast exploded, despite being killed twice by said Mabeast in the most possible brutal way. Another example is in Arc 5, where after being killed by Sirius 3 times, he was able to contend against Capella and even harmed her. Another example in Arc 6, where Subaru was able to contend against lye Batenkaitos after being killed several times by him, as well as becoming fast enough to the point of being able to dodge the light beams fired by Shaula)

That looks like me arguing in the Goku vs Echidna thread.

 

[TheHeavenlySword]

what do you guys think about this?
Reactive Power Level (After a certain amounts of deaths, Subaru grows slightly stronger in order to overcome what killed him. An example in Arc 1, where he was able to keep up and parry the attacks of an extremely casual Elsa after dying to her 3 times. Another example is him growing stronger in Arc 2 to the point of harming the Wolgram King, despite being killed twice by said creature, as well as being able to hit the horn of rem so hard to snap her out of her bloodlusted state, despite being killed twice by said person. Another example is in Arc 3, where Subaru was able to send Petelgeuse staggering with a single punch, despite being harmed by him twice in his failed loops. Another example is in Arc 4, where he was able to compete against garfiel, who used him as a ragdoll in the past failed loops of said Arc, as well as kick a few of the great Rabbit so hard to the point that said Mabeast exploded, despite being killed twice by said Mabeast in the most possible brutal way. Another example is in Arc 5, where after being killed by Sirius 3 times, he was able to contend against Capella and even harmed her. Another example in Arc 6, where Subaru was able to contend against lye Batenkaitos after being killed several times by him, as well as becoming fast enough to the point of being able to dodge the light beams fired by Shaula)

I honestly want to see this hole thing being added to Subaru's abilities, just to explain one

 

[TheHeavenlySword]

@Zabazab

About Reinhard changing night and day feat
Can't we just take it literally like how the Novel described it?

the author even bothered himself and added "nighttime sky" in the light novel which didn't exist in the web novel, just to make sure that people would take the general picture

Reinhard does not have any reality warping or time manipulation to explain what he did so it's a simple destruction and recreation, which only give us two options to take as a low end

Option 1: Reinhard destroyed the planet and recreated it upside down to face the sun which is unlikely do to this reasons

• it does not sound like what the author was implying
• if he flipped the world on itself then Reinhard would be on the back of the world
• if he flipped the world on himself then that would change the position of the world with the moon which is an unnecessary action, and he would need to do a backflip to land he's feets

Option 2: Reinhard destruction have at least reached the Sun, which does make sense, we can use the distance between the earth surface and the other side of the sun as a radius for the calculations

 

[ChoursDropoff]

what do you guys think about this?
Reactive Power Level (After a certain amounts of deaths, Subaru grows slightly stronger in order to overcome what killed him. An example in Arc 1, where he was able to keep up and parry the attacks of an extremely casual Elsa after dying to her 3 times. Another example is him growing stronger in Arc 2 to the point of harming the Wolgram King, despite being killed twice by said creature, as well as being able to hit the horn of rem so hard to snap her out of her bloodlusted state, despite being killed twice by said person. Another example is in Arc 3, where Subaru was able to send Petelgeuse staggering with a single punch, despite being harmed by him twice in his failed loops. Another example is in Arc 4, where he was able to compete against garfiel, who used him as a ragdoll in the past failed loops of said Arc, as well as kick a few of the great Rabbit so hard to the point that said Mabeast exploded, despite being killed twice by said Mabeast in the most possible brutal way. Another example is in Arc 5, where after being killed by Sirius 3 times, he was able to contend against Capella and even harmed her. Another example in Arc 6, where Subaru was able to contend against lye Batenkaitos after being killed several times by him, as well as becoming fast enough to the point of being able to dodge the light beams fired by Shaula)

If he did get this it wouldn’t be very strong honestly he’s still pretty weak all things considered.

 

[ChoursDropoff]

@Zabazab

About Reinhard changing night and day feat
Can't we just take it literally like how the Novel described it?

the author even bothered himself and added "nighttime sky" in the light novel which didn't exist in the web novel, just to make sure that people would take the general picture

Reinhard does not have any reality warping or time manipulation to explain what he did so it's a simple destruction and recreation, which only give us two options to take as a low end

Option 1: Reinhard destroyed the planet and recreated it upside down to face the sun which is unlikely do to this reasons

• it does not sound like what the author was implying
• if he flipped the world on itself then Reinhard would be on the back of the world
• if he flipped the world on himself then that would change the position of the world with the moon which is an unnecessary action, and he would need to do a backflip to land he's feets

Option 2: Reinhard destruction have at least reached the Sun, which does make sense, we can use the distance between the earth surface and the other side of the sun as a radius for the calculations

Or maybe he pushed the clouds out the way.

 

[TheHeavenlySword]

Or maybe he pushed the clouds out the way.

Nuh-uh

 

[SeijiSetto]

i think a simpler explanation for it suddenly becoming daytime is that Reinhard Just Did That 'Cuz He's That Guy rather than him destroying the sun or whatever

 

[TheHeavenlySword]

i think a simpler explanation for it suddenly becoming daytime is that Reinhard Just Did That 'Cuz He's That Guy rather than him destroying the sun or whatever

that does not explain anything, destroying the sun is just a safe low end, it should have been much more then that

 

[Phoenks]

I am guessing it was part of his restoration, if anything.

 

[Zabazab]

It's Strange, but we really can't call it anything like reconstructing the sun, big claims need big evidence and we just don't have enough.

We'll probably get feats & explanations in the final arcs when god tiers limits are explored. If I had to index it right now, I'd probably file it under reality warping.

 

[TheHeavenlySword]

the novel only described it as destruction and recreation, there is no reality warping like Pandora's authority, and if Reinhard have it, then he would have just brought Subaru and Emilia back

 

[TheHeavenlySword]

im pretty sure that i give evidence from the Novel, Anime, and If Stories

 

[Zabazab]

Reality warping is actually an incredibly limited ability, it can only do what it has feats of doing.

 

[TheHeavenlySword]

Reality warping is actually an incredibly limited ability, it can only do what it has feats of doing.

but that is still just stretching it, when it should have been taken literally, if it was proven otherwise then we can just take the feat out

 

[SeijiSetto]

that does not explain anything, destroying the sun is just a safe low end, it should have been much more then that

it went from night time to daytime.
destroying the sun does not make it day time.

 

[Phoenks]

The whole idea is that Reinhard restores the world after its been destroyed. So it makes sense that "restoring" a stormy night would make it into a sunny, bright day.

 

[TheHeavenlySword]

it went from night time to daytime.
destroying the sun does not make it day time.

the dragon sword recreated it in a different location

 

[SeijiSetto]

the dragon sword recreated it in a different location

in situations like this, the less contrived answer is usually the more correct one - the core of occam's razor, i believe.

you're suggesting "uh actually reinhard's world-splitting slash deleted the sun and recreated it in a different place so that when he restored the world its rays shone through the hole in the clouds"
vs
"in restoring the world, it became daytime. either as part of the restoration or just vague, minor reality warping."

 

[VortechsTG]

"in restoring the world, it became daytime. either as part of the restoration or just vague, minor reality warping."

Saying that it "became daytime" doesn't actually explain what happened though. I agree it's a huge stretch to assume he recreated the sun but he must have at least moved it.

 

[Zabazab]

MLP moment. We do at least know that the Re:Zero world functions on Ptolemaic Theory.

 

[Phoenks]

It's just restoration. He restored the environment to a prior state.

Just has like interplanetary range or something/

 

[VortechsTG]

MLP moment. We do at least know that the Re:Zero world functions on Ptolemaic Theory.

How do we know that? I may have just forgot.

 

[VortechsTG]

It's just restoration. He restored the environment to a prior state.

Just has like interplanetary range or something/

Right, so it was moved. I'm not saying it is an ap feat or anything.