Hinata vs Reinhard (again???)

[Berga14]

Isn't Hinata's hax 5-D in this key

Yeah, her magics as well.
This fight is just Reinhard that trys to evade Hinata attacks until he gets onetapped

 

[Lycoris4812]

thats her saint key, here she is just a human in transition to become a saint

But everything in the verse is made of type 2 info. You don't need to be a spiritual lifeform to be made of type 2 info.

 

[Mizuki67]

But everything in the verse is made of type 2 info. You don't need to be a spiritual lifeform to be made of type 2 info.

Not understanding this argument. Anyways like Dark mentioned Reinhard cannot resist Power Absorption. The question remains wether she can steal Reinhard technique or not

 

[Mizuki67]

1) 5D Law Manipulation in Tensura can also refer to stuff like the manipulation of the laws of physics so she can make Reinhard attacks not work properly if she wanted to and Reinhard is not able to cancel or defend all of her attacks because he cannot affect Law in Tensura and we all know Law = Magic in Tensura.

2)Hinata can just coat her self with magic and she would be invulnerable to any physical attacks and Reinhard would not be able to get close to her so, no matter what Reinhard do he will be hit by the affects of magic just like Treyni and Ranga casting a barrier to protect themselves and hurt their opponents at the same time. She has the ability to make full use of those elemental spirits after all and borrow its power and I have already previously mentioned this before that she also has Legend Grade Armour which is literally made out of pure magicules and Reinhard cannot affect or hurt her.

3) we all know a cautious Hinata with prep time is able to set up a Holy Field that can make anything not work and it can also manipulate stuff like making the laws of physics not work because they mostly have the same properties as the Anti Magic Area . Which again Rimuru was shown to resist this and are not affected by it which allows him to use magic and fight freely and Holy Field can literally work on 1 layer anyways. Do note that we are comparing hax potency here not a debate wether it could only work on monsters or not and Holy Magic in Tensura also work on people who are not monsters eventhough they are said to only work on monsters. Just like Yuuki touching the Holy Coffin and he felt burnt when he touch it because it is filled with pure Holy energy. We also have Anti Magic Area that works on anyone even magicians or monsters

The only way you are gonna win this is in a situation where Reinhard catches her off guard and use FTL combat speed to assassinate her before she can react but this would be an unfair match because huge gap on the speed difference and it is a stomp. In other words I don't think it can even be added to profiles

I am voting for hinata anyways. I do not see how Reinhard would win since mostly anyone in Tensura can be a smurf. I am not gonna continue to argue anymore since I have made my stance clear.

 

[GhostBlade07]

If I'am not mistaken most of Hinata hax is 5D, notable one is magic/holy magic and Unique skill benefits which is conceptual manipulation type 1(3 layers), law manipulation(3 layers) and power absorption(1 layer) & power nullification(1 layer) most of these work in 5D so does reinhard resist any of these ?

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

If I'am not mistaken most of Hinata hax is 5D, notable one is magic/holy magic and Unique skill benefits which is conceptual manipulation type 1(3 layers), law manipulation(3 layers) and power absorption(1 layer) & power nullification(1 layer) most of these work in 5D so does reinhard resist any of these ?

No.

 

[GhostBlade07]

No.

So phantom since you Debate with sattela do you know what sattela meant by this ? "nope, but he doesnt need to
his blessings are type 8 abilities. if Hinata gets them Od Laguna can just yoink them away and give them back to Reinhard" is od laguna able to effect someone who has 5D hax because I would Imagine you need to be same type of a conceptual entity or same level dimension entity to effect someone who has a higher dimensional Abilities like 5D hax in order to "yoink them" "give them back to reinhard" but the person in question which is reinhard cannot resist said hax so am I missing something ?

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

So phantom since you Debate with sattela do you know what sattela meant by this ? "nope, but he doesnt need to
his blessings are type 8 abilities. if Hinata gets them Od Laguna can just yoink them away and give them back to Reinhard"

Was saying that the abilities belong to OD. So just lending them to rienhard (don’t think this is how it works in the first place cause rienhard scales above it. or maybe I am misunderstanding something) so if hinata took them OD would just grant them back or “cancel” the abilities given so she wouldn’t have them anymore. But that wouldn’t apply to her cause of how her abilities and resistances work. (If she had the range she could just take OD abilities )

is od laguna able to effect someone who has 5D hax because I would Imagine you need to be same type of a conceptual entity or same level dimension entity to effect someone who has a higher dimensional Abilities like 5D hax in order to "yoink them" "give them back to reinhard" but the person in question which is reinhard cannot resist said hax so am I missing something ?

Idk if it would be affecting her. Or act like a contract. So it just nullifies the “contract” and the abilities return. I am on arc 7 and I only remember 1 mention of od

 

[GhostBlade07]

Idk if it would be affecting her. Or act like a contract. So it just nullifies the “contract” and the abilities return. I am on arc 7 and I only remember 1 mention of od

Oh ok thanks I think I get it now, was trying to find a blog for od laguna and how magic works in Re:zero Did not find it so was a bit confusing about what od laguna can do and cannot do so yeah definitely need a blog for that in order to east of what re:zero characters can do and cannot do within their hax/magic