Pokemon General Discussion Thread Gen II: Gen II Starter Mega Evolution When!?

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

I know, uncreative title but hey at least i'm trying :v

Ehm, welcome to Pokemon General Discussion Thread, here we can discuss anything about Pokemon from vs matches idea, anime/game discussion, game, meme posting, etc.

Recently we have a two project (maybe? I dunno lel) to do, first is cleaning and adding to a poor/mess/stub Pokemons pages and second is adding more Pokemons to this wiki.

And now let's begin!!!

 

[Bobsican]

How broken would be a Shedinja with Sturdy AND Magic Guard at once?

 

[Drite77]

Broken AF

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

How broken would be a Shedinja with Sturdy AND Magic Guard at once?

>Hailstorm

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Wouldn't that require Mold Breaker/Turboblaze/Teravolt to kill? Or maybe switch on Spikes/Stealth Rocks?

 

[Drite77]

Maybe in Gen 5, but i don't see alot of hail teams anymore, though Sandstream teams are still nice to use since they have Ttar and Hippowdown

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Or...just super effective hits.

 

[Drite77]

Wouldn't that require Mold Breaker/Turboblaze/Teravolt to kill?
Or maybe switch on Spikes/Stealth Rocks?

Yes, but i don't know if smogon would consider that to specific as a counter

 

[Drite77]

Or...just super effective hits.

Sturdy...

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Or...just super effective hits.

>Sturdy

Edit: Ninja'd

 

[Drite77]

Oh, i tought that this was magic bounce, so just use toxic and watch as he fall

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

Or...just super effective hits.

Sturdy means that Shedinja is completely invulnerable in that sense.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

What Pokemons you really want to have Mega Evolution?

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

I mean the abilities above say "no u" to abilities

 

[Drite77]

What Pokemons you really want to have Mega Evolution?

Butterfree

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Mega 'Mons...

Eeveelutions

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Porygon-Z.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Zoroark, if all the fan favorites are getting them.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Well mine is Toxicroack and the gen II/IV trio.

 

[Drite77]

When Zoroark was a fan favorite?

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Zoroark, if all the fan favorites are getting them.

Alongside Flygon and Kingdra, maybe Feraligatr too.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Feraligatr won't get one without the other Jotho mons getting one, and I doubt they'd be given that much attention in Gen 8, unless we get HGSS remakes.

 

[Bobsican]

Wouldn't that require Mold Breaker/Turboblaze/Teravolt to kill?
Or maybe switch on Spikes/Stealth Rocks?

Yes, but i don't know if smogon would consider that to specific as a counter

Magic Guard prevents indirect damage, which means that burns, poison, stealth rock, hail, etc don´t even make an scratch on it.

In fact, for that reason it´s banned in metas that allow 2 custom abilities at once.

In other words, the only ways to beat it would likely involve Mold Breaker, Teravolt, Turboblaze, Phothon Geyser, Moongeist Beam Sunsteel Strike, Simple Beam, Worry Seed and stuff of such sort, which obviously would overcentraile any meta that isn´t BH (As really, the Gen 7 ignorabilities moves are quite spammed there).

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Also anyone want to make Toxicroack page?

 

[Bobsican]

8-A Brook via tanking Poison Jabs

 

[Drite77]

I can make one if we know what he scales to, Croagunk included

 

[Drite77]

If Cal agrees, i can make Croagunk 8-A and Toxicroak 7-A

 

[Bobsican]

I still remember back when I used Illusion Kangaskhan in BH and made everyone think it was Mix and Mega (like, "Togekiss megaevolved into Mega Togekiss!")

Now that ability is banned, and in unbalanced hackons it isn´t even worth it.

 

[Drite77]

@Velox, mate, i can possibly start the profile tomorrow, but i will likely only finish that on Thursday

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

8-A Brook via tanking Poison Jabs

Legit

 

[PaChi2]

What Pokemons you really want to have Mega Evolution?

Arceus.

I want to see the world burn.

 

[Bobsican]

Mega Arceus with the Conquest Omnipotent Ability and a new broken move: Time Stop (Lietally stops time for all the opposing Pokémon, in time stop status, they can´t do anything, even be switched, for a period of 2 turns), this move has 5PP, however. Oh, and 140 base stats for all stats but HP.

 

[PaChi2]

140 in all base stats is pretty crazy tbh.

 

[Bobsican]

It likely would stlll be Ubers if only the stats are upgraded, as Arceus kinda suffers Kommo-o syndrome.

 

[PaChi2]

It'd receive another ability if its only a traditional mega evo since, ya know, you cant have a plate equipped and the megastone.

 

[Bobsican]

Plot twist: Arceus megaevolves without a megastone, like Rayquaza

 

[PaChi2]

Plot twist: Arceus megaevolves without a megastone, like Rayquaza

And needs judgement equipped.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Buffed 180 BP Judgement.

 

[PaChi2]

Just make it a 100% activation rate Ancient Power and we are set ovo

 

[Bobsican]

Yay, Mega Arceus is AG now by a new Choice Specs set based on spamming Judgement