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Pain's Super Shinra Tensei Discussion

Unite My Rice said:
Rocker1189 said:
But pulling out someones soul is hax based not AP based. And Nagato is stronger than Pain who would scale to this. And he was saved by Itachi by a Susanoo attack which easily tanked a 7-B attack btw and is only 7-B because we dont have a higher thing to scale it off of. A lot is wrong with that statement.
So you're saying edo Nagato's casual universal pull is stronger than his super shinra tensei?
pain use shinra tensei against six tails naruto and it was uslees then he goes for CT

and i think CT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>super shinra tensei

we even have 6-A CT
 
Nagato used CT once and managed to use his chakra arms to push himself away, the second time he was caught and nearly soul sucked despite using his arms, but Itachi saved him.

It's a toss-up.
 
Err I dont think his chakra arms were that helpful apart from slowing things down. Also all it means is that Naruto scales and Itachi Susanoo may scale.
 
Btw I should emphasize that a Skeleton level Susanoo tanked the 7-B attack. And Itachi's Susanoo that helped is >>>>>>>>> skeleton susanoo.
 
RIP my bad. I forgot he did not go with the shield susanoo. But my original point still stands.
 
Oh yeah, I forgot Pain's Shinra Tensei was a shockwave attack.
 
Naruto actually could have put up a way better fight to keep soul from getting taken but you guys forget that Nagato was pulling out his soul but at the same time Naruto was being held the that giant lizard that Nagato summoned. If naruto wasnt being held by that lizard im pretty sure he could have stopped Nagato from taking his soul with better resistance. Second how those soul hax have anything to do with AP??
 
AstralKing7 said:
Naruto actually could have put up a way better fight to keep soul from getting taken but you guys forget that Nagato was pulling out his soul but at the same time Naruto was being held the that giant lizard that Nagato summoned. If naruto wasnt being held by that lizard im pretty sure he could have stopped Nagato from taking his soul with better resistance. Second how those soul hax have anything to do with AP??
+he didnt want to creat more clons cuz 8 tails said to stop creating more clone

bold agree and that should be PIS if kcm is stronger then sm and we already saw that sm naruto >>>>>>>>>>>any of pain summon in physically
 
the lizard doesnt share the same regen as that dog summon. Yeah it doesnt make sense that the lizard was able to overpower naruto. It should be considered PIS. Naruto did state he was getting weaker while Nagato was taking his soul and while the lizard was restraining him. This should acutally show how strong naruto really is since he was against to opponets technically and still put up resistance.
 
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