Pain's Super Shinra Tensei Discussion

[Dbknowitall]

Yeah carving a mountain would leave ya 7-A

Carving a mountain is not 7A is even Less than cutting it in half probably 7C if he directly Carves to the center or all the way down via Rasengan, afterall Rasengan is only Targeting a small area of a mountain and just carve straight down someone should do a calculation on that

 

[AlexSoloVaAlFuturo]

Sage Mode Jiraiya's Ultra Big Ball Rasengan Attack Potency

 

[AstralKing7]

Shinra tensei litearlly destroyed all of Konoha whiis is around city size and more with that giant ass crater. Also i believe city level for the Shinra tensei was a low ball i cant remember correctly

 

[BlackeJan]

Oh well nvm but SM Jiraiya/Naruto should SLIGHTLY scale

 

[Ssr4vegito]

Shouldn't Minato scale too he was about casually kill A in the war and also cut Gyuki's tail in half and he also has SM. It's also not stupid to think that base Minato would be superior to pain arc SM Naruto considering that A once battled Gyuki and manged to cut off one of it's horns and Minato was said to have batted A and Bee many times always ending in stalemate

 

[Dzhindzholia]

Bump this.

 

[BlackeJan]

Alrighty! let's continue this!

 

[BlackeJan]

Um....hello?

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Hi.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

yo

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

how ya doin guys?

Still, I agree with this

 

[Omimi]

so what conclusion?

 

[BlackeJan]

Lol hey everyone. SM Naruto (vs Pain) & SM Jiraiya should scale since even though imperfect, Pain said of SM Jiraiya had came prepared and knew everything about him then he would had lost

 

[Omimi]

lol we needShrekAlmighty

only he can save us now

 

[BlackeJan]

Somebody call him!

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Can't scale Jiraiya to Pain's strongest Shinra Tensei when a weaker one countered a Rasenshuriken, which is stronger than any offensive technique Jiraiya has.

 

[AstralKing7]

i thought we were scaling to nagato's rain tiger feat??

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Yeah, this one shouldn't scale to others.

 

[BlackeJan]

Can't scale Jiraiya to Pain's strongest Shinra Tensei when a weaker one countered a Rasenshuriken, which is stronger than any offensive technique Jiraiya has.

But Pain said that if SM Jiraiya had intel he would had won & Jiraiya was doing good holding up (until they all came)

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

statements alone shouldn't be really enough, as hiruzen would be stronger then hashirama then.

 

[BlackeJan]

What does Hiruzan have to do w/ this?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

an exemple of statemennts being unrelaiable

 

[BlackeJan]

Yur gonna have to be more specific since never heard of Hiruzen fighting Pain

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

we need nux taku

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Yur gonna have to be more specific since never heard of Hiruzen fighting Pai

Hiruzen was stated to be the strongest hokage evah

 

[BlackeJan]

Yeah in his Prime but old Hiruzen then that's an Idk between the old man and Jiraiya

 

[BlackeJan]

And also strongest Hokage was the 1st and 2nd

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

And also strongest Hokage was the 1st and 2nd

yes, but he was stated to be the strongest hokage, wich is untrue, ergo, statemenst are not always true

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

1st and Fourth

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

es, they were stronger, but hiruezn was stated to be the strongest, which is mypoint. Statements were wrong already

 

[BlackeJan]

yes, but he was stated to be the strongest hokage, wich is untrue, ergo, statemenst are not always true

Yeah the strongest ALIVE but either that compared to all the other homages he's like the weakest except when he's in his Prime

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

no, what even would the pointof saying he is the strongest hokage alive be?

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Tsunade was the Weakest not Hiruzen

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

With her seal on kakashi should be weaker

 

[AstralKing7]

naw kakashi is city+ i think even without susanno

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

tsunade is getting the 100 times stronger.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

@Blacke

Feats already show us that Pain countered something stronger than anything in Jiraiya's arsenal. Jiraiya does not need to scale to Island level as Pain is a glass canon.

 

[BlackeJan]

Well alright but that would contradict what Pain said then right?

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

wouldnt six tailed Naruto scale though

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Ramen guy should scale as he wasnt killed and his ramen shop was in prime condition while Konoha was being rebuilt.