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no because that has a blatant feat, that's the point of unison attacks
meanwhile talking amidst actions happens in every other fiction it would be weird to hold naruto to a different standard entirely
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A Review of the speed of Naruto (Verse)
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meanwhile talking amidst actions happens in every other fiction it would be weird to hold naruto to a different standard entirely
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Using talking speed to judge these things do seem pretty erroneous and inconsistent.
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If an author doesn't put an explicit timer or clock in the scene, is it impossible for time to be passing while a feat happens to be occuring in a scene?
I just think it's an extraordinary claim to believe that the whole scene takes place in less than 0.0029187 seconds and it requires more evidence to support that claim.
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This happen throughout fiction, it is just a narrative resource, an author does not create a story for Powerscaling, so Powerscaling adapts to the narrative, If we are going to take everything based on "I don't think it should be like this" then what are we doing here? Powerscaling ignores so many things in the narrative and this is just one of them, you can't choose when you want to ignore just to use it as an argument.
I'm wondering what the other ADM's opinion would be if I started arguing that talking in the middle of a fight would be proof that they are fighting below the speed of sound because "I just think it's an extraordinary claim to Believe that these characters voice is above sounds speed and it requires more evidence to support that claim".
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Well, UchihaSlayer96, LordGriffin amd LordTracer had no issue with that point in the OP from what I can tell.
I take your point that an author does not create a story for powerscaling; but ignoring every possible thing that could contradict a potential powerscaling assumption just seems to be way too selective about what the manga is showing us. It's like saying that Rock Lee's anti-feat against the Sound Ninja in Part 1 is irrelevant because it's just "narrative" that he can't keep up with them and that actually pure powerscaling would suggest he's really faster-than-light in that scene.
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This fact was precisely what made me stop being just a reader and made me create an account in this forum.
4 Adms chose to ignore the powerscaling logic. And I can bet that none of them stopped to calculate the TBB speed if the conversation time was considered.
You can Choose the time that you want this would break with powerscaling.
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Welcome to the wiki by the way
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Thanks
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It's not a rule on the wiki or a universally accepted "powerscaling logic" for every possible scene so far as I'm aware.
Is it impossible for our current powerscaling chains to be wrong?
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V2 Ay being below a feat done by Kid Gaara does in fact, break narrative
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Since 4 (including OP) staffs agree with this and only 2 disagreement (Nierre and DDM I think), this should be applied and closed
I don't think there's anything else that hasn't been said yet and there are hardly any other staffs outside those 6 that have any special interest in the verse nor have they indicated such here
Unless Damage has other staffs he's willing to summon here
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Since 4 (including OP) staffs agree with this and only 2 disagreement (Nierre and DDM I think), this should be applied and closed
I don't think there's anything else that hasn't been said yet and there are hardly any other staffs outside those 6 that have any special interest in the verse nor have they indicated such here
Unless Damage has other staffs he's willing to summon here
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LordTracer and UchihaSlayer96 haven't commented since I updated the OP and changed the proposals, and US96 indicated to me that he'd be commenting soon so I'd prefer to leave the thread open to get their final votes in instead of rushing into it.
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I didn't say it was a rule in this wiki. And not even the most basic logic in the real world is universally accepted, there are always madmen who ignore logic. And yes, this is powerscaling logic accepted by the majority in this community, as well as "Voice can be FTL".
It is not impossible, but you can't prove that it is wrong using this type of argument arbitrary, you can't dictate if a conversation happened in 2 minutes based only because you think that's is it, you can read and choose to interpret that it is 2 minutes, another can interpret that it is 3, this is too much arbitrary to be considered an argument.
Now let's talk specifically from this wiki, if you choose to consider a conversation to calculate some events and other adms from other other verses do not, how could the wiki be fair? We will have Hypersonic Naruto only because an Adm chose to ignore the existence of narrative resources.
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We’re not ignoring every possible contradiction, I can promise you naruto has several consistent speed metas for this to be overridden (you don’t need ftl, even Subrel and mhs stuff is perfectly valid to bring consistency and out this as an outlier)
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This is exactly what I’ve been saying we’re being held to an absurd standard that other verses conveniently get a free pass on. There’s a clear and drastic disparity in consistency here, and it’s impossible to ignore. If this is the primary evidence being used to justify downgrading the speed, then this CRT should be submitted to a staff discussion where the majority of the wiki’s staff can weigh in. If free action is not accepted by the majority, then we can proceed with downgrades across multiple verses. That’s the only fair and consistent approach.
