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He didn't use haki in general.
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One Piece Chapter 1069: "All things are brought into this world with hope" (Official Translation)
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Didn't Kaido say when he was being punched by white fisted Luffy that Luffy was using Armament and conqueror's?
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Not until Kaku, Jinbei, and Katakuri (one day) become High 6-A lol.
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Joke's on you, I'm Jewish!
Nah, I gave up on Kata when he got hurt by the living fodder that is Oven.
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Different feat, the first chapter of Gear 5th Luffy drew blood from Kaidou without haki.
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G5 Level but can't tag him and got blown away by one punch while Luffy had a whole conversation with someone
I'm so ******* tired of these Lucci fanboys wanking him over the most miniscule things
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Lucci has an Awakening that is relative to a casual Gear 5th Luffy
Well damn...
Well damn...
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Anyway, am I the only one that doesn't really care for Lucci's design?
It's just his normal slim design mixed with a bit of Kaidou's face and the Luffy's clouds. Not terribly creative.
It's just his normal slim design mixed with a bit of Kaidou's face and the Luffy's clouds. Not terribly creative.
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Ok that's fair
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I dont think Luffy even used haki that much when using gear 5
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Kaido implies that he did.
He just may have not been using full Armament except to block 1 time, and for his final attack.
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Just noticed that during the actual Buso punch collision between G5 and Awakened Lucci, they both sent each other flying back into a wall right afterwards, so neither one overpowered the other.
I would make a sandbox for Lucci, but I wanna wait to see if his Base and/or normal Zoan forms get any feats.
I would make a sandbox for Lucci, but I wanna wait to see if his Base and/or normal Zoan forms get any feats.
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That is probably right.
However, I don't think he used Hao Infusion in G5 until the Bajrang Gun. I could be wrong, I don't remember every detail of that fight.
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Wait till we see Crocodile in action again: Got beaten by pre-gears Luffy->Became an equal to Doffy simply by getting tortured in prison->Has Buggy as his b**ch, Mihawk as an ally, a bounty higher than King and was chill despite leaving himself exposed to the rain. My gut feeling tells me he'll have great potential.
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Yeah it was a very casual clash
Not sure about Lucci but Luffy was practically just doing a normal Buso punch
What does Lucci get for that clash and taking the G5 punch though ( may have been very briefly knocked out by it seeing as he didn't appear until Luffy was finished with his conversation but I'm not sure )?
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Still Yonko-lvl Buso punch where Lucci and Luffy sent each other flying.
High 6-A is guaranteed.
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I dunno. It really did just look like a normal Buso punch.
A Yonko level one would be the punches BM used on Law when he used Kroom on her.
But tbf she has a crazy amount of strength to back up her Haki so..
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Also the law v black beard fight proves that acoc isnt the end all for strength, you can train your buso so that it rivals acoc as well
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A normal buso punch from Gear 5th who without haki has High 6-A feats with pure physicals...
How did that fight prove that?
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What??
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It allowed law to fight with Blackbeard with pure physicals, also law's haki had white sparks, which shows that it's an upgraded version
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How is Conquerors/Hao relevant to that fight?
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It shows that conquerors haki isnt the only way to upgrade your bust past the ryou stage
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It didn't.
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If you look at the top panel, you can see the characteristic sparks of acoc and law as far as we know, doesnt have conquerors
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We don't know that Blackbeard has conqueror's either, but in this case it seems to be the post-timeskip effect of the gura gura no mi usage based on the other showings of the ability by Blackbeard:If you look at the top panel, you can see the characteristic sparks of acoc and law as far as we know, doesnt have conquerors
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If you mean casual since he isn't using Conqueror's Coating, compression, size increase, or advanced armament techniques, then yeah.
If you mean casual in terms of his demeanor, than that's not really a negative for Lucci since going by this logic he was also casual against Kaido.
If you mean casual in terms of his demeanor, than that's not really a negative for Lucci since going by this logic he was also casual against Kaido.
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Reminder, just cause Luffy is laughing, smiling, and jumping around in Gear 5th isn't an indicator of him being casual or not using any real strength.
In Gear 5th Luffy's basically high on dopamine and joy.
Luffy is not going all out against Lucci obviously (so Lucci doesn't scale to the max power God tiers at all (unless he gets feats against those)), but we shouldn't act as if Luffy is only using 1%.
The best scaling for Lucci is simple: Awakened Lucci w/ Busoshoku: Koka ~ Gear 5th Luffy w/ Busoshoku: Koka
In Gear 5th Luffy's basically high on dopamine and joy.
Luffy is not going all out against Lucci obviously (so Lucci doesn't scale to the max power God tiers at all (unless he gets feats against those)), but we shouldn't act as if Luffy is only using 1%.
The best scaling for Lucci is simple: Awakened Lucci w/ Busoshoku: Koka ~ Gear 5th Luffy w/ Busoshoku: Koka
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I mean casual in this regard, he hasn’t used size enhancements or Hao Infusion at all yet
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I hundred percent agree with this form of casual as well.
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Luffy never fought Kaidou with Base Buso+Gear 5th. He always used Hao Infusion or Size Enhancements to fight against Kaidou, and since we know that Hao Infusion is a big amp, it’s perfectly fine for an Awakened Lucci to be relative to this Luffy, and even then, this Lucci is still basically losing
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He's not >=Hybrid Kaidou lol
So far we barely have any feats at all.
So far we barely have any feats at all.
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