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One Piece Chapter 1069: "All things are brought into this world with hope" (Official Translation)
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He is coming
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Thanks, remembering the ring Hybrid Yamato had around her body just made me wonder. And I completely forgot Luffy had a cloud ring around him in his Gear 4th forms.
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The actual on-panel feats kind of support that perspective so I don't blame them for thinking that
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Nah, Katakuri got hurt by Oven.
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Damn, all this and Lucci still got one shot after a while.
At least he did that buso clash I guess?
Also his form kind of looks like his other ones, but with sharper teeth and those black clouds around him.
It's cool though.
At least he did that buso clash I guess?
Also his form kind of looks like his other ones, but with sharper teeth and those black clouds around him.
It's cool though.
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there was no one-shot
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Read the chapter?
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Raws are out, Lucci never got one-shot despite what the early spoilers claimed.
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He did a clash with him and then got punched in the side and thrown away for a bit.
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Lol. I just knew this chapter was going to make for an interesting week, whether Lucci got one-shotted or he showed he strong enough to not get one-shotted.
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True, but at this point you just never know with Oda lol
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Wasn't Katakuri vs Oven a gag? Like, by that logic, Pudding punching that Germa brother makes her strong right?
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It was part of the cover story, same as the Pudding stuff
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Doesn't mean it's not a gag.
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It's funny how, unless Kaku gets a good feat (which Base/Normal Zoan Lucci would scale >= to), Lucci's profile is gonna look like this:
"High 7-A, higher with Rokushiki, far higher with Hybrid Form, even higher with Hybrid Rokushiki, High 6-A with Awakened form"
Aka, the Chopper Treatment.
"High 7-A, higher with Rokushiki, far higher with Hybrid Form, even higher with Hybrid Rokushiki, High 6-A with Awakened form"
Aka, the Chopper Treatment.
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Nah, Kat and Oven wasn't a gag and the scene wasn't comparable to Pudding.
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Hybrid Rokushiki didn't knock out Atlas
Don't be so hasty
Don't be so hasty
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Why would Base/Zoan Lucci scale =\> current Kaku?
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I mean...that was how it was before, and the 2 of them should still be comparable to each other.
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If G5 Luffy uses ACoC he might put Lucci to sleep
not even downplay that's just a bit obvious
I hope he holds back a little so Lucci can get some actual feats though?
not even downplay that's just a bit obvious
I hope he holds back a little so Lucci can get some actual feats though?
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Same before =\= the same now, Jabra isn't even confirmed to be in CP9 let alone a masked agent of it yet we wouldn't assume Jabra and Kaku are still close just because they were at one point two years ago.
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I mean, nothing shows Kaku to be above Base/Zoan Lucci, and he seems to be the chief of their subdivision of CP0.
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Not yet, but you're arguing if he gets feats those versions of Lucci should automatically scale above because of how they compared two years ago which isn't accurate scaling.
Him being chief is speculation at this point and if CP0 operates anything like CP9 being chief doesn't mean you're the strongest (Spandam).
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I'm not saying he's still almost double Kaku's power, but he still seems to be the leader of the group with him, Kaku, and Stussy. It was potrayed as such at the Reverie and seems to be the same now.
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Still is a trash scaling justification; being assumed the leader, assuming this assumed leader equals a position of power and assuming that assumed position of power puts his base/zoan self above every version of Kaku.
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What I was suggesting was that Base Lucci >= Base Kaku and Zoan Lucci >= Zoan Kaku
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I know what you were suggesting and my past messages covered why I don't think the justification for that scaling is valid:
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I hope Lucci/Kaku brings back the Doriki, even if only for themselves. I'd love to have a statement about how zoan forms/Awakenings increase/change the power level, since we've been left with pretty much no confirmation whatsoever on how they affect the overall power aside from "well it's a boost"
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Official release comes out
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Shame his normal base/hybrid forms have zero real scaling besides his base scaling above Dressrosa Arc Gear 2nd.
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But he has, he's used Shigan, a new variant of it called Shugan (the hand pistol), and Soru.
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Also, when Lucci gets punched by the Mole punch, he coughs up some blood and then he's gone for a page and a half, and then returns perfectly fine. To say he got one shot is a stretch, when it's most likely he got punched away.
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Let's see whether Lucci and the other CP0 people get a chance to actually do damage to Luffy and/or the Seraphim, respectively.
Also, me when Lucci is almost G5 level, Kaku and Stussy could have the power to damage Seraphim (which would scale them above Sanji's Diable Jambe which IIRC did like no damage), and Jinbei could try to intervene and also get some High 6-A scaling:
Also, me when Lucci is almost G5 level, Kaku and Stussy could have the power to damage Seraphim (which would scale them above Sanji's Diable Jambe which IIRC did like no damage), and Jinbei could try to intervene and also get some High 6-A scaling:
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Also, Luffy hasn't even used Hao Haki here, right? So we might be getting a look at which Gear 5's power level is without Hao imbuement.
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During the Kaido fight he damaged Kaido even without Hao Infusion IIRC.
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