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I'm not sure how those are connected?It prolly does. The Sharingan simply helps out in running speed more than combat speed. I doubt someone needs a Sharingan to swing their chidori around.
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I'm not sure how those are connected?It prolly does. The Sharingan simply helps out in running speed more than combat speed. I doubt someone needs a Sharingan to swing their chidori around.
Basically I'm thinking that the run up is kinda required for the Chidori, but moving your hand at the same exact speed prolly isn't. So the upper ceiling for the amp is likely the same for both but the user can do without moving their hand at the same speed as their running. Does that make sense. Idk why I didn't explain better.I'm not sure how those are connected?
Like Chidori can amp your combat speed but doesn't have to?Basically I'm thinking that the run up is kinda required for the Chidori, but moving your hand at the same exact speed prolly isn't. So the upper ceiling for the amp is likely the same for both but the user can do without moving their hand at the same speed as their running. Does that make sense. Idk why I didn't explain better.I should get more sleep. I also don't have a good memory so I need to brush up on my Naruto details.
That's what I'm thinking but you need to check your presupposition first. If you think that Chidori itself amps your speed then my conclusion would be wrong. If you think you yourself need to run at a certain speed to attain Chidori then it would be right. I forgor to mention that. But the second option explains why the combat speed isn't amped consistently. Both interpretations however have their faults.Like Chidori can amp your combat speed but doesn't have to?
Ain't that right.We all need more sleep
Tbf, most characters would. But I get your point. It's an outcome of the value system that war creates. In a thriving economy, the average person can afford to be selfish.Just randomly clocked that every hokage, no matter the philosophy, don't hesitate to sacrifice their lives for the village. Even Danzo who's probably the most extreme hokage.
That's sweet in a way
I do given Minato's statementThat's what I'm thinking but you need to check your presupposition first. If you think that Chidori itself amps your speed then my conclusion would be wrong.
Ain't that right.
I see. In that case you have two options. If there is a statement that emphasizes running speed more than combat speed, then you can conclude only running speed is amped. On the other hand if there's a statement that makes it clear that lightning nature's property is the reason for the amp, then you can conclude it's an equal amp for combat speed too. Of course you can have more nuance. But these are my immediate thoughts.I do given Minato's statement
Unfortunately it's vague hence my uncertaintyI see. In that case you have two options. If there is a statement that emphasizes running speed more than combat speed, then you can conclude only running speed is amped. On the other hand if there's a statement that makes it clear that lightning nature's property is the reason for the amp, then you can conclude it's an equal amp for combat speed too. Of course you can have more nuance. But these are my immediate thoughts.
I figured.Unfortunately it's vague hence my uncertainty
It's whack cause, like, we see people who are normally on par with the chidori user reacting to or even matching the thrust without any amps of their own (unless we count the Rasengan thrust as a speed amp, which is goofy), so I'd defo say it's rather inconsistent tbh. But apparently it's impossible to use effectively without the Sharingan, regardless of whether or not you run up first or just immediately thrust it from short range.Does Chidori amp your combat speed? I know it definitely amps running speed but there's kinda inconsistent portrayal when it comes to the speed of the thrust that comes after the enhanced dash
I mean… By laws of physics the thrust would be faster than the running speed as that combat speed is added on top of the running speed, no? (I.e., Moving your Hand while standing on a moving car, etc).Basically I'm thinking that the run up is kinda required for the Chidori, but moving your hand at the same exact speed prolly isn't. So the upper ceiling for the amp is likely the same for both but the user can do without moving their hand at the same speed as their running. Does that make sense. Idk why I didn't explain better.I should get more sleep. I also don't have a good memory so I need to brush up on my Naruto details.
Tenchi Bridge and Itachi Pursuit are good (confrontation too but that's more understandable)
I mean...It's whack cause, like, we see people who are normally on par with the chidori user reacting to or even matching the thrust without any amps of their own (unless we count the Rasengan thrust as a speed amp, which is goofy)
Sasuke did use it against Sakura and Naruto tbfso I'd defo say it's rather inconsistent tbh. But apparently it's impossible to use effectively without the Sharingan, regardless of whether or not you run up first or just immediately thrust it from short range.
TragicI feel like it's a case where the lore says one thing, while the feats consistently say another.
Correct, but just like everything in Physics, it depends on the frame of reference. If I'm on a train moving at superhuman speeds, even if I slowly move my hand forward, to an outside observer my hand would move at superhuman speeds, but for me it's just normal hand movement. Similarly just because a character's travel speed is FTL+, if they throw a punch while travelling, the punch might seem to be moving at FTL+ speeds, but their combat speed isn't necessarily at that level unless they can move it just as fast when they're at rest.I mean… By laws of physics the thrust would be faster than the running speed as that combat speed is added on top of the running speed, no? (I.e., Moving your Hand while standing on a moving car, etc).
Yeah that's what Sparkle said too I believe. But tbh I've not really revised my Naruto lore in a while so can't confirm.Iirc, the databook says:
Which imo, is just. a round about way of saying the body is overall amped when using Chidori/Raikiri.
- It’s a thrust done at High Speed
- The body has to be “activated” in preparation to use it
Compared to what came before and what comes after, they're mid asf. They have standout moments within them (Sasuke vs Deidara for instance), but pacing and consistency wise they're not quite up to par with Naruto's best. They're still alright overall, though. They're only "ass" compared to Naruto's high standards.Tenchi Bridge and Itachi Pursuit are good
Day 2 is outstanding. Peak shit.(confrontation too but that's more understandable)
mean...
And Hidari used it pretty well too if you ask me, but apparently it's still not good enoughSasuke did use it against Sakura and Naruto tbf
It be like that sometimes.Tragic
We don't sleepy’all must be on the East Coast or in another Country. Y’all way too active at this time in the morning (PST For Me)
Meh fair enough. I'd say Tenchi Bride is quite solid in those areas though (Sai's arc is underrated)Compared to what came before and what comes after, they're mid asf. They have standout moments within them (Sasuke vs Deidara for instance), but pacing and consistency wise they're not quite up to par with Naruto's best. They're still alright overall, though. They're only "ass" compared to Naruto's high standards.
Perfectly balanced, as all things should beDay 2 is outstanding. Peak shit.
Day 1 though genuinely put my ass to sleep, soooo yeah. Can't in good conscience rate the arc that highly overall because of that.
Adding to my wishlist of things to ask Kishimoto aboutAnd Hidari used it pretty well too if you ask me, but apparently it's still not good enough
This is what I mean by the lore saying one thing and the feats showing another. Cause Kakashi legit had to invent a whole new Jutsu specifically because he can no longer use the Chidori, so like idk tbh. It's definitely not very consistent imo.
It be like that sometimes.
We pm don't knowRegarding the Sukunahikona rods, are their Movement speed impacted by the strength of the Otsutsuki? Or the level of Sukunahikona itself (Number of Stokes)? Or both?
Time Skip Kawaki has a Completed Kokugan Eye like Isshiki. Is his Rod speed equivalent despite not having the same level of power as Isshiki? Pre-TS Kawaki has more stokes in his eye than Jigen, is his Rods faster?
Not as far as we know, no.Boruto doesn’t need to know Chidori to use Kirin, does he?
Everything goes on at Wrath's basementWe need a secret cabal group chat on here that discusses revisions, or One Piece is going to leave us way behind.
You know what I really need tho? A drink, cuz this week is not playing nice at all.We need a secret cabal group chat on here that discusses revisions, or One Piece is going to leave us way behind.
Must be some peak level basement coz the stuff cooked there is most times goldEverything goes on at Wrath's basement
You love Gaara, so do I. I will tell you about the genjutsu and Prime Hiruzen CRT that I have hidden from everyone for now. It will be at least High 6-A and at most 5-C.We need a secret cabal group chat on here that discusses revisions, or One Piece is going to leave us way behind.
You and I bothYou know what I really need tho? A drink, cuz this week is not playing nice at all.
At 50%, nah. At 100%, yes (By Virtue of Size). I point to Relentless Biju Dama.Do you guys think Kurama's Bijū bombs are proportionally stronger than those of the other Bijū? In a pound-for-pound sense.
Most definitely.Do you guys think Kurama's Bijū bombs are proportionally stronger than those of the other Bijū? In a pound-for-pound sense.
The one he used to match the big one by 5 tailed beast was definitely unchargedAt 50%, nah. At 100%, yes (By Virtue of Size). I point to Relentless Biju Dama.
I think that Unless it’s Super Charged, it’s comparable with him being able to shoot more, faster.
It’s also still not a Standard Biju Dama and is significantly more charged than the standard.The one he used to match the big one by 5 tailed beast was definitely uncharged
Pretty sure kurama made it immediately.It’s also still not a Standard Biju Dama and is significantly more charged than the standard.
Brother… fast charging exists… you do know that, right? He popped out the 5W for the 25W.Pretty sure kurama made it immediately.
We've seen the size of kurama charged bomb. There is a huge difference
Naa I disagree.... I think that is kurama standard bijuudama. Even look at the scan you sent. The first image the tbb there is already bigger than any uncharged bijuudama from any tailed beast..Brother… fast charging exists… you do know that, right? He popped out the 5W for the 25W.
That said, the “point” is it’s loaded with more chakra than the standard. Not that he couldn’t make it fast. He already showed he can:
Kurama can make regular sized ones. So, no, I wouldn't say the one he used against the Bijū is like his regular sized one. I wouldn't say it's his absolute strongest either, though.Naa I disagree.... I think that is kurama standard bijuudama. Even look at the scan you sent. The first image the tbb there is already bigger than any uncharged bijuudama from any tailed beast..
Bro… This is literally the first one we see.Naa I disagree.... I think that is kurama standard bijuudama. Even look at the scan you sent. The first image the tbb there is already bigger than any uncharged bijuudama from any tailed beast..