Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

[NeoKingOfLight]

Kurama can make regular sized ones. So, no, I wouldn't say the one he used against the Bijū is like his regular sized one. I wouldn't say it's his absolute strongest either, though.

Anyway, the reason behind my question doesn't have much to do with the 1v5 Bijūdama clash. It's actually about the one used during the Hashirama vs Madara flashback.

As you all know, Gyūki can somewhat tank his Bijūdama's explosion even while injured and extremely fatigued. This implies that Bijū can physically withstand their TBBs, at least to some extent. This is supported by the Juubi tanking his TBB, KN4 withstanding his compressed TBB's shockwave INTERNALLY, and so on and so forth...

The reason I'm questioning whether Kurama might possibly be an outlier is that his Bijūdama seemingly one-shot Hashirama's Wood Golem with his TBB using an uncharged standard sized TBB.
For those who don't know, the Wood Golem's stated to be equal to Kurama in the Databook, and it's directly shown when it caught his TBB (non-exploded), which are still at least comparable to a Bijū's physicals (as per Sakura Hiden, and other showings).
So if Kurama's regular ass Bijū bombs can one-shot physical rivals, then perhaps they're just proportionally much stronger than those of regular Bijū? Or maybe the Wood Golem thing is just an outlier, I have no idea tbh

Well again, going back to my original response, given the size disparity between 100% Kurama and the Regular Biju, I’d argue his Standard Biju Dama are stronger as they are bigger (Might be Faulty on my part tbh).

As far as him being able to tank it (We see him do what 4 Tails did twice (Vs Naruto/Vs Konoha). I think he very much can tank his Standard TBB easily.

 

[SlendVeny]

"You think you can hurt me? I'm in Sage Mode, you idiot!"

Never change, Naruto.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Well again, going back to my original response, given the size disparity between 100% Kurama and the Regular Biju, I’d argue his Standard Biju Dama are stronger as they are bigger (Might be Faulty on my part tbh).

Yeah, but I'm not really asking whether he's stronger than the Bijū or not. He obviously is.
I'm asking if a regular Kurama TBB is stronger than a regular Bijū's TBB pound-for-pound. As in, if you were to equalize their stats and size, his Bijū bomb would still be stronger than theirs. Does that make sense?

As far as him being able to tank it (We see him do what 4 Tails did twice (Vs Naruto/Vs Konoha). I think he very much can tank his Standard TBB easily.

Yeah, but those are just shockwaves. Not quite the full explosion that seemingly destroyed the Wood Golem.

 

[ssgengar]

regular sized ones

God this fight is so slept on. Seeing Madara stick Susano’o blades inside Kurama TBBs and having them clash with Hashirama’s 1000 Armed wood jutsu was actually insane lmao

Crazy because just one of those bladed TBBs was enough to smash through Hashirama’s 5 Layer Rashomon, rip through a long stretch of water then explode on a whole other island lmao

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

God this fight is so slept on. Seeing Madara stick Susano’o blades inside Kurama TBBs and having them clash with Hashirama’s 1000 Armed wood jutsu was actually insane lmao

Crazy because just one of those bladed TBBs was enough to smash through Hashirama’s 5 Layer Rashomon, rip through a long stretch of water then explode on a whole other island lmao

The OG bijū Rasenshuriken ong

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Kurama can make regular sized ones. So, no, I wouldn't say the one he used against the Bijū is like his regular sized one. I wouldn't say it's his absolute strongest either, though.

Anyway, the reason behind my question doesn't have much to do with the 1v5 Bijūdama clash. It's actually about the one used during the Hashirama vs Madara flashback.

As you all know, Gyūki can somewhat tank his Bijūdama's explosion even while injured and extremely fatigued. This implies that Bijū can physically withstand their TBBs, at least to some extent. This is supported by the Juubi tanking his TBB, KN4 withstanding his compressed TBB's shockwave INTERNALLY, and so on and so forth...

The reason I'm questioning whether Kurama might possibly be an outlier is that his Bijūdama seemingly one-shot Hashirama's Wood Golem with his TBB using an uncharged standard sized TBB.
For those who don't know, the Wood Golem's stated to be equal to Kurama in the Databook, and it's directly shown when it caught his TBB (non-exploded), which are still at least comparable to a Bijū's physicals (as per Sakura Hiden, and other showings).
So if Kurama's regular ass Bijū bombs can one-shot physical rivals, then perhaps they're just proportionally much stronger than those of regular Bijū? Or maybe the Wood Golem thing is just an outlier, I have no idea tbh

Maybe the Wood Golem is just less durable than it is strong, kinda consistent with how the Shinsuu Senju's arms break when they hit the opponent

 

[SlendVeny]

"You think you can hurt me? I'm in Sage Mode, you idiot!"

Never change, Naruto.

Honestly, if Neji, Rock Lee, Tenten, Guy, Yamato, Sai, and Anko weren't out of the village, or Root did anything, Pain would have been screwed. I mean, Lee or Guy could probably take down 4 of them with the 6th Gate alone, and Neji could take one or two out on his own, as could Danzo.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Maybe the Wood Golem is just less durable than it is strong, kinda consistent with how the Shinsuu Senju's arms break when they hit the opponent

Valid take, although it's weird because logically speaking it'd break apart under the force of its own strikes. But on the other hand, that's an appeal to reality, and fictional verses at the end of the day aren't beholden to real life physics or logic. And also extra weird because it did withstand the force of the un-exploded TBB, but I digress.

 

[karo_senpaii]

I guess kurama can make regular sized once then.

Also slayer maybe it's an outlier coz kurama regular bombs being above his physicals seem strange.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

I guess kurama can make regular sized once then.

Also slayer maybe it's an outlier coz kurama regular bombs being above his physicals seem strange.

Perhaps, yeah.

 

[karo_senpaii]

Perhaps, yeah.

Or is there a possibility the wood golem was already weakened prior?

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Or is there a possibility the wood golem was already weakened prior?

It was literally created in response to the TBB being fired, so it didn't receive any damage prior to the TBB.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

I guess kurama can make regular sized once then.

Also slayer maybe it's an outlier coz kurama regular bombs being above his physicals seem strange.

Why is that strange?

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Why is that strange?

I assume given the precedence of other Bijū withstanding their TBBs to some extent.
But tbh the lore of the TBBs does support them being fairly stronger than a Bijū's physicals.

 

[Damage3245]

As you all know, Gyūki can somewhat tank his Bijūdama's explosion even while injured and extremely fatigued.

To be honest Gyuki actually looked quite badly injured and it was by a fairly small and quickly charged Biju bomb being reflected back at him. (Assuming you're referring to the instance of the Ten-Tails reflecting his Biju bomb back at him)

I wouldn't say his reaction to it would be that he 'tanked' it.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

To be honest Gyuki actually looked quite badly injured and it was by a fairly small and quickly charged Biju bomb being reflected back at him. (Assuming you're referring to the instance of the Ten-Tails reflecting his Biju bomb back at him)

I wouldn't say his reaction to it would be that he 'tanked' it.

It was a standard size Bijū bomb (vaguely comparable in size to the Bijū's head/face, give or take).

And maybe tank isn't the right word, but it's clearly not a bazillion times above him either, especially when you factor in he was already pretty tired and injured from his previous battles.

 

[Maurbor]

why not created something like "Shinobi Physiology" that inclueds = Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Acrobatics, Statistics Amplification (Shinobi are capable of enhancing their physical capabilities with the use of chakra. The Shunshin no Jutsu allows Shinobi to greatly enhance their speed by focusing chakra in their feet[1][2][3]), Surface Scaling and Water Walking (By focusing chakra at the soles of their feet, Shinobi can scale and cling to vertical surfaces, and even walk on water[4][5]), Minor Illusion Creation and Duplication (With the Clone Technique[6], Shinobi can create illusionary duplicates of themselves that have no physical substance), Shapeshifting (With the Transformation Technique[6], Shinobi can transform themselves into other people, animals, plants, and even inanimate objects, such as weapons), Paralysis Inducement (With the Temporary Paralysis Technique[7], Shinobi can completely paralyze their targets from close to mid range) = Since it almost on every Character already since that makes easier to undestand what makes this Charakter different and while we are at it why not add a Byakugan and Rinnegan page

 

[SlendVeny]

why not created something like "Shinobi Physiology" that inclueds = Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Acrobatics, Statistics Amplification (Shinobi are capable of enhancing their physical capabilities with the use of chakra. The Shunshin no Jutsu allows Shinobi to greatly enhance their speed by focusing chakra in their feet[1][2][3]), Surface Scaling and Water Walking (By focusing chakra at the soles of their feet, Shinobi can scale and cling to vertical surfaces, and even walk on water[4][5]), Minor Illusion Creation and Duplication (With the Clone Technique[6], Shinobi can create illusionary duplicates of themselves that have no physical substance), Shapeshifting (With the Transformation Technique[6], Shinobi can transform themselves into other people, animals, plants, and even inanimate objects, such as weapons), Paralysis Inducement (With the Temporary Paralysis Technique[7], Shinobi can completely paralyze their targets from close to mid range) = Since it almost on every Character already since that makes easier to undestand what makes this Charakter different and while we are at it why not add a Byakugan and Rinnegan page

Because it's not a physiology. A chakra page, however...

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Because it's not a physiology. A chakra page, however...

 

[SlendVeny]

I'm not making that lol, but it'd be REALLY convenient once I drop my Jonin sandbox.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

I'm not making that lol, but it'd be REALLY convenient once I drop my Jonin sandbox.

Yeah, I'm making the chakra blog. It's gonna be quite the feat once I stop being a bum that is.

 

[karo_senpaii]

Yeah, I'm making the chakra blog. It's gonna be quite the feat once I stop being a bum that is.

You've taken your crumbs of bread. Now get back into the basement and churn out them CRT's !

 

[SlendVeny]

I'm not making that lol, but it'd be REALLY convenient once I drop my Jonin sandbox.

How relevant does a character need to be to get a profile?

 

[MinatoSparkle]

How relevant does a character need to be to get a profile?

Have more screentime than Tenten

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Have more screentime than Tenten

Naruto's Sadness and Sorrow swing level.

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

most links using https://imgur.com don't work anymore (As far as a can tell with my limited seaching the links for the tailed beast still work)

this is why adding references are important

 

[MinatoSparkle]

this is why adding references are important

Learning this is the only upside of having to do all those citations in school essays

 

[SlendVeny]

Have more screentime than Tenten

Uh oh...

 

[SlendVeny]

Uh oh...

She does appear in more chapters than Hagoromo and Hamura combined iirc.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Yeah, I'm making the chakra blog. It's gonna be quite the feat once I stop being a bum that is.

Keep it up and you'll go back to the basement.

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

So we know Kv1 Kawaki gets two shotted by Jura. But considering the field as it stands, where do you guys think TE Kawaki, as it stands now will rank? Who would be his closest rival? Is he rivaling Limitless Code?

Think from a narrative perspective. Where would you place him? “Personally”, I can see him being Jigen Level with TE, post-TS, with him still needing some training to catch up.

 

[karo_senpaii]

So we know Kv1 Kawaki gets two shotted by Jura. But considering the field as it stands, where do you guys think TE Kawaki, as it stands now will rank? Who would be his closest rival? Is he rivaling Limitless Code?

Think from a narrative perspective. Where would you place him? “Personally”, I can see him being Jigen Level with TE, post-TS, with him still needing some training to catch up.

TE asin V2? I think he definitely is not rivalling code. Why I think so is according to prescience code actually kills him. Boruto is a special case coz he levelled up with kk training but is kawaki that different than his other timeline self that gets killed by code? I highly doubt it. I think there is some difference as maybe in this timeline he has got better in his use of karma than the other timelins due to code majorly pursuing boruto instead of him in this one but overall I still think he'd fall short of code. I'd say we might get a statement of kawaki being better proficient with karma than jigen sometimes soon but for now dude is a bum

 

[Godernet]

why not created something like "Shinobi Physiology" that inclueds = Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Acrobatics, Statistics Amplification (Shinobi are capable of enhancing their physical capabilities with the use of chakra. The Shunshin no Jutsu allows Shinobi to greatly enhance their speed by focusing chakra in their feet[1][2][3]), Surface Scaling and Water Walking (By focusing chakra at the soles of their feet, Shinobi can scale and cling to vertical surfaces, and even walk on water[4][5]), Minor Illusion Creation and Duplication (With the Clone Technique[6], Shinobi can create illusionary duplicates of themselves that have no physical substance), Shapeshifting (With the Transformation Technique[6], Shinobi can transform themselves into other people, animals, plants, and even inanimate objects, such as weapons), Paralysis Inducement (With the Temporary Paralysis Technique[7], Shinobi can completely paralyze their targets from close to mid range) = Since it almost on every Character already since that makes easier to undestand what makes this Charakter different and while we are at it why not add a Byakugan and Rinnegan page

That sounds dumb who would ever make a page for General Shinobi abilities and then never post it

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

That sounds dumb who would ever make a page for General Shinobi abilities and then never post it

Yeah, whoever that is might end up in the basement with @UchihaSlayer96

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

TE asin V2? I think he definitely is not rivalling code. Why I think so is according to prescience code actually kills him.

That was actually Pre-TS Kawaki. Kini said after he kills Sarada and Boruto, he went on to lose to Code.

Boruto is a special case coz he levelled up with kk training but is kawaki that different than his other timeline self that gets killed by code? I highly doubt it. I think there is some difference as maybe in this timeline he has got better in his use of karma than the other timelins due to code majorly pursuing boruto instead of him in this one but overall I still think he'd fall short of code. I'd say we might get a statement of kawaki being better proficient with karma than jigen sometimes soon but for now dude is a bum

Lol, Yeah I think Jigen is gonna be his Soft Cap for now.

 

[HelloThere1089]

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Yeah, whoever that is might end up in the basement with @UchihaSlayer96

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

He really is just like me fr.

So real.

 

[HelloThere1089]

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

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