I think you got some things wrong, yeah, Kizaru's FTL+ speed (be it his combat, lasers or the one via acceleration) will drop to Nacht's level or below it in the case of his lasers, but the Acceleration will still keep the proportional amp of being able to blitz those equal to Kizaru's combat speed.
If Kizaru has higher Haki than Sanji, how come Sanji could deflect his laser with a kick?
That's just their Haki/Fruit being stronger, no need for a layer.
if you wanna change that make a CRT
Do I have to agree with everything just because someone else agreed to it?if you wanna change that make a CRT
also why are we using 5-C Kizaru...doesn't he one shot now?
haki is already accepted as 5-7 layers so there's literally no point in saying, "nah its only 1 layer" unless you make an accepted crt reducing the layers
This didn't really answer my question, just because something is accepted do I have to accept it? To me it doesn't make sense and maybe one day I will make a CRT but I don't really feel like it atm but that still doesn't mean I have to accept everything even if I myself don't agree.
Well, in case you're new here (seems to be the case), we do go with whatever info is currently in the profiles until a CRT adds or removes something.
Sounds like we need a CRT then, maybe I'll do that when I feel like it.
I couldn't help but notice it. Some of the layering here looks outright stupid. I don't know if the "NPI layer" is actually a thing here, but it certainly isn't in the dozens of novels and animes I've read. Most scenes where someone can interact with one non-physical thing but not another have more to do with their nature, physiological differences, or range rather than the hell I just read
I agree with Nacht using Battlefield Removal on Kizaru, that Kizaru couldn't get out of the Sealing & immediately disappear because he's a Light Logi and Nacht hard counters Light (I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DEVIL FRUIT PEOPLE THAT CAN TURN INTO ELEMENTS ARE CALLED), and that Nacht's shadows could interact with Kizaru to physically pull him into the Seal. I agree with the arguments that kizaru couldn't sense which Nacht is the real one, even if he does one shot. You've read pages 1-2. I'm just regurgitating the points in those pages.
Says who
Would just mean kizaru can't transform into light or create light... He himself wouldn't disappear in the dimension tho
You guys say that but haven't said how...
Still not possible as kizaru can disperse into small photons and move away
And Kizaru can danmaku every single clone and nacht himself one by one, it doesn't matter if he can't sense him...
No, not like that. I meant that you've already seen pages 1-2 in addition to 3, 4, & 5. Not that you've only seen pages 1-2 (Meaning that you didn't see pages 3, 4, & 5)
I haven't seen Black Clover but I've seen Arnoldstone18 say "And since Kizaru is light and the shadow hard counters light in the series, even the BFR removes the concept of light. Yeah Nacht is easily winning this" I assume he is knowledgeable enough about Black Clover to make this honest statement.
Nacht has a "mana zone" where apparently he can effect the entire, well, zone. See Epsilon_R's counterargument on Page 2.
How fast can he do this? Not sure on the In-Character aspects of each character, but the people arguing for Nacht imply that he starts with Battlefield Removal. Is Kizaru one-shotting Nacht before Sealing/BFR does him in? On top of the clones?
he does everything instantly, just spawns them in... This is his first opening move when fighting seriously with his devil fruit
Ah yeah my bad then
Because we all know kizaru has much more wincons and are much more viable
