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6-C Tournament: "Journey Through The Ride of Mystery and Supernatural Power" Round 3 - Match 4: Sion Eltnam Atlasia vs Nacht Faust

ALTERNATE TITLE: NOT A DEVIL....BUT NOT A HUMAN NEITHER​


At long last, they were finally faced each others
The Vice-Captain of Black Bull and the Former Magus of Atlas Academy
Both granted by an excellent talents, both were also contained by the power of "evil and darkness"
However, only Nacht that has shown a complete control over it while Sion struggled to balanced her power
Right now she's not in her corrupted state but for how long? We are not sure
As for now, Nacht would do what he must here: To Kill
Can he successed? Or it would be Sion instead with her abilities and talent as the top magus?

  • Base Sion is used
  • Devil Unions Equus and Canis are restricted
  • Speed are equalized
  • Both are in-characters
  • Place located in: Empty Road of Tokyo City
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  • Starting Range: 10 Meters
  • Win via anything!!
  • Vice-Captain of Black Bull: 8
  • Former Magus of Atlas: 5
  • Inconclusive: 0

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  • GRAND BATTLE THEME 1: DRINK IT DOWN​

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  • GRAND BATTLE THEME 2: TIME IS DEAD
 
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Sion has passive 4-D resistances, so... Nacht's BFR, Power Nullification, Sealing, and (probably) Spatial Manipulation are useless right-off the bat...

Not entirely sure how Nacht's Demons works, but depending on how old they are and what they are made of... they get insta-****** via Sion's BBR's Regeneration Negation, Soul Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation, Information Manipulation, limited Mind Manipulation and Memory Manipulation through its nature as a conceptual weapon that enforces the target's life span in order to kill them. Nacht, funny enough, is completely safe against BBR. It is still a gun that fires bullets, tho.

Also, if it could reach him, Sion's Etherline, with a single touch, could also fry Nacht's brain.

... However, all of this is rendered pretty moot since, well... Sion has unknown LS. If Nacht uses his shadows to restrain her, she can't escape it. Hell, Nacht could possibly crush Sion to death via sheer LS. BC Supporters can provide more.
 
Kazuma_kuwabara said:
Unknown age and made of mana
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So they probably get insta-killed with Sion's BBR if she manages to get a shot off.
Kazuma_kuwabara said:
His first move if he is not in Devil Union

Nacht can win ? What year is it, is the first time Black Clover would win against Fate
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I wager a good number of Black Clover characters can win against Fate/Tsukihime/Knk/Insert Other Type Moon Series Here. It just depends on the match-up, conditions, and all of that jazz.
 
Kazuma_kuwabara said:
Unknown age and made of mana

His first move if he is not in Devil Union

Nacht can win ? What year is it, is the first time Black Clover would win against Fate
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I mean Sion LS is unknown so Nacht shadow can restrain her just fine, but thats it i guess? Nacht speed amp might be not much an issue due of Sion reaction speed but i need this to be corrected since i'm not sure
 
Doesn't Natch ability to basically cast massive AoE darkness mess with Sion ability to perceived him? While the ability to block out Ki senses might not work that's still a huge disadvantages for her.
 
Nicetoderp said:
Doesn't Natch ability to basically cast massive AoE darkness mess with Sion ability to perceived him? While the ability to block out Ki senses might not work that's still a huge disadvantages for her.
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Well that one got resisted as she has a resistance toward perception and sense manipulation
 
Veloxt1r0kore said:
Well tbh, that's not going to stop her as she also had a precog to avoid the AoE
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The AoE is a massive hundreds of meters, she need to get out of there fast while being hunt by Natch who can used his shadow magic to spawn hands underneath her feet, and if she get grab it's GG.

He also have Mana Zone to senses her wire shenanigans as well.
 
Nicetoderp said:
The AoE is a massive hundreds of meters, she need to get out of there fast while being hunt by Natch who can used his shadow magic to spawn hands underneath her feet, and if she get grab it's GG.
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Again, precog is the answer even if the AoE are hundreds of meters
Also she has BBR here and with the nature of Nacht with his demons that going to f*** up him badly
Nicetoderp said:
He also have Mana Zone to senses her wire shenanigans as well.
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I might be wrong but the wire is hard to detect
 
Veloxt1r0kore said:
Again, precog is the answer even if the AoE are hundreds of meters
Also she has BBR here and with the nature of Nacht with his demons that going to f*** up him badly
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He doesn't open with demon form, and his shadow magic basically follow alongside him. Her precog is base on prediction, something that's gonna be hard to do when she's basically blind for the whole fight.
 
Etherlite should be impossible to detect seeing how thin they are (1 micrometer) unless nacht has really good eyes. Her precog should still work even if she can't see her opponent, although it would obviously be less effective.
Does the etherlite mind control get past nacht mind manip resistance? Even if it doesn't, it should greatly improve her precog (unless mind reading is also resisted by mind manip resistance?), and she should still be able to fry his brain
Can she use her etherlite to destroy the shadow hands with AP? that should take care of the LS issue at least

not voting yet, I'm just listing of Sion's possibilities
 
TypeOU said:
Etherlite should be impossible to detect seeing how thin they are (1 micrometer) unless nacht has really good eyes. Her precog should still work even if she can't see her opponent, although it would obviously be less effective.
Does the etherlite mind control get past nacht mind manip resistance?
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I'm sure it does as it can affect the True Ancestor
TypeOU said:
Can she use her etherlite to destroy the shadow hands with AP? that should take care of the LS issue at least
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Depend on the AP, iirc Nacht scaled above 6+ GT but i could be wrong
 
quick check, his ap is 26.5 GT. Pretty close but at the very least she's not getting one shotted by the hands
 
Veloxt1r0kore said:
Actually, isn't the Tsukihime/MB chars scaled to Arc feat or was it changed?
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Arc >>> Elesia, who is >> to the Roa who fought dantes
WOG that like half of the tsukiverse casts is servant tier (Arc, Kouma, Ciel, the whole burial agency, most of the DAAs).
 
Arnoldstone18 said:
Demons are made of mana?
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They are the counterparts of spirits that are made of mana, both has demonstrate the ability to exist without eating or resting, both are extremely weak to Asta Antimagic that cut them like butter

Also, to be 100% clear, Nacht has Devils, Demons are people transformed by extreme hatred and underworld power like Licht
 
TypeOU said:
quick check, his ap is 26.5 GT
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Yes, but Nacht has Mana zone that amps his AP and Speed, amp normally treated as x3 (because semantics and I hate semantics) so at least, treat it as a x1.5 at a bare minimun

And because Arnold still did not make the CTR, he said that 2 devil unions can be use because that Devil unions only gave him abilities, not a change of tier, but he should talk about this, not me
 
I personally liked the point about the creating darkness to blind the enemy. It isn’t preception manipulation or sense manipulation since it doesn’t affect the senses or preception directly. It just removes light to kill vision and makes it hard for threats to be detected within it.

Nacht’s AP is at least 26.5 Gigatons, because he easily upscales from Asta who scales very high from the 26.5 Gigatons in base and even much higher in black mode. So much so that he is possibly be 53 Gigatons. So Nacht’s heavily upscales from 26.5 Gigatons.

I don’t know if we use possibly ratings, the reason it’s “possibly” is cuz Asta probably scales to Noelle. Which I think he does in black mode but Idk if possibly ratings can be used here. Can they?

Of course this this 26.5 G rating and the rest of his stats can be amped further with forbidden and reinforcement magic. It’s a huge amp but unquantifiable. Nacht also has Manazone on top of all of this. Don’t forget Nacht massively upscales from Asta, so add that on top of his amps.

What is Nacht’s opponents’ AP?

Speed is amped with forbidden and reinforcement. Felis Mode further boosts his speed to match supreme devils faster than him and survive the battle feild being nuked by danmaku of ice and fire. So Nacht’s definitely has the speed advantage. Unless his opponent has speed amps of her own to match Felis mode + Reinforcement + Forbidden magic. Also has teleportation as miscellaneous.

Nacht’s lifting strength is definitely higher. So Nacht can easily restrain her indefinitely without difficulty. He could crush her too. Assuming “unknown” means she has 0 lifting strength feats.

Nacht can also Paralyze her to restrain her with shadow magic: characteristic call.

What is her resistance to BFR feat? You can ignore this question cuz there is still the LS and stealth advantage. But I’d still like to know, cuz why not?

so in summary stealth mastery, maybe speed and AP advantage with all his amps, (idk if she has speed amps or what her AP is)
 
Kazuma_kuwabara said:
They are the counterparts of spirits that are made of mana, both has demonstrate the ability to exist without eating or resting, both are extremely weak to Asta Antimagic that cut them like butter

Also, to be 100% clear, Nacht has Devils, Demons are people transformed by extreme hatred and underworld power like Licht
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Liebe says hi!
 
Kazuma_kuwabara said:
They are the counterparts of spirits that are made of mana, both has demonstrate the ability to exist without eating or resting, both are extremely weak to Asta Antimagic that cut them like butter

Also, to be 100% clear, Nacht has Devils, Demons are people transformed by extreme hatred and underworld power like Licht
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Oh crap
You said Demons not Devils!!

my bad, yeah they are thousands of years old and are made of mana
 
Azevedo128 said:
Liebe says hi!
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Mana is the source of magic power, Liebe could be made of Mana and still can´t use any of it= no magic power

Edit: Better explanation: Mana is the source to use Magic power, Magic power is used to cast magic, you could have a body made of mana but still be incapable of using Magic power because is a use of said Mana to begin with

Example with other anime: Rock Lee has chakra but can´t use it to do ninjutsu, only taijutsu
 
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Kazuma_kuwabara said:
Mana is the source of magic power, Liebe could be made of Mana and still can´t use any of it= no magic power

Edit: Better explanation: Mana is the source to use Magic power, Magic power is used to cast magic, you could have a body made of mana but still be incapable of using Magic power because is a use of said Mana to begin with

Example with other anime: Rock Lee has chakra but can´t use it to do ninjutsu, only taijutsu
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They literally felt no magic from him and the fact that he creates AM and his body isn't affected means that he's not made of mana.
 
Azevedo128 said:
They literally felt no magic from him and the fact that he creates AM and his body isn't affected means that he's not made of mana.
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Then 2 explanations:

He is different from the normal Devil

Or because he is the one that created said "magic", he is the only one that has resistance to it despite being made of mana

Because he is not weak, while the others are, and Asta is not cutting limbs from persons like butter despite that persons having Mana and being physically weaker (and Asta going with intention to damage), while Devils who also has Mana literally can´t do anything to stop a clean cut

Edit: Also, let´s not derail, even if Devils are not made of Mana, the fate character still would instakill the devils with her guns
 
Kazuma_kuwabara said:
Then 2 explanations:

He is different from the normal Devil

Or because he is the one that created said "magic", he is the only one that has resistance to it despite being made of mana

Because he is not weak, while the others are, and Asta is not cutting limbs from persons like butter despite that persons having Mana and being physically weaker (and Asta going with intention to damage), while Devils who also has Mana literally can´t do anything to stop a clean cut

Edit: Also, let´s not derail, even if Devils are not made of Mana, the fate character still would instakill the devils with her guns
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True but Nacht has literally no reason to pull out the devils since they're not that strong alone and he can't use DU.
 
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