MCU CRT Vol 4: Endgame.

[Newendigo]

Greetings

After three different threads, we decided to take a break from the revisions, and updated all the character's stats Pre-IW.

Now, it has been 10 days or so, is time to disscuss the Low 6-B stats.

For newer users that lack information, go to the previous threads already linked above.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Part of me hoped this day would never come

So irrc the current issue is the explosion that killed surtur (Which needs a recalc) Is lower then thors feat of moving the rings, now this is further exacerbated by the fact nivallder has no consistent size and shifts between shots. making the art directors statement of it being the size of a small moon dubious.

Along with hela being casually beaten by a single sword strike from surtur, the same surtur who died to the explosion of asgard. The one defense for this is surtur is weakened by hela's attack I have some problems with this assumption as he simply staggers then rather casually squashes hela.

Beyond the rings there is no solid calc to put them at 6b, every other calc is problematic in some way or another.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

me too

Btw,

The calc we should be using would be 3e21 joules. the asgardian explosion is 2e21. And that's before we re calc it

Surtur got hurt multiple times by Hela, dying to an explosion slightly below isn't an anti feat

Hela stabbed surtur multiple times in the heart, before you say he only slightly staggered before killing hela, stabbing it in the heart would be enough to cause a good amount of damage to surtur

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

See I could agree if sutur hadn't squashed her like and insect with a single stab of his sword. he staggers from her attack then oneshots her with a single stab which leaves me with the impression she didn't overly harm him. Now maybe Im being overly pedantic but the issue remains an explosion that wipes surtur out is below thor moving the inconsistently sized rings.

We're liable to begin circling again if we continue though Id like to hear others thoughts on the issue.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Hela's AP is comparable to Surtur's durability. But Surtur in AP is far stronger than Hela

I would also like to hear other's thoughts.

Finally, I reccomend before we continue, we need a recalc of surtur yeeting asgard before we can continue, since this thread is basically about if that would be an anti feat and nidallevir is an outlier

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

ah shit, here we go agai

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Thor creating storms should be Low 7-B to 7-B

 

[Newendigo]

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Hey Spino, can you please make the calc??

 

[Newendigo]

I recently recall an old feat from Thor 1, where Mjolnir creates big ass crater after being thrown from Asgard to Earth, without suffering any damage from the impact.

This would scale to Hela who easily crushed Mjolnir.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Consediring that the only nukes with power in tier 6 or high tier 7 are the ones the size of hills that won'tmean much

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

I recently recall an old feat from Thor 1, where Mjolnir creates big ass crater after being thrown from Asgard to Earth, without suffering any damage from the impact.
This would scale to Hela who easily crushed Mjolnir.

It sounds fine but I really doubt you'll get much, we'll have to calc based off crater size and depth which while impressive I have doubts it reaches beyond tier 7 (Could be wrong not the best with math)

 

[Newendigo]

Have you seen the crater tho...?

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

The ones in tier 6 range are the size of New Jersey in length and kilometers deep (Although tbf, that one was High 6-B, but I still doubt the crater will get anything in tier 6, maybe 7-A which I would rather have if we NEED a downgrade)

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Fair needs a calc though.

 

[Newendigo]

Blue@ I'm not targeting a Tier 6 feat, just something we could calc.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Wait a Minute, Aren't you talking about the crater with the stan lee cameo??

 

[Newendigo]

Which one else?

I think someone calc it at some point.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

They did, they got 8-A

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

8A hela downgrade next

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

At this point I can see that happening

 

[Newendigo]

Whaaaaat I recall it was in the Tier 7 range.

Either someone look for the calc or make a new one, ain't not eating your horseshiet D:<

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Actually the ring feat needs to be recalculated as I used an average neutron star size but actually someone calculated the size of the neutron star to be smaller.

Would probably still be Tier 6 tho

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

If it's lower then suturs death I will let this die

 

[TheDarkSide857]

If it's lower then suturs death I will let this die </div>

Then I will revive it.

For the meeeeeeeeeemes!

 

[Newendigo]

This revisions has evolved on the levels of memes...

We turned into GODS unintentionally.

 

[TheDarkSide857]

This revisions has evolved on the levels of memes...
We turned into GODS unintentionally.

Ha! Finally!

Now I can erase you all with a thought!

 

[Newendigo]

Dark@ Cringe...

Spino@ Are you working on that recalc?

Also bump.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

This revisions has evolved on the levels of memes...
We turned into GODS unintentionally.

And these gods are stronger than the revised MCU

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Sorry I was busy lol, recalc Surtur feat or what?

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

The nivallder feat with the new value for the size of the star

 

[Revan_Laha]

Nidavellir is around 1.2 km in diameter. The result would probably be 6-C.

Also Surtur tanking the initial blast of Asgard (that wiped out several mountains and the crystals beneath Asgard) casually should be calculated too

 

[Revan_Laha]

This CRT is MCU's Endgame. RIP Tier 6

 

[Dino_W]

Spino's Calc(s) https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan/Thor_moves_Nidavellir's_ring

Video used by Spino

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=tLNZv28J8b0&feature=emb_logo

The size of Nidavellir used by the guy in the video was 12.3 kilometers, the neutron star diameter we use is 678.636 meters. 12300/678.636=18.1245910915.

Square-cube law

18.1245910915^3=5953.94271376

This means the rings if they are made of steel should be 5953.94271376 times less massive than the mass calculated by aforementioned video dude. This also lowers the energy by the same amount.

Higher-End

1.7012102661446543e22 joules/5953.94271376=2.85728356e18 joules or 682.890772 megatons (Mountain level+)

Lower-End

3.007269068351625e21 joules/5953.94271376=5.0508868e17 joules or 120.716195 megatons (Mountain level)

This is wrong, recalced below.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Well those numbers are lower then suturs death assuming these are accurate I have no problem with them.

 

[Dino_W]

Wait, I forgot to scale down the speed of the rings.

Spino calced the speed of the rings at either 916.89 m/s or 385.5 m/s. These should be divided by 18.1245910915, as they are also derived from the size of the neutron star.

916.89 m/s/18.1245910915=50.5881758 m/s

385.5 m/s/18.1245910915=21.2694454 m/s

Mass of the rings.

4.0471893e16kg/5953.94271376=6.79749453e12 kg

Higher-End KE

(6.79749453e12kg)*(50.5881758m/s)^2*.5=8.6979501e15 joules or 2.07881006216 megatons (Small City level)

Lower-End KE

(6.79749453e12kg)*(21.2694454m/s)^2*.5=1.5375569e+15 joules or 367.476104358 kilotons (Large Town level)

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Biggest oof

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

I know anime fans are celebrating right now......

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

As an anime fan slight offense (Ainz already soloed most of the mcu speed equal)

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Didn't he get stomped by Thanos??