MCU CRT Vol 4: Endgame.

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

No it was incon iirc, at the time thanos had to snap and ainz had to raise his hand...Ainz now has thought based death hax so....

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Poor Thanos, he gets stomped by virtually everyone on the wiki

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Eh he always had problem with hax based characters, mostly because he needs to close his fist to do anything and the stones don't offer much in the way of passive resistances.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Thanos is one of the weakest tier 5's on the site and it's sad

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Well now he's liable to become a decently strong tier 7...

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

He dropped 1 WHOLE TIER! Thanks to needing "accuracy"

 

[Newendigo]

Blue@ What did I told about Thanos and anime several days ago?

Also yeah, big oof.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

It was actually several weeks ago

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

I'll rephrase it then.

MARVEL HATERS are having a field day

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

We still need to wait for everyone to agree on this calc to put them into irrelevance

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

There's the WoG statement that it's a size of a small moon but I guess that cannot be used. RIP

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

The rings should be assumed to be the size of a small moon due to WoG, I don't think we should use the rings which change between shots

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

The rings should be assumed to be the size of a small moon due to WoG, I don't think we should use the rings which change between shots

last desperate attempt

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Yeah that word of god came from an art director iirc and it doesn't line up with what we see in the actual scenes with the star so...See any problem with the calc? If not we can throw it in a blog and be done with this

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Art directors help design the shots so they have knowledge on how large it was supposed to be

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Honestly if you want to use the wog statement and the rings are so inconsistent we could throw the feat out all together for its lack of consistency, same way we did with the actual laser. We don't take word of god over whats actually shown in the movie. We're not taking the words of a single art director over what we see.

This value lines up with all the other solid calcs in the mcu, this value lines up with suturs death and everything else we have in the mcu why would we take a shaky word of god that leads to an outlier rather then the accepted size of the star that gives us a value that makes sense with all the other feats we have?

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Because I don'w want an irrelevant as hell MCU which gets ******* on by fodder of every relevant/popular verse

Anyway, rant besides, Real reason is that I think the values seem a bit off and the rings are too small since we got a WoG from someone who is knowledgable on how large the rings are

Most of the tier 7 feats are casual anyway, so this wouldn't be an outlier

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

There's another scene where Thor is a dot compared to Iris while Iris is barely visible when compared to the rings. Can we scale from that instead?

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Except suturs death? Except all the times the cast has been knocked around by teir seven feats. Despite nothing else in the entire mcu equaling up to this feats orginal calc?

Im done with this, we have a value that makes sense and you want to use the words or an art director (Whose exact statement was it was meant to be the size of a small moon, which leave ambiguity) over what we actually see.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Um no,

Let's review with the tier 7 IW feats:

Neutron Star: Unusable

Meteor: Iron Man was unfased

Storm: Casual

Anyway, many verses (ANIME verses especially), which can get massive rises in tiers due to 1 feat, having the MCU cast jumping a few tiers isn't an outlier

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

For the record their are sixteen credited art directors who worked on end game...

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

This is IW anyway

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

My bad exhausted at the moment there are fifteen credited art directors involved in infinity war

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

There's another scene where Thor is a dot compared to Iris while Iris is barely visible when compared to the rings. Can we scale from that instead?

Maybe, I have no idea, if you can pixel scale it go for it, though if the value is above the previous two Im going to have to stand against it.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

You REALLY are against a strong MCU it seems.

Anyway, let's 1st wait for his calc, and the calc members decide on which one is usable

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Im not against a strong mcu, Im against using word of god from a single (Of fifteen) art director that doesn't line up with what we see. Further Im against one feat scaling a verse that seems comfortably tier 7 scaling above a feat that obliterated a top tier. (Surturs death) Ill be against it if it's larger then the original calc, If its in the middle no problem with it and if it matches the orignal calc thats some decen consistency.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

That was High 6-C anyway, if the calc is 7-A I doubt that would be an outlier since we have no anti-feats for that

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

If it's 7a (Heck see my response to spinos original recalc) no problem with it, Im only going to take issue if we get something above the original calc (Or still above sutur's feat)

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I'm at school atm but here are the shots

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

I have no knowledge of pixel scaling but Id like to point out the art department said the size of a small moon, smallest of moons is around 700 meters in diameter so the current size rating works in conjunction with the art departments words.

 

[Newendigo]

Wait, I forgot to scale down the speed of the rings.
Spino calced the speed of the rings at either 916.89 m/s or 385.5 m/s. These should be divided by 18.1245910915, as they are also derived from the size of the neutron star.

916.89 m/s/18.1245910915=50.5881758 m/s

385.5 m/s/18.1245910915=21.2694454 m/s

Mass of the rings.

4.0471893e16kg/5953.94271376=6.79749453e12 kg

Higher-End KE

(6.79749453e12kg)*(50.5881758m/s)^2*.5=8.6979501e15 joules or 2.07881006216 megatons (Small City level)

Lower-End KE

(6.79749453e12kg)*(21.2694454m/s)^2*.5=1.5375569e+15 joules or 367.476104358 kilotons (Large Town level)

Can you add those calcs and Asura's recalc to your blog? I advice you to separate them with "Pre-IW" and "Post-IW" calcs.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Spino may recalc it

 

[Newendigo]

Those shots are concept art because I don't recall them in the movie?

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Just re-watched the scene cant find those two frames...Anywhere, I think they're concept art or deleted scenes? The shots when thor makes the hammer and moves the rings never give us these images unless I somehow missed them.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

I see the second one, and the 1st one, problem is that thor wasn't in the 1st shot, he was still forging stormbreaker

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Can you give a timestamp for the second one? I see something close to that image but it zooms in before the laser reaches the point shown in the image and is at a slightly different angle. First one Im sure doesn't appear.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

It DOES, but we can't scale it to Thor

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Im sure it does just curios on when since I seemed to miss it (Im aware the image is useless for scaling purposes)

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Yep:

Here on 3:04

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Oops, wrong image, yeah I don't see image 1 in the movie it self