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well from what ik fusing 2 completely different space-time continiums is a 4-D feat so it sort of scales to AP/durability but they have to be universal which the demon world and human world are both universalSpecN said:[It's good to be back, how are you guys?]
Anyway, there's something I don't quite get here, I feel like this is being overlooked, but, let's say that Mundus is indeed capable of merging two universes, how does this translate to stats such as durability / attack potency / destructive capacity?
Space-time manipulation feats do not translate to attack potency or durability, because it's hax, should we say that characters who are capable of slicing a continent in half thanks to having the ability to cut space-time have large country level durability/attack potency? No, because hax is unrelated to stats, Mundus' power of being able to, allegedly, fuse 2 space-time continuums falls directly under space-time manipulation. And he is not the first demon to show it. According to Austrian-Man-Meat there is a demon capable of interdimensional travel, which is a form of space-time manipulation.
A space-time continuum, like another user mentioned here, can have any sort of size. If I fuse two room-sized space-time continuums do I count as multi room-level? No, I obviously do not.
If this was true, I firmly believe that this should count as reality warping and nothing more, it should not count towards any stats.
The thing with the pocket dimension, I will discuss later if I get the chance.
Yes.SpecN said:Unfortunately, no-one did, the main point of argument in the thread was whether "world" meant "universe".
i think you miss understood me ik i didn't mean that mundus merged 2 space-time continiumms forcfully and made both time synconized unlike before and sparda forcefully sepereated them those examples are not because diavolo affected the universe true put erased time and didn't effect 2 universe time continiumms johnny's range is multi-universal because he can follow valentine anywhere but i never effected the space-time continiumm of the other universesSpecN said:@TISSG7Redgrave
My friend, I cannot agree with that. Being able to affect space and time to varying degrees, regardless of range, is a 4-dimensional power, but that doesn't mean the person using said power is a 4-dimensional entity.
For example, look at Diavolo, he can erase time on a planetary scale at the very least, does that mean he is a 4-dimensional entity? No. Why? Because it's hax.
Johnny Joestar's Tusk Act 4 can outright shred through dimensional walls and effect people existing in separate dimensions. 4-dimensional power? Yes. 4-dimensional entity? No. Why? Hax.
And the list goes on.
Hax and stats have alwasy been separate, what one needs to do in order to prove that Mundus is a 4-dimensional entity is if he transcends space, which he clearly does not.
i still find it funny that it went from MSS discussion to universal+ discussion lolPietro Maximoff said:Didn't the OP say he created the dimensions that houses the stars? That should warrant for a MSS rating if nothing controdicts it..
Anyway, Ant what do you think?
But it could mean the fireballs were strong enough to hurt him because those were sparda's powers and mundus was sealed by jackpot not killed after mundus ripped a hole through the human world to chase dante he took all his attacks and said they were weak so it seems dante in DMC 1 couldn't trully damage him until he had his fathers powers but that changed in DMC 2 when Dante full mastered his powers and surpassed spardaAntvasima said:Well, in case Mundus was defeated by fireballs and bullets, in case he truly merged the entire two universes, rather than opened a comparatively tiny Earth-sized portal between them, and the manga that the above scans were taken from indeed is confirmed canon, then he seems to be a massive glass cannon in the vein of Haruhi Suzumiya or James Jaspers, and not be able to use anywhere near Low 2-C power as practical Attack Potency.