Majin Dante,Mundus and Sparda Upgrades

[Austrian-Man-Meat]

Okay let me show you the feats again and current arguments..












Alright so basically The World was born from Darkness. The very first thing we learn from this is that The Demon World was the very first thing to be created. It's size is atleast that of a universe due to the second scan saying this " Endless darkness. A container of chaos" And perhaps its even bigger due to the crap ton of realms+dimensions that reside within the Demon World itself. A example of this is how each time you enter the Demon World in every game the design is always different. Far to many dimensions and such. You even need to bend space/time to enter them.

The second scan tells us that even within this void of darkness there was a line of light which was present within. We then come to learn that this light is our world. The Human World. And that after a set amount of time it just happned to seperate away from the Demon World and had its own space/time continuum. Now the size of the Human World is smaller than than that of the Demon World as shown in the second scan. But now what is small compared to the Demon World? A universe which is able to house a shit ton of realms and dimensions within it possibly making it much bigger than we think? And when you factor in that The Human world is just a representation of our universe then the size difference begins to make sense. Even the physical laws in the demon world are odd and bizzare. Such as inverted gravity and so on. And with the Demon World being a Universe I believe that in the scale of things "World" can also mean Universe too.

Mundus then does his merging thing ma bob and succesfully manages to merge the two together. Making them one again. The result of this is horrific with the demons running amuk and killing innocent humans until Sparda step in, kicks everyones ass and then manages to seperate the Demon World again. Restoring peace back to us.

Another thing to take note of is the Genesis inspired text of a shinning glimmer of light which later becomes to expand and becomes a Universe which manages to house Humans and so on.

There is far too much showing this feat to be Universal+

tldr : Worlds are not just Earths,Demon World is significantly bigger to Human World due to realms+dimensions and all but it does not just class Human World as Earth from that basis alone.

This is your proof Mascot.

Also Mundus did happen to merge both Space/time continuums into one. When he done it he allowed his army which are the dephs of the dark to completely swallow up the remanants of light (living life) they see upon The Human world. This could include practically anything tbh.

Also Sparda had to seperate both continuums again via his own power and such.

Nothing was stated about Mundus opening up rifts at all. He simply merged them together

 

[Mascotman]

It fake stars.

3:50 the flew up and reached only atmosphere meaning they were somewhere below.

You cannot fly from space to another planet from tthe inside.

When Mundus took Dante down with meteorites Dante there was stars just ground.

 

[Mascotman]

This is your proof Mascot.

Also Mundus did happen to merge both Space/time continuums into one. When he done it he allowed his army which are the dephs of the dark to completely swallow up the remanants of light (living life) they see upon The Human world. This could include practically anything tbh.

Also Sparda had to seperate both continuums again via his own power and such.

Nothing was stated about Mundus opening up rifts at all. He simply merged them together

There isn't statements about Mundus's megining either.

The darkness - the demon world itself.

Mundus opened hell gates and Demon world began to expand its own territory.

Again not Mundus's feat

 

[Austrian-Man-Meat]

Am waiting for any Admin feedback on this matter now.

The subject of the size of the Worlds being merged have been resolved etc.

 

[Mascotman]

Also there is stated that "humans are weak against the power of demons of darkness" so Mundus wasn't alone.

Also where is proof that manga canon?

 

[Austrian-Man-Meat]

Also there is stated that "humans are weak against the power of demons of darkness" so Mundus wasn't alone.
Also where is proof that manga canon?

Does not contradict anything within the lore of DMC like previous non canon mangas.

Such as the Gilver ones.

 

[Mascotman]

Yes, Admin will decide who's right.

 

[Mascotman]

oes not contradict anything within the lore of DMC like previous non canon mangas

In game Dante needs rebellion wo activate his demon side while in manga he transformed in demon without it so it's most like non-canon

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

to be frank mundus by the end of DMC 1 can breach the human world easily so he doesn't need a hell gate.....

 

[Mascotman]

Like all demons on his island?

Dosen't prove anything tbh

 

[Austrian-Man-Meat]

oes not contradict anything within the lore of DMC like previous non canon mangas
In game Dante needs rebellion wo activate his demon side while in manga he transformed in demon without it so it's most like non-canon

It was sanctioned by Capcom iirc. So there is that.

Also he transformed into his Majin from. Which activated as soon as he reached near death via Alice being close to eating/destryoing his soul.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

mundus allowed them access to the human world he was still beaten up and can go through another space-time continiumm easily and he did succed in merging just sparda managed to beat him and seperated them again

 

[Mascotman]

It was sanctioned by Capcom iirc. So there is that.

But still it can be as parallel story

Also he transformed into his Majin from

Dosen't matter.

It works only in dmc2 when Dante mastered his demon side.

While here he isn't even activated it

 

[Kingrandy7]

Also even if that one little thing did contadict something it doesnt mean the entire thing is non canon. if we went by that logic then none of the metal gear solid games would be canon

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

It was sanctioned by Capcom iirc. So there is that.
But still it can be as parallel story

Also he transformed into his Majin from

Dosen't matter.

It works only in dmc2 when Dante mastered his demon side.

While here he isn't even activated it

Dante wasn't full aware so he didn't realize it. The majin form was mastered by dmc 2 true but it protects Dante from absolute near death

 

[Mascotman]

if we went by that logic then none of the metal gear solid games would be cano

It's main canon so lore can be slighty changed.

There is another story

 

[Mascotman]

Dante wasn't full aware so he didn't realize it.

And what?

The majin form was mastered by dmc 2 true but it protects Dante from absolute near death

By your logic Dante should be transformed into Majin after battle with Vergil but this didn't happened because he isn't activated his Demon side yet

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

rebellion fully activated his demonic side as his blood on rebellion unleashed it

 

[Mascotman]

Yes and only after that he was able use Majin form

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

Yes and only after that he was able use Majin form

he was able to make full use of majin in dmc 2 but we aren't talking about his transformations we should stay on topic about the upgrades not on when he can transform

 

[Mascotman]

should stay on topic about the upgrades not on when he can transform

This proves that Mundus didn't anything.

Stars already disproved

 

[Kingrandy7]

Mascotman, unless im reading it wrong u seem to have created your account today just for this thread so this series must be important to you as it is to me, I love the series and playing the games making combo clips etc. Since u havnt really metioned it if at all, what all do you agree with in this thread ?.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

should stay on topic about the upgrades not on when he can transform
This proves that Mundus didn't anything.

Stars already disproved

The stars haven't been disproved at all.....

 

[Mascotman]

Yes. I love DMC and completed 1,3,4.

I just don't like when people trying to overstimate/understimate characters

 

[Mascotman]

I think Bayo should be upgraded too since she defeated creator of three realities

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

i played all the games man (except reboot wanted too try but can't ;_ I remember mundus made the dimension by flapping his wings and did a lot of crazy by merging the unverses as they were with the space-time continiumm

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

I think Bayo should be upgraded too since she defeated creator of three realities

that dude was killed by the sun.....

 

[Mascotman]

The stars haven't been disproved at all.

Man, argumets like "his dimension can do whatever he want" aren't working in that way.

Not to mention that Mundus probably didn't created anything since it's not stated

 

[Mascotman]

that dude was killed by the sun.....

He wasn't killed if i remember correctly.

And Mundus was defeated by fireballs and bullets so...

I remember mundus made the dimension by flapping his wings and did a lot of crazy by merging the unverses as they were with the space-time continiumm

But there is no proof ma

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

The stars haven't been disproved at all.
Man, argumets like "his dimension can do whatever he want" aren't working in that way.

Not to mention that Mundus probably didn't created anything since it's not stated

he did say that he can create whatever he wants and this isn't simple teleporting if not they wouldn't land back at the palace halls because if he teleported Dante would be stuck at the place but came back to the hall he started in meaning the dimension collapsed and Dante managed to return

 

[Mascotman]

he did say that he can create whatever he wants

Sounds like hyperbole

if he teleported Dante would be stuck at the place but came back to the hall he started in meaning the dimension collapsed and Dante managed to retur

Well Dante can teleport back since he has power of Sparda who was nearly equal to Mundus

 

[Mascotman]

But even if not.

It will be dimension of unknown size with pseudo-stars

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

that dude was killed by the sun.....
He wasn't killed if i remember correctly.

And Mundus was defeated by fireballs and bullets so...

I remember mundus made the dimension by flapping his wings and did a lot of crazy by merging the unverses as they were with the space-time continiumm

But there is no proof ma

Mundus was sealed by Jackpot thats different plus those fireballs are strong enough to damage mundus jubelius from what i saw was fried by the sun but can survive crashing through any planet in the solar system. The proof was that the manga iirc mentions mundus succedded in doing the merge. I'm gonna continue this some other time busy right now....

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

he did say that he can create whatever he wants
Sounds like hyperbole

if he teleported Dante would be stuck at the place but came back to the hall he started in meaning the dimension collapsed and Dante managed to retur

Well Dante can teleport back since he has power of Sparda who was nearly equal to Mundus

Dante didn't teleport.... he just landed back safetly mundus created tons of demons so i don't see if he can't create the demons or the stars around him

 

[Kingrandy7]

Guys, we have already been over this a good ways up the thread. lets chill. Me, man meat and a few others a while ago have already made well made and accepted points with other accepted counter points to ours and back and forth etc. Just chill and wait for the admins. not much left to do. we already covered the main/important stuff. A lot of us have already agreed on a few upgrades, so just let the admins check them out.

 

[Mascotman]

those fireballs are strong enough to damage mundus

Didn't say something man

Mundus was sealed by Jackpot thats different

Yes, Mundus can block/dodge bullet...

The proof was that the manga iirc mentions mundus succedded in doing the merge.

It's probably non-canon and even in manga it was stated that it was entire demon world.

And in manga they're only defeated humans so still nothing

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

Guys, we have already been over this a good ways above. lets chill. Me, man meat and a few others a while ago have already made well made and accepted points with other accepted counter points to ours and back and forth etc. Just chill and wait for the admins. not much left to do. we already covered the main/important stuff.

ik just pointing out but seriously i need to take a break cause i need to do stuff so yeah will continue some other time

 

[Mascotman]

Ok i will wait admin then

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

those fireballs are strong enough to damage mundus

Didn't say something man

Mundus was sealed by Jackpot thats different

Yes, Mundus can block/dodge bullet...

The proof was that the manga iirc mentions mundus succedded in doing the merge.

It's probably non-canon and even in manga it was stated that it was entire demon world.

And in manga they're only defeated humans so still nothing

http://devilmaycry.wikia.com/wiki/Devil_May_Cry_Wiki:Canonicity

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

those fireballs are strong enough to damage mundus

Didn't say something man

Mundus was sealed by Jackpot thats different

Yes, Mundus can block/dodge bullet...

The proof was that the manga iirc mentions mundus succedded in doing the merge.

It's probably non-canon and even in manga it was stated that it was entire demon world.

And in manga they're only defeated humans so still nothing

http://devilmaycry.wikia.com/wiki/Devil_May_Cry_Wiki:Canonicity

ahh thx u m8