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Zelda has, like, 500 things she can use to elevate herself. It's not that deep dude
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Legend of Zelda General Discussion Thread
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Not indexing everything is why we dont have stuff like various immortalities on the Hero of Time, or even something as particularly useful as illusions or multiple resistances on TOTK.
Even the dinky ass rock at the start is like 2-3 tons.
Bro, do you not like, know how much rocks bigger than a person tend to weigh?
Even the dinky ass rock at the start is like 2-3 tons.
Dude do you not have the echo?
No they dont lmao what? You can literally spawn shit mid air, mid jump, and more. I literally have clips of dropping boulders on dudes and it killing them. Hell it's how I killed those pathblade dudes.
You're literally just wrong here.
Yeah, and everything else too because that's how the wiki works. Like dude, don't you find it odd how literally everyone is telling you we should index all the stuff, including dudes who don't even **** with Zelda?
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Except actually not true, most to tall for her to instantly jump on, the table is one of few she can hop on without expanding Link juice for the higher jump, but Link juice is an expendable resource, so why waste it just JUMPING on a box or boulder instead?
It's why it's used constantly in the actual game, whether it's elevation puzzles where you need to get higher up but with limited item uses as one in game use.
And it doesn't matter if it's deep, it's not only useful in some type of situation which means it should be listed regardless, but the fact she has it, means we list it, regardless.
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It's actually because they don't have them. You and many others here have been indexing OT for a long time.
No it is not bro. I have lifted rocks like that IRL.
It doesn't give you one.
The wall counts as ground.
This was in the same sentence as the last point so idk why you're pointing this out.
Yes, because of how much easier it is to move things along when we calm you down.
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Ignored me + lmaoing.
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Beds? Boulders? Pots?
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Got a cool note we can pop onto Echoes Zelda's profile when it gets made:
Note: We have not added all her echoes to the profile because we didn't feel like it
Note: We have not added all her echoes to the profile because we didn't feel like it
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It seems like any time I'm in a conversation you aren't far behind.
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Oh wow I guess the CRT im working just doesnt have these abilities because I spent 200 hours gathering everything, **** me I guess, not real.
You lifted rocks over half your height? I wasnt aware youre the strongest mf on the planet.
Oh so you just don't have it, got it.
I just clipped dropping a boulder on a ReDead and killed it.
Edit: Jumped off a trampoline, spawned one mid-air, and killed a lil fella.
Because you're literally just wrong, like actually, what are you yapping about? Do you even HAVE the game?
Odd, I'm pretty sure it's because we index shit whether you like it or not and everyone is telling you as much.
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Beds are bigger, minor difference but it can matter in tight gaps. Pots you cant stand on actually so you're just wrong, again, you can jump and hide in themtho so that's already a useful tidbit that seperates them and feeds into Zelda's stealth she has going on.
Edit: Oh neat she can hop while in them too to move, so yeah actual stealth stuff.
Edit 2: Can be tossed to damage foes so a last resort damage option, also it is stealth, some enemies won't notice you if you're in them.
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How can bro be so loud and wrong, if you don't like the work ya can always just leave than acting pretentious and adding nothing to the work we're doing. Ain't exactly like we'll be slowing down without you
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So you're deadass conceding that I am always right anytime I debate? Ok ig LOL.
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I'll be ecstatic the day you publish your research, then.
It's not a very big rock.
Right, because it doesn't give it to you.
I have never seen the trampoline have any utility, nor have I ever seen an enemy crushed by anything, they should walk and it falls the rest of the way to the ground.
It'd be hard to do Link's profile and also the Sword of Might's if I didn't have the game.
It isn't.
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Biggest Strawman Fallacy I've ever seen in my life
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Idk you seem like you said "I'm too scared to actually debate you" in different words ngl.
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Oh, you're trying to get a rise out of me. Yeah, I'm not like that anymore.
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I am more pissed at you dodging my initial question with Bill ngl.
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You say this as a joke.
Nah dog I still gotta sort 1941 clips alone for TOTK, shit gonna take awhile. That's ignoring what I've already sorted, and the fuckass huge OOT/MM one I'm working on.
You're literally wrong, it's over half height and as wide as she is tall. Stop spouting nonsense.
You're right, ya have to press ZR my dude, like with every other Echo?
Dude you NEED the trampoline to get some chests and heart pieces????
Good for you, I LITERALLY just did it, stop talking out of sheer ignorance.
It actually doesn't, if the enemy is small enough they even get trapped. They still also take damage, like, why yap?
Yeah at this point, I really don't think you should be doing it given, ya know, your lack of actually wanting to put in effort or even just making sure you actually check before you yap.
Oh so Dust, Dale, Strym telling as much, maybe even Imag, is to appease me in particular, opposed to just going "yeah nah dude, not how we do shit"?
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Don't brag about your collections if they're nowhere near completion.
Yes, and she is not very tall.
Yes, that's why I have so many echoes.
I'll give you a hint. The water cubes can reach just about anything in the game.
No, you said you did.
Every single time I've tried to crush something that doesn't happen.
Why not? They don't have echoes.
Literally yes. This shit has broken up friend groups in the past.
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No like how is this an argument.
Still funny how you didn't say anything about Bill btw. Gonna just tell you that making that profile the way it is now took time, a whole month was dedicates in getting all the new information from the new Book + Website, regardless of them being combat relevant or not, as we are an indexing site before all.
Like, we have even ""mundane"" things like:
Like combat-wise it means little to nothing, but contributes to the overall quality and info.
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Omg you are so miserable dude if you have nothing constructive to actually say then can ya just not speak here. Some of us are enjoying the game and actually care to index things in completion. So far you're just upset you've been wrong and were called out on the dumb shit ya said
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Honestly, that makes a lot more sense than tables.
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...you completely missed the point but ok.
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Uh, brag? Ok first off it is done, I just have to sort that shit out.
Second off, nah dude that's the type of shit we should be doing, not half assing profiles becaus eboo hoo it's to much effort to write a few lines of text.
Oh i wasn't aware you knew how tall she was, mind sharing?
And no, like, actually just stop. You're wrong, stop doubling down.
This shit, this puny rock, weighs well above whatever the hell you can lift. It is about half her height, and as wide as she is tall.
She's the same height as a teenaged Link, that's 5'2'', your ass is not lifting a 158cm x 80cm rock, just stop yapping.
Also that isn't the boulder fyi, but that is like, the smallest rock you can get and it's well beyond superhuman.
You literally just said you didn't have it dude.
And? Oh no Zelda is up against a dude who can manipulate water, now they're useless.
See the problem with just listing off what you think is useful?
Anyway here's me using the table, trampoline and boulder that apparently have zero use to crush a goon to death.
Uhm. Get good?
What?
Grow up I guess?
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We really traded tylo for another tylo
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Just calced it, got about 2840kg, or uh, 2-3 tons like I eyeballed it at 
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pfft I could lift that easyJust calced it, got about 2840kg, or uh, 2-3 tons like I eyeballed it at
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My grandma lifted that last weekJust calced it, got about 2840kg, or uh, 2-3 tons like I eyeballed it at
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WAIT
The fuckass AlttP blocks in this game, Im in the palace of darkness and we can see the blocks from a side perspective for the first time ever, theyre literally taller than Zelda. That's gonna like triple AlttP Link's LS without gauntlets.
The fuckass AlttP blocks in this game, Im in the palace of darkness and we can see the blocks from a side perspective for the first time ever, theyre literally taller than Zelda. That's gonna like triple AlttP Link's LS without gauntlets.
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Ugh, fine. I'll relent on the useless items thing. You can put any echo you want on her page, as long as it's sorted in a way that makes it bearable to read through.
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honestly though, havent heard anybody talk much about it (i havent really been looking tbh), but hearing u guys talk about it, im really excited to get it 
i need to get my money up and make sure everything is paid before spending $ on it. But I will be playing and I cant wait. ive always been positive of the game even when people were highkey ******** on it, so it's kiiiiinda funny to see the switch up on some ppl
i need to get my money up and make sure everything is paid before spending $ on it. But I will be playing and I cant wait. ive always been positive of the game even when people were highkey ******** on it, so it's kiiiiinda funny to see the switch up on some ppl
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Next Zelda game I really hope they add a favourites menu, loving the game but not a fan of every echo sharing only a single inventory bar to select them all from like with the items in TOTK
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Great news for Zelda and Link scaling.
The Ganon in the story is really Ganon.
Kinda.
Tri confirms in Still Hyrule Castle that the Ganon we see and fight in the story is an echo just like the same ones we make all the time.
This means that we are indeed essentially fighting a Triforceless LttP Ganon, as her monsters retain the real thing's exact AP and Durability.
This should scale to Zelda's Durability, her very strongest monsters (as Ganon can practically flick almost any of her monsters) Link, and the Sword of Might.
The Ganon in the story is really Ganon.
Kinda.
Tri confirms in Still Hyrule Castle that the Ganon we see and fight in the story is an echo just like the same ones we make all the time.
This means that we are indeed essentially fighting a Triforceless LttP Ganon, as her monsters retain the real thing's exact AP and Durability.
This should scale to Zelda's Durability, her very strongest monsters (as Ganon can practically flick almost any of her monsters) Link, and the Sword of Might.
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Lol. Might still be useful, but I'm pretty sure there's other infinite height stuff in this.
Also, seems like there's an invisible ceiling or such?
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Yeah if you go too high outside of certain areas the game just teleports you back to the last piece of solid ground you stood on
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Decent tier 8 feat for a mook. Might be the highest mook feat in the verse.
Edit: It's at least 8-B, just ran some values. Might be higher.
Edit 2: Another tier 8 fodder feat.
Edit: It's at least 8-B, just ran some values. Might be higher.
Edit 2: Another tier 8 fodder feat.
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Not a single mf cares about the scaling if it ain't for Zelda huh
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