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Kaguya! I've come to bargain!

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Kaguya wins if he does not use the time stone beforehand. Mind manipulation. AKAB. attacks through dimensional portals. Instant freezing. Telekinesis (not used much at all though. And can one shot him as long as he is has not blocked it with his shield. She can also prep ETSB during all this. Time stop is the real danger. Matter manipulation and transmutation does not work on her since she can change her own form. But he does not use it in character anyway(or at least does not seem combat applicable). She can see any of his attacks coming because of 359 degree vision and can predict peoples movements as well.

Kaguya 9.5/10.
 
Strange uses the time stone right away. That's the first thing he did when he faced Dormammu. So strange comes to bargain, or BFRs her, and calls it a day.
 
Theglassman12 said:
Strange uses the time stone right away. That's the first thing he did when he faced Dormammu. So strange comes to bargain, or BFRs her, and calls it a day.
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BFR the person that has dimensional travel????? BFR her where. That is because he knew how powerful Dormammu was he does not know that here. Or he would have done the same to Thanos as well if he does it first thing in every fight. Not to mention the time stone does not help him against genjutsu.
 
Yes it does, he gets eviserated all the time by Dormammu and still comes back. Just because Strange doesn't know who the person is it doesn't mean he's not gonna do anything to be cautious. He didn't use it on Thanos cause there was only one way he could win.
 
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Yes it does, he gets eviserated all the time by Dormammu and still comes back. Just because Strange doesn't know who the person is it doesn't mean he's not gonna do anything to be cautious. He didn't use it on Thanos cause there was only one way he could win.
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Eitherway it does not help him against mind manipulation IT takes it.
 
Theglassman12 said:
Yes it does. Infinite time loop causes Kaguya to be trapped forever until she gives up.
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No it does not. It is literally only infinite if he is killed as far as I can tell. She can cause him to turn it off anyway via mind manupualtion.
 
Strange gets one shotted by shockwaves.Also,note that it is Infinity War Strange for some reasons he didn't use time manipulation against Thanos,he would not use it against her,at least before he gets rekt.
 
Theglassman12 said:
Yes it does. Infinite time loop causes Kaguya to be trapped forever until she gives up.
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Has timeloop ubdone anything other than dying? Does Strange even have prep to do so?
 
@Dzhind He didn't use it on Thanos cause it would cause him to lose. Did you not watch the movie at all?
 
@Light yes he does. He can look into millions of possible outcomes to see how he wins against her.
 
@Dz. He didn't use it against Thanos because of the fact that every action he took had to go towards that one instance where they emerge victorious.

@Rocker. Because using it on a planet and using it on a single person are two different situations where two different actions can be taken. If you nuked a city as soon as you got access, would you use another one right away if you were fighting Bruce Lee?
 
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@Light yes he does. He can look into millions of possible outcomes to see how he wins against her.
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Only with prep which he does not have. You think she would sit there while he does that?

Also she has mind manipulated an entire planet.
 
The real cal howard said:
@Dz. He didn't use it against Thanos because of the fact that every action he took had to go towards that one instance where they emerge victorious.
@Rocker. Because using it on a planet and using it on a single person are two different situations where two different actions can be taken. If you nuked a city as soon as you got access, would you use another one right away if you were fighting Bruce Lee?
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If my nuke was a sure win then yes for sure. The reason she has not used it in a 1v1 is because the people she fought all had ways to break out.

Sasuke - rinnengan.

Naruto so6p and tailed beasts.

Sakura - no way but had help.

Kakashi - no way but had help. later dms.

Obito - dms and so6p.

Also in the anime she used it first thing against Hamura to force him to fight Hagoromo.
 
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No it does not, Strange will find a future to win against Kaguya and utilize it to his fullest advantage.
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Strange does not have prep. Tell me when he would have the time to do this.
 
Strange's feat was only "prep" because he looked through 14 billion to get a winning outcome. It won't take that long for him to find an instance where he splatters her due to her durability, does what he did to Loki, or turns her into butterflies.
 
>anime

Non-canon

And if she really wanted to use it, she could focus her genjutsu into those people, because none of them have the resistance to a concentrated IT rather than one over the planet.
 
The real cal howard said:
Strange's feat was only "prep" because he looked through 14 billion to get a winning outcome. It won't take that long for him to find an instance where he splatters her due to her durability, does what he did to Loki, or turns her into butterflies.
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What he did to Loki is useless she can make her own gateway.

And he has never ever turned anyoen into butterflies the only one you are rigth about is splattering her. But with all her ways of seeing any of his attacks that is extremely doubtful to ever work.
 
So could Loki. He only needs to shout "Take me back!", but that wouldn't work. And t would've worked on Thanos (who had the space gem) had he not shattered the portal.
 
The real cal howard said:
So could Loki. He only needs to shout "Take me back!", but that wouldn't work. And t would've worked on Thanos (who had the space gem) had he not shattered the portal.
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??? How does that prove anything. For all we know it could be PIS we dont know if he ever shouted take me back.Not to mention he did not want to be back he needed to see Odin. Nothing stops her from making her own portal. Sorry but that is a bad argument with zero context behind it..
 
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@Rocker he teleports away and meditates to find a solution to win.
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And she teleports right after him. Not to mention he still does not do that incharacter and only did it against thanos becuase he did not know if they could win.
 
Ignore that backstory.It is a filler. Why Kaguya wins imo. 1.Magic is easily avoidable. 2.Time manipulation?She will use genjutsu and force him to turn it off. 3.She can also BFR,and now are you sure that strange can teleport from different space-time? 4.He can not transmute people,at least he didn't show this. 5.Gets one shotted by anything. 6.Kaguya can just switch to ice dimension and freeze him,or switch to lava dimension,Strange is not going to survive something like this,the whole planet is filled with lava. Kaguya can always find a way out with her 5 dimensions.
 
Sure,high temperature is a problem,you know,the whole planet is filled with lava.

Strange can do whatever he wants if he gets BFRd,he will still not be able to escape from different space-time.
 
Gargoyle One said:
I will say if Kaguya BFRs Strange he'll have time to view futures.
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Which is uselss since he can not come back honestly we have debunked all Strange votes.. No matter how many futures he views it would be him stuck in a dimension.
 
Theglassman12 said:
Strange uses the time stone right away. That's the first thing he did when he faced Dormammu. So strange comes to bargain, or BFRs her, and calls it a day.
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He more prepped to fight Dormammu with a timeloop.
 
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