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How to make Bleach fans stop wanking

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Outside of the VS battle wiki scaling, Bleach lightspeed cero meta is a pretty big thing, and that scales fodder Sub Shini arc Ichigo and exhausted, literally Reiatsu drained and/or off guard lieutenants to anything from relativistic to FTL in the early arcs

There's alot of evidence supporting lightspeed/FTL Bleach scaling metas between the actual manga, guides, and canon novels, but if you're arguing with the people using VS Battle wiki standards than Aizen would be slower

The main counter argument outside of not fitting VS Battle wiki standards for light (aka outside of the site) is Gin's Bankai statements
 
Gin's Bankai statements aren't inherent contradictions either, you can argue semantics and equal interpretation
 
What even is this thread lmfao. Aizen can't even destroy a small hill so he's not even small hill level. Any Asta or captain easily solos obviously. Aizen is wall level fodder.
 
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Hill level is very highball too! They can be damaged by just swords which obviously only makes them sword level.
 
Outside of the VS battle wiki scaling, Bleach lightspeed cero meta is a pretty big thing, and that scales fodder Sub Shini arc Ichigo and exhausted, literally Reiatsu drained and/or off guard lieutenants to anything from relativistic to FTL in the early arcs

There's alot of evidence supporting lightspeed/FTL Bleach scaling metas between the actual manga, guides, and canon novels, but if you're arguing with the people using VS Battle wiki standards than Aizen would be slower

The main counter argument outside of not fitting VS Battle wiki standards for light (aka outside of the site) is Gin's Bankai statements
If Kubo intended for Bleach to be FTL then he wouldn't have wrote Gin's bankai to be mach500
 
i wonder if bleach finna be in kingdom hearts


gotta put bleach on that disney page fr
Eh, do you see us inserting Fortnite in it just because it has Marvel and Star Wars? No? Yeah...

half of the hax shouldn't work against soulless, since everything even non-organic matter has a soul in bleach
That sure has interesting plot connotations in KH, Heartless (the main enemy type in the series) explicitly don't have a soul.
 
Then again, going by this, if Kubo didn't want Bleach to be FTL he wouldn't have written that Ceros and Negación were made of light
That can be simply explained as Kubo didn't think about the consequences of attacks being made of light which basically means they're outliers. On the other hand Gin's ability being Mach 500 is something Kubo is totally aware since he explicitly wrote its exact speed.
 
That can be simply explained as Kubo didn't think about the consequences of attacks being made of light which basically means they're outliers. On the other hand Gin's ability being Mach 500 is something Kubo is totally aware since he explicitly wrote its exact speed.
The same thing can be said the other way around can't it?

"Kubo didn't think about the consequences of making a Bankai that moves slower than light right after he showed people dodging attacks made of light since he specifically stated their composition, it was something he was aware of because he wrote it inside his data booklet"

Edit: Also, characters have been consistently dodging ceros and other light constructs since the start of the series, if anything Gin's Bankai is an outlier since it was shown way less.
 
The same thing can be said the other way around can't it?

"Kubo didn't think about the consequences of making a Bankai that moves slower than light right after he showed people dodging attacks made of light since he specifically stated their composition, it was something he was aware of because he wrote it inside his data booklet"

Edit: Also, characters have been consistently dodging ceros and other light constructs since the start of the series, if anything Gin's Bankai is an outlier since it was shown way less.
Kubo never states all of those light based abilities are lightspeed and since they can become faster it also means they can become slower too so you can't argue their lightspeed.
 
Kubo never states all of those light based abilities are lightspeed and since they can become faster it also means they can become slower too so you can't argue their lightspeed.

They are stated to be made of light and Negacion outtight calls it a beam of light. Saying light doesn't move at the speed of light seems incorrect. The databook uses the word light 3 times.

And feats + Databooklet > one statement
 
They are stated to be made of light and Negacion outtight calls it a beam of light. Saying light doesn't move at the speed of light seems incorrect. The databook uses the word light 3 times.

And feats + Databooklet > one statement
Being made of light=/= lightspeed.

Ceros can become faster so saying light can move faster than light seems incorrect.

Fortunately we have a much more concrete speed feat in the form of Gin's statement.
 
There's this thread ir r/bleach that is asking how the Black Clover captains would fare against Shinigami Aizen, I'm being downvoted to hell because I'm simply stating the fact that BC Captains are hilariously faster than that version of Aizen.

Someone have some tips to convince the w*nkers?
First step: Tell them your arguments
Second step: Heard their arguments/Response to your arguments
Third step: If you can continue arguing until you reach a common conclusion, great! If you can't, no matter what you both say, stop arguing, because you'll just lose time.
 
Being made of light=/= lightspeed.

Ceros can become faster so saying light can move faster than light seems incorrect.

Fortunately we have a much more concrete speed feat in the form of Gin's statement.
Ok, that is a fair argument. Except Gin is the worst source for his own ability. All his dialogs about his Bankai were lies in one way or another. He is literally the worst source.

As for your previous statements, saying a Ray of light doesn't move at lightspeed is incorrect. I grant you the Cero, but Negacion is(in the Databooklet) stated to be a "Ray of light"
 
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