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The physical body doesn’t matter for reiatsu. That’s why Yammy’s reiatsu affects Tatsuki’s soul without bothering with her body.
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First out of many Bleach Vs OP
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But they still have to hit the person in the first place. Even if they are bypassing the body. Also that is reiatsu crush which doesnt have an attack medium (like a GRC). It's like of you lunch a person's soul but to do that you still need to hit the person.
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That’s what GRC is for. It nukes tens of km in its blast radius bare minimum, just see how CO scrapes the canopy of LN by accident and destroys a third of it. I don’t think I have argued anything besides a giant aoe reiatsu attack.
RC does have a medium though? It’s called the omnidirectional force released by simply existing. Reiatsu based attacks are just a lot more of that same energy stuffed into a ball and thrown at the enemy.
Small country sized nuke.
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Wait, i thought 6-B OP is gone now?
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Never was. Idk where you get that idea from?
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I remember they got downgraded to 6-C
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Perhaps, you are misremembering things. Also.... Luffy, Zoro and Sanji (as well the characters who scale to them) are 6-C how does that make any sense to downgrade the High tiers to 6-C?
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So the god tiers didn't got downgraded to 6-C? Not every of them?
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Nope. Nothing has changed. The two Shima Yurashi are 6-B feats, including Oldbeard's Kashin feat. On top of that Kaido vs Big mom feat (the biggest low-ball/downgrade would be low-country lvl, but 6-C is very unlikely since Kaido literally lifted an entire island with his body)
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I'm so confused, then how about the current 6-C OP?
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Currently only the Mid-Tier Characters are 6-C
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Only mid-tiers, getcha then
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You are welcome
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It wouldn't hurt them unless the true body is there for it to be hit
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I think Grimm takes this with large AoE attacks which come with default soul hax. Logia isn't phasing through that.
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Can Aokiji just, idk... block it?
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depends on how he is blocking it, since contact with blast would....ya know touch the soul anyway.
if its barrier based....like a energy barrier...than yeah it can be tanked as long as it doesn't touch the body.
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He makes a wall of ice
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so kuzan scales to 14 TT
and Grimm scales to this??
and Grimm scales to this??
- Cero is an order of magnitude lower than Cero Oscuras - 3.366 Teratons (Small Country level)
- Gran Rey Cero - 7 Teratons (Country level)
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Only a 7.5x AP difference is required for a stomp, this isn’t stomp worthy yet
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I never implied its a stomp.....just that if the Aokigi can indefinitely keep re-inforcing his more durable defenses against Grimm, which entirely prevents soul hax from contact which is only major advantage.
The batlle shifts heavily in Aokigi's favour. Especially with precognition involved.
The batlle shifts heavily in Aokigi's favour. Especially with precognition involved.
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Okay so the 7 teraton calc is what Masked Ichigo no sells and R1 Grimm = Masked Ichigo. Grimm's GRC here is > 70 teratons
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Basic fodder tier hollows have quite literally been shown to ignore the physical body and interact with the soul at the beginning of the series. Sora did it to Orihime. Grimmjow has the ability to extract and consume souls on his profile. Plus, basically every Bleach character has the ability to attack souls directly. Its just, most characters they fight either are souls, have resistance to soul manipulation, or have souls as durable as their physical bodies so its one and the same. But that wouldn't be the case for people outside the verse. So both NPI and Soul Manipulation make it unlikely that Logia intangibility is what's gonna save Aokiji. His best bet is Observation Haki and armament to amp his AP.
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Aokiji starts with this...
How can grimmjow resist/counter against this?Looks like stomp
How can grimmjow resist/counter against this?
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Did he kill Doffy by freezing him solid or did he just in case him in ice?Aokiji starts with this...
How can grimmjow resist/counter against this?Looks like stomp
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Doffy didnt die and was able to break out.
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Doffy escaped...
Probably haki or doflamingo's strings because:
They can remain alive in a form of suspended animation for some time in their icy prison, but any decent hit will shatter them to pieces. If the ice is melted quickly and carefully the victim can return back to normal without any lasting repercussions.
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Hmmm? Can I understand logic for this?
Above calc puts GRC at 7 TT doesn't it?
How did you bump it to 70TT?
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So the 7 teraton GRC is for Grimmjow using it in base. Masked Bankai Ichigo slaps this aside by simply putting on his Mask and Resurrección Grimmjow starts the fight > Masked Bankai Ichigo before Ichigo amps over the course of the fight to being > Grimm. GRC is stated to be the most powerful Cero the Espada have which makes it > Cero Oscuras, stated to be x10 an Espada’s Cero. This means Grimm’s GRC in Resurrección would be > 70 teratons. Grimmjow also has Desgarron which is his own strongest attack so it is > GRC > CO.
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They were downgraded to 6-C and High 7-A, Kaido was High 7-A some months ago, but before it, he already was 6-B, then, downgraded to 6-C/High 7-A, but now, he is 6-B again
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Fair, in that case I don't see Aokiji's ice holding up to GRC at all. Grimm takes the advantage once again.
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But what is Grimmjow doing against this?
If he tries to break himself out by destroying it, he would shatter himself to pieces...
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How did Doffy break out? What is the actual canon explanation? No head canon explanations. Because base Grimmjow has been hit by Rukia’s ice which freezes people solid and he broke out in seconds.
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This is what vs battle wiki and one piece Fandom wiki say...
- They can remain alive in a form of suspended animation for some time in their icy prison, but any decent hit will shatter them to pieces. If the ice is melted quickly and carefully the victim can return back to normal without any lasting repercussions.
- Kuzan can quickly incapacitate enemies by freezing them solid on physical contact or from a distance by launching waves of ice,[53] and may even encase opponents in large spheres of ice to make escape even more difficult.[35] Aside from potentially suffering dangerous degrees of frostbite and hypothermia, those frozen by Kuzan are left in a very fragile state, as they body could be shattered by any kind of impact.[33][34][36][37][45] However, a person can be freed from the ice if they are thawed out properly and carefully.
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You completely ducked the first and most important half of the post, the canonical way Doffy escaped.
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So I presume not much difference compared to Rukia?
Sorry, I don't read manga, So anime is all I remember. I hope manga shows same.
So I think Grimmjow wouldn't even be affected in the first place.
Sorry, I don't read manga, So anime is all I remember. I hope manga shows same.
So I think Grimmjow wouldn't even be affected in the first place.
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Oh we don't fully know... Maybe haki or something... Could be his strings but he would need to move his finger so don't think it that
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