Deathly Decadence vs. Dazzling Defense: Queen the Plague and Diamond Jozu Face Off

[Kachon123]

Queen Weaknesses: Queen can become rather surprised easily, though this usually doesn't last long. He has a particular sweet tooth for oshiruko, and will fly into a rage should someone imply they will cut into his own supply of it, causing him to recklessly challenge an Emperor like Big Mom. Very arrogant and overconfident in his own abilities, especially regarding his Zoan and Cyborg powers, and will often underestimate the capabilities of his opponents. His Hybrid Form's mouth is the same as his human form's, and thus lacks his Zoan form's protective scales, something that Sanji exploited by kicking him in the mouth. Can become distracted in the middle of a fight, such as how his desire to punish an Oiran for rejecting his advances cost him his potential victory against Sanji by giving the latter both an opening and another motivation to defeat him. Furthermore, he possesses the standard Devil Fruit weaknesses

Now explain how any of these can be exploited by Jozu. Copy-pasting a paragraph does nothing.

 

[Darkvie123]

Now explain how any of these can be exploited by Jozu. Copy-pasting a paragraph does nothing.

You said Jozu had weaknesses being immobile. Nothing in the profiles says that. Jozu Brilliant Punks Queen's Mouth continuously

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Now explain how any of these can be exploited by Jozu. Copy-pasting a paragraph does nothing.

He can clock him in the mouth while he charges the laser, potentially ******* his jaw up.

 

[Kachon123]

He can clock him in the mouth while he charges the laser

Where is the charging in a "constant barrage of beams"?

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Where is the charging in a "constant barrage of beams"?

How do you think Marco and Sanji hit him while he was charging a laser?

 

[SlendVeny]

Where is the charging in a "constant barrage of beams"?

Does he open with that?

 

[Kachon123]

Does he open with that?

Yes.

 

[Kachon123]

How do you think Marco and Sanji hit him while he was charging a laser?

Those were Black Coffee Beams.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Those were Black Coffee Beams.

And?
He still has to charge em

 

[Darkvie123]

Do the Pacifista use Danmaku Lasers?

 

[Kachon123]

And?
He still has to charge em

Based on?

 

[Kachon123]

Do the Pacifista use Danmaku Lasers?

No

 

[Darkvie123]

No

Damn thats sad

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Based on?

Based on him having to charge them every time he uses them?

 

[Nierre]

Marco took the hits on purpose since he regens

and what about Z.

No it isn't.

Black Coffee beam has only been seen shot individually and by name.

Right. So Queen apparently has laser beams that not only can he SPAM, but is also the same speed as himself, and yet he always uses the slower beams and the ones that he can only shoot one at a time? Not only that but Sanji made ZERO indication of the speed difference, only that he can shoot the lasers continuously.

To me, that means that Queen can just shoot the lasers many times, not a completely different ability that ur trying to make it be. Which is why he says Franky would be interested in that because he can only shoot his lasers one at a time.

 

[SlendVeny]

Do the Pacifista use Danmaku Lasers?

Only when in large groups.

 

[SlendVeny]

and what about Z.

Not canon.

 

[Darkvie123]

and what about Z.

Right. So Queen apparently has laser beams that not only can he SPAM, but is also the same speed as himself, and yet he always uses the slower beams and the ones that he can only shoot one at a time? Not only that but Sanji made ZERO indication of the speed difference, only that he can shoot the lasers continuously.

To me, that means that Queen can just shoot the lasers many times, not a completely different ability that ur trying to make it be. Which is why he says Franky would be interested in that because he can only shoot his lasers one at a time.

Film Z isn't canon so it doesnt matter

 

[Nierre]

Not canon.

Film Z isn't canon so it doesnt matter

Valid

 

[Kachon123]

yet he always uses the slower beams and the ones that he can only shoot one at a time?

Uh, no. He's only used Black Coffee beams like 4 times. Once against Marco, once against Sanji, once against Chopper, and once against Hyogoro before he was interrupted.

Every other time against Sanji he was just spamming the other ones.

 

[Nierre]

Not true.

 

[Kachon123]

Not true.

Yeah, once against Sanji.

 

[SlendVeny]

Uh, no. He's only used Black Coffee beams like 4 times. Once against Marco, once against Sanji, once against Chopper, and once against Hyogoro before he was interrupted.

Those are like, all the fights

 

[Sus]

jozu is the ultimate shield of the whitebeard pirates
his dura is above undying thistle which blocked kizarus barrage of lasers
and above whitebeard whom kizaru couldnt fully melt

lasers aint doin shi

 

[Kachon123]

jozu is the ultimate shield of the whitebeard pirates
his dura is above undying thistle which blocked kizarus barrage of lasers
and above whitebeard whom kizaru couldnt fully melt

You realize that durability gets bypassed by durability negation, which is what lasers do... right?

 

[Nierre]

Yeah, once against Sanji.

Yeah? So why would he use a slower and worse ability against someone who clearly dodged the better version if it's not the same ability just him using it multiple times

Like I said, Sanji made 0 mention of the speed difference in either of the lasers, nor did he imply that when mentioning Franky either.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

All Kachon is doing is proving that Queen doesn't spam lasers very often..

 

[Sus]

You realize that durability gets bypassed by durability negation, which is what lasers do... right?

he is a better shield than them if they can block lasers so can he

 

[Nierre]

All Kachon is doing is proving that Queen doesn't spam lasers very often..

This is... also very ******* true lmao

Jozu FRA

 

[Kachon123]

Yeah? So why would he use a slower and worse ability against someone who clearly dodged the better version if it's not the same ability just him using it multiple times

Because Sanji was distracted? He wasn't even looking at him.

Like I said, Sanji made 0 mention of the speed difference in either of the lasers, nor did he imply that when mentioning Franky either.

I'm not sure why those are requirements.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

This is... also very ******* true lmao

Jozu FRA

I think it's 7-3 in Jozu's favor.

 

[Sus]

i think we have to wait a day tho
can we give attention to my match pwease

 

[Nierre]

Because Sanji was distracted? He wasn't even looking at him.

I'm not sure why those are requirements.

??? He's dodging danmaku that's FAR faster than the normal beams he usually shoots (according to you) why wouldn't he mention that?

What you're arguing literally takes a bigger assumption than my point. All Sanji says is that he makes a barrage of lasers. Black Coffee isnt stated to "only" be shot one at a time, clearly Queen's is a big deal especially since Sanji states that Franky would be interested in it.

 

[Fireld]

Jozu ~ Aokiji < Kizaru ~ Marco ~ Queen's Perceptions < Pre Exo DJ Sanji < Exo Base Sanji < Henry Queen

Jozu ~ Aokiji < Kizaru ~ Marco ~ Queen Perception ~ Base Exo Sanji < Henry Queen

Marco ~ Kizaru > Akainu ~ Aokiji ~ Jozu

So getting his kick blocked makes Marco about as fast as Kizaru?

 

[Nierre]

I think it's 7-3 in Jozu's favor.

8-3 rn it was 7 a few pages ago

No idea why these OP Matches last so long. It's actually so ******* ridiculous

 

[Nierre]

THE GUY WHO BLOCKED GOATHAWK'S SLASH FRA

Darkvie was 7 so grace started from here

 

[Sus]

i think we have to wait a day tho

 

[DaMonkeMan]

JOZU FANS STAND UP!!

 

[Sus]

next is vista

 

[Nierre]

Jozu inspired by Steve from Minecraft