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batman (and the other street tier DC characters) are the only reason DC win streaks end at all (well ,also Lobo,but his deathbattle was always iffy,if you ask me)
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Death Battle Season Seven Discussion Thread (19) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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Really? If that’s the case yeah Asura vs Kratos is pretty much a confirmed Stomp in Asura favor and there’s no point for it to happen
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Which would mean Leonardo, Batman, Wonder Woman, Tommy Oliver and Deadpool are out, going off this.
Place your bets, will it be a fourth Marvel street tier?
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Nah theyre justgonna have a batman battle royale hosted by bat-mite
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A friend of mine who played and read all related stuff for gow informed me greek mythos kratos is just tier 5 at best, the opening in ascension points tier 5 too, the only legitimate tier 3/2 stuff are in norse mythos with baldur and the serpent basically
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Funny too seeing as Kratos is supposed to be canonically weaker in the norse game than in the greek games
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He says there is literally nothing pointing out greek Kratos > norse Kratos at all and whoever decided that couldnt be more wrong
He also pointed the tree rating is bad too, especially the two keys
He also pointed the tree rating is bad too, especially the two keys
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Cory Barlog is the one who said it
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Speed wise he puts him MHS+, likely/possibly FTL, since Hercules actually blocks Helios light if you try it on him each time, but he is iffy as he thinks that can be just game mechanics
Last i seen him talk of speed he said he might try the Helios thing on Zeus too, in order to see if he does the same as Hercules
Last i seen him talk of speed he said he might try the Helios thing on Zeus too, in order to see if he does the same as Hercules
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Got the quote or link to it?
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yes Batman done at this point same with Wondy and Deadpool
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Looking for it but it may not matter as more recent quotes from him say that old kratos would beat young kratos without a doubt
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Ninjaed lol
But yeah seems he want back on that claim
But yeah seems he want back on that claim
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Then norse kratos > greek kratos since that says too
Greek era is tier 5, norse era tier 3/2
Greek era is tier 5, norse era tier 3/2
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lets see if we're gonna get good feats from Ragnarock this year
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Legit 2-C or even 2-B feats
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What tier is Rean in? We don’t really have a page for them nor am I familiar with them.
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Would we have him/her/it/them write a calculation and cosmology blog here?
Batman has Inspector gadget as a hand drawn battle and Moon Knight as a live action battle.
This is excluding 1966 Batman vs 1967 Spider-Man, Ninja Batman vs Toei Spider-Man and a lot more.
I have collected some feats for another character which Rean MAY scale from or even scale above. (thanks to another Trails expert) We may need some time to drag some Trails experts to calibrate a lot of things.
The only Trails feat blog here is horrible and is created by me who is not even a knowledgeable member in Trails.
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@The_Axiom_of_Virgo is there something that describe characters like Kratos/Dante etc where you could argue them being stronger in lore but there own on screen feats don't support it
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I don't get the question my dude (depending on the verse) lore is just as important as on screen feats plus the AoE fallacy/PiS tends to come to play here.
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Well I’m asking if there’s term that describe them
I know lore is important as well and ignoring the AOE crap and all but when it comes to guys like Hulk and Broly where they have Scaling/Blatant in your face type of feats where it’s much easier to buy them being that powerful where someone like Kratos doesn’t have that luxury
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Yeah it's called the "tell but no show fallacy" where folks assume if there isn't a visual feat that backs an in canon lore/statement/WoG it didn't happened or it's a "high-ball".
If we went by that train of thought most of our tier 1s would be downgraded to tier 2 or lower.
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A good example of that fallacy is most Pokédex entries. There are some that can be seen as legit, while others are not. It all just depends on other sources
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Since it's borderline confirmed that Shadow is coming back to fight Ryuko, I hope Mewtwo gets a second chance at the spotlight as well.
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im sorry know i know im derailing but could you guys help out with this question please if you're not busy.
https://vsbattles.com/threads/a-question-about-omniscience.111413/#post-3527531
https://vsbattles.com/threads/a-question-about-omniscience.111413/#post-3527531
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Only if it's for Mewtwo vs Starkiller
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not watching cause most debunks be utter garbage so list me the bullet points
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@EJthe24th I'm already seeing some higher dimensional scaling for Hulk in this video so I'm gonna assume that Chuck is arguing that Hulk wins right? It's not that I don't disagree I just don't watch Chuck's non DB videos much
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- They go over the mentions of how the macrocosms of the Marvel Multiverse and DB Multiverse and explain how bigger the former is through scans.
- They also explained more on Hulk's feats against strong multidimensional beings.
- How Broly should be potentially way faster than the Hulk nad should be way stronger than what was mentioned.
- They go through the dimension tiering puts Hulk on a whole other level that should solo the DB macrocosms.
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they are also using outlier because death battle used outliers and still said Broly would win usually splash (your favorite villain) said if it was up to him Hulk wouldn't have his outliers. Splash said that or (your favorite villain) on his channel
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@EJthe24th actually it seems Chuck is basing it off of using the Hulk's high end feats which he showed in the video since at the end he states that going by consistency and the power both characters show on a daily basis Broly would clap Hulk
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yeah they were using high ends because death battle was using high ends
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he ain't appearing
so less of a debunk just some clarification crap
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