Death Battle Season Nine Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[Derpmaster9000]

I mean wasn’t it outdated since GB vs RF? Like they literally had the multipliers for DB completely different

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Nah, even in later casts, Ben has made it clear he was proud of that episode, and believes the result to be accurate. Also, the speed feat stuff they gave Thor, in no way, was remotely implied in the episode to be something Hulk scales to. They literally brought Hulk and the scaling they had for him as the exact same in the episode. So Thor winning here, in their minds even now, does not invalidate Broly vs Hulk, lol.

 

[Maskofthedragon]

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Ima still wait for one more but uhhhh

Hmmm

I'm going to be in a goddamn coma with all these snoozefests, only 2 neat matches

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Spoiler: Vegeta vs Thor

Thanks to a certain Mangka, Vegeta doesnt get the Broly scaling

 

[Derpmaster9000]

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Yeah that’s 4 DBS characters now (Beerus, Broly, Black, and now Vegeta) and still no calc stacking for speed, looks like that’s off the table for DBS on Death Battle

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Not entirely. Vegeta's speed still got over 300 quintillion off of applying a multiplier to the shockwave feat, so they're willing to do it, they just didn't go full in, within the episode.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

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Nah, even in later casts, Ben has made it clear he was proud of that episode, and believes the result to be accurate. Also, the speed feat stuff they gave Thor, in no way, was remotely implied in the episode to be something Hulk scales to. They literally brought Hulk and the scaling they had for him as the exact same in the episode. So Thor winning here, in their minds even now, does not invalidate Broly vs Hulk, lol.

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If they scaled the planck time thing to Base Thor that’d have to scale to Hulk, since Hulk’s speed scaling was based entirely on Base Thor

 

[Tyranno223]

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Yeah that’s 4 DBS characters now (Beerus, Broly, Black, and now Vegeta) and still no calc stacking for speed, looks like that’s off the table for DBS on Death Battle

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Not going to lie, that's kinda stupid if you ask me. Not that it'd change the last two matches, but it's something that's been emphasised since early DBZ.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

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Not entirely. Vegeta's speed still got over 300 quintillion off of applying a multiplier to the shockwave feat, so they're willing to do it, they just didn't go full in, within the episode.

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Oh, really? They must use a massively lower estimate than us then, it’s supposed to reach Septiollions

 

[Derpmaster9000]

Spoiler: Vegeta vs Thor

Thanks to a certain Mangka, Vegeta doesnt get the Broly scaling

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The funny thing is, I know of the interview they refer to, and Trashtaro never once said Broly was stronger. The guy opposite of him did, and Trashtaro never actually acknowledged it, so its kinda fallacious that they said that. Not that it would've mattered with that bastard high speed difference, but eh, a mistake nonetheless.

 

[Tyranno223]

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Oh, really? They must use a massively lower estimate than us then, it’s supposed to reach Septiollions

Well if they're not going all in then it makes sense. The site only gives those high end speeds for the later arcs, meaning they'd probabky only explain them for a DB win that requires them.

 

[Derpmaster9000]

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Oh, really? They must use a massively lower estimate than us then, it’s supposed to reach Septiollions

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Seems to be that way, yeah. If Seiya ever fights Goku, I got a strange feeling that's when they're going to go balls-deep with that speed scaling there, lol.

 

[NotoriouSoda]

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Nah, even in later casts, Ben has made it clear he was proud of that episode, and believes the result to be accurate. Also, the speed feat stuff they gave Thor, in no way, was remotely implied in the episode to be something Hulk scales to. They literally brought Hulk and the scaling they had for him as the exact same in the episode. So Thor winning here, in their minds even now, does not invalidate Broly vs Hulk, lol.

Ben isn’t part of the Research team so he has no say in episodes lol. Hulk would still have speed feats that would put him above DB that you wouldn’t have to scale him to Thor. No, for Hulk vs Broly they didn’t factor the Marvel universe size in the episode just his 120x amp. It could have completely change we just don’t know

 

[Derpmaster9000]

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If they scaled the planck time thing to Base Thor that’d have to scale to Hulk, since Hulk’s speed scaling was based entirely on Base Thor

Using a different feat with Thor's hammer. Not exactly the same thing, I would argue.

 

[Tyranno223]

Ben isn’t part of the Research team so he has no say in episodes lol. Hulk would still have speed feats that would put him above DB that you wouldn’t have to scale him to Thor. No, for Hulk vs Broly they didn’t factor the Marvel universe size in the episode just his 120x amp. It could have completely change we just don’t know

At an earlier point they said it wouldn't have changed anything, but who knows now.

 

[Stefano4444]

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Homelander VS Omni-Man? ******* seriously?

They really couldn't come up with anything better to introduce Invincible and The Boys? Go with the most casual and boring option possible.

I hope this doesn't end up like with Shao Khan VS Akuma, because then the entire episode will be just a waste of space.

Wait they still haven't used multipliers for speed yet? It's something the series has emphasised since they were introduced!

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Again they didn't apply the Multipliers to Speed? Did they at least explain why they don't it in the episode?

Because just ignore it its wrong.

 

[Derpmaster9000]

Ben isn’t part of the Research team so he has no say in episodes lol. Hulk would still have speed feats that would put him above DB that you wouldn’t have to scale him to Thor. No, for Hulk vs Broly they didn’t factor the Marvel universe size in the episode just his 120x amp. It could have completely change we just don’t know

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Swan is though, and he didn't even attempt to interject during the cast, lol. He also went back and applied the number himself in one cast, and said Hulk's new number would still be lower than Broly. Also, whatever feats you could give Hulk, it doesn't matter when it comes to DB, as they haven't acknowledged them. Literally just what he got in his own episode so far.

 

[Stefano4444]

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Ima still wait for one more but uhhhh

Hmmm

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Jiren VS Atrocitus? Yeah this leak sound really sus, i really don't see this MU ever happening.

At least Homelander VS Omni-Man has some reason to exist, unlike Jiren VS Atrocitus.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Spoiler: Next time

Anyway next time is great

• AP: Multi-Continental (or Planetary with highballs) vs City Block level at best
• Speed: Relativistic+ at worst vs Mach 3
• Experience/Intelligence: Trained alien warrior that has conquered innumerable planets and has thousands of years of combat experience vs an unskilled machild
• Abilities: Omni-Man’s Heat Resistance nulls Homelander’s Heat Vision, which is his only worthwhile power outside of being a brick

Gee I wonder who’s gonna win

 

[NotoriouSoda]

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Swan is though, and he didn't even attempt to interject during the cast, lol. He also went back and applied the number himself in one cast, and said Hulk's new number would still be lower than Broly. Also, whatever feats you could give Hulk, it doesn't matter when it comes to DB, as they haven't acknowledged them. Literally just what he got in his own episode so far.

That because the factor the Universe 9x feat to base goku which got DB stupidity strong. Which was later fixed in GB episode where they scaled the Universe feat to there god forms

 

[Derpmaster9000]

Spoiler: Next time

Anyway next time is great

• AP: Multi-Continental (or Planetary with highballs) vs City Block level at best
• Speed: Relativistic+ at worst vs Mach 3
• Experience/Intelligence: Trained alien warrior that has conquered innumerable planets and has thousands of years of combat experience vs an unskilled machild
• Abilities: Omni-Man’s Heat Resistance nulls Homelander’s Heat Vision, which is his only worthwhile power outside of being a brick

Gee I wonder who’s gonna win

The better character, clearly.

 

[Tyranno223]

That because the factor the Universe 9x feat to base goku which got DB stupidity strong. Which was later fixed in GB episode where they scaled the Universe feat to there god forms

That was a stupid change then and a stupid change now

 

[NotoriouSoda]

Spoiler: Next time

Anyway next time is great

• AP: Multi-Continental (or Planetary with highballs) vs City Block level at best
• Speed: Relativistic+ at worst vs Mach 3
• Experience/Intelligence: Trained alien warrior that has conquered innumerable planets and has thousands of years of combat experience vs an unskilled machild
• Abilities: Omni-Man’s Heat Resistance nulls Homelander’s Heat Vision, which is his only worthwhile power outside of being a brick

Gee I wonder who’s gonna win

To be fair. It’s Omni man

 

[Derpmaster9000]

That because the factor the Universe 9x feat to base goku which got DB stupidity strong. Which was later fixed in GB episode where they scaled the Universe feat to there god forms

Vegeta got nearly 300,000 times uni scaling BENEATH Broly and Gogeta, so clearly, they have gone back to stacking them multipliers heavily for power, lol. You clearly haven't seen the episode just yet.

 

[TheStriker]

Spoiler: NEXT FIGHT "COMPLAINTS"

NOOOO ITS A STOMP!!! Most of S8 was a stomp. Most popular requested fights are stomps. NOOOOO MORE CAPESHIT. We're getting 2 new verses here. NOOOOOOO B-BUT Stop it. It's a popular request. You are welcome to not care about it, but most of the complaints are whining.

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It's not even the fact that it's an unwinnable match for Homelander, what am I supposed to be looking forward to? The fight dynamic that is literally just Flying brick vs Weaker flying brick? The soundtrack that is most definitely going to sound like a generic comic fight OST? The banter that is serious asshole meets arrogant asshole and probably won't be anything special? I think the episode itself will be good, and I'm not saying this matchup shouldn't have happened because it's free views after all, but overall the matchup screams filler to me (And The Boys technically isn't even a new verse lol)

 

[Tyranno223]

Vegeta got nearly 300,000 times uni scaling BENEATH Broly and Gogeta, so clearly, they have gone back to stacking them multipliers heavily for power, lol. You clearly haven't seen the episode just yet.

They put Vegeta beneath Broly? Didn't the recent manga arc hammer in that Vegeta and Goku were the strongest before Granolah did his wish?

 

[Tipper17]

Spoiler: Next time

Anyway next time is great

• AP: Multi-Continental (or Planetary with highballs) vs City Block level at best
• Speed: Relativistic+ at worst vs Mach 3
• Experience/Intelligence: Trained alien warrior that has conquered innumerable planets and has thousands of years of combat experience vs an unskilled machild
• Abilities: Omni-Man’s Heat Resistance nulls Homelander’s Heat Vision, which is his only worthwhile power outside of being a brick

Gee I wonder who’s gonna win

Biggest stomp of the season

 

[NotoriouSoda]

Vegeta got nearly 300,000 times uni scaling BENEATH Broly and Gogeta, so clearly, they have gone back to stacking them multipliers heavily for power, lol. You clearly haven't seen the episode just yet.

No it’s not that fact that Ego Vegeta got 300,000 times or that Broly doesn’t massively upscale. What I saying is that they did do it differently in Hulk vs Broly. They had BOG Goku stronger than Hulk in that episode because they believe base Goku was 9x universal.

 

[Mantidil]

Spoiler: Next time

Anyway next time is great

• AP: Multi-Continental (or Planetary with highballs) vs City Block level at best
• Speed: Relativistic+ at worst vs Mach 3
• Experience/Intelligence: Trained alien warrior that has conquered innumerable planets and has thousands of years of combat experience vs an unskilled machild
• Abilities: Omni-Man’s Heat Resistance nulls Homelander’s Heat Vision, which is his only worthwhile power outside of being a brick

Gee I wonder who’s gonna win

Spoiler: Next time

I wonder if they are doing this episode instead of vs Bardock because Amazon sponsored them again, like in "The Boys" battle royale episode. Either way, a bit disappointing.

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Mileena in MKX says hi

I actually heavily dislike MKX Mileena and like her lipless design better

Spoiler: Next death battle

 

[Sero]

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Ima still wait for one more but uhhhh

Hmmm

uhhhhhh-

 

[Tyranno223]

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Ima still wait for one more but uhhhh

Hmmm

Guess Raidou and Gandalf will have to wait a bit longer for me... Galactus vs Unicron when?

 

[TMaakkonen]

Guess Raidou and Gandalf will have to wait a bit longer for me... Galactus vs Unicron when?

OH MY BUDGET please understand

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Spoiler: Next time

 

[CBslayeR]

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Ima still wait for one more but uhhhh

Hmmm

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The 4chan leak this list comes from supposedly doesn't exist, the 4chan threads already tried looking for it and couldn't find anything. This is probably all BS with one lucky guess.

 

[Crowman123]

What if Star vs The Forces of Evil went to Cartoon Network instead of Disney? Would it be diffrent?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Responding to some things.
They do buy multipliers scaling to speed. And they do buy Goku and Vegeta being 9-13x uni in base. What they don’t buy is how high the multipliers go. Septillions c is very much wank to them. Quintillions, maybe sextillions is the peak they’ll get without new feats. And no, Vegeta and Goku are still < Broly and Beerus, as said by Toyotaro.

 

[silentgodomega]

What if Star vs The Forces of Evil went to Cartoon Network instead of Disney? Would it be diffrent?

Yes, it would have lasted one season before being cancelled to make room for more Teen Titans Go

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Responding to some things.
They do buy multipliers scaling to speed. And they do buy Goku and Vegeta being 9-13x uni in base. What they don’t buy is how high the multipliers go. Septillions c is very much wank to them. Quintillions, maybe sextillions is the peak they’ll get without new feats. And no, Vegeta and Goku are still < Broly and Beerus, as said by Toyotaro.

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Weird, thought multipliers would practically make DBS’ speed untouchable based on our ratings but they’re fairly easy for their competition to match or beat with those numbers.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Given the timeframe it came out, sounds true. Wouldn’t be the case nowadays though.

 

[Derpmaster9000]

Responding to some things.
They do buy multipliers scaling to speed. And they do buy Goku and Vegeta being 9-13x uni in base. What they don’t buy is how high the multipliers go. Septillions c is very much wank to them. Quintillions, maybe sextillions is the peak they’ll get without new feats. And no, Vegeta and Goku are still < Broly and Beerus, as said by Toyotaro.

Toyotaro never said Broly was above them. He mentioned Whis and Beerus. It was the other guy in the interview who mentioned Broly, and Toyo never acknowledged it as the truth.

 

[Thebrawlbro]

Spoiler: Next Time

Korra vs Storm and Flash vs Quicksilver about to lose their place as the most obvious stomps in DB history. And honestly, couldn't have happened to a better guy. Homelander deserves to get utterly stomped into the ground.