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If Giorno losing doesnt affect the views it gets, since in these two, dio and jonathan won
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Death Battle Season Nine Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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- boba fett harley quinn (post-crisis) heracles/hercules (myth) homelander (dynamite entertainment) jinx (league of legends) jonathan joestar magneto (marvel comics) omni-man predator scarlet witch (marvel comics) sun wukong (journey to the west) tanjiro kamado tetsuo shima (manga) thor (marvel comics) vegeta (dragon ball super) zatanna (post-crisis)
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Eh. Is Giorno that popular?
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Quicksilver vs Flash exists
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His theme is known as tik tok song iirc
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Yeh its popular there too his theme
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Why TikiTok got to ruin everything
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Now everyone has a quick TED seminar on musics used as memes or just plot devices.
That is depending on whether Small Building level vs Low Complex Multiverse level is more drastic a comparison than Multi-City Block level vs Outerverse level - I see casuals would pick the former tbf.
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Nope.
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Well if the research crew need to be faithful to the Megami Tensei verse, they will need to dig into the cosmology of it. And how Persona gets carried by it. John Constantine (Classic) vs Raidou Kuzunoha The XIV (Shin Megami Tensei) and Aigis vs Noel Vermillion are overdue matchups that may come some day so it is only a matter of time this box has to be opened as the verdict will be highly affected by the crew's interpretation of the cosmologies of the verses involved.
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I was agreeing with you lol
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Would've been easier to just tag him and say, "I agree." Less confusion, lol.
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To be fair not many people know what an outerverse is. Which means people without good theoretical math knowledge would just equate anything multiverse level or above.
Thank that 5D imp for introducing dimension scaling. This revolutionize character versus debating.
(Again, if Persona or even Megami Tensei should not be outerverse level, file a CRT and kick them back already.)
Thank that 5D imp for introducing dimension scaling. This revolutionize character versus debating.
(Again, if Persona or even Megami Tensei should not be outerverse level, file a CRT and kick them back already.)
Draft your cosmology blogs and raise a CRT to raise that out.
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I think outside VSBW, most people have persona as galaxy or uni at the high ends town or building at the lower ends with most of the characters being bullet timers
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******* Smash Bracket had Galaxy level Joker.
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So I guess blame smash bracket for that one I guess
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No need. I only ask because CogManip is what happened to Rex being pitted against the rest of the party prior to his expo dump. Besides, you're waiting for SSJ to get back to you, aren't you?
In all seriousness, I hold true to the belief that a lot of the exculpatory evidence for all of MegaTen being 1-A is taken wildly out of context, or is just wrong. And even then, if this time last year misinterpreting GG as tier 1 is any indication, a lot of MUs boil down to hax as a wincon (not the SvM2 'it's hax so it doesn't count' kind, I mean the 'whether it's hax or they're that powerful is a distinction not worth making, when the specific power/ability can be attributed to multiple of our own tiers, not just T1' kind).
I'd make a full rebuttal to that MegaTen Cosmology Blog post, but to save on time, I'd poset the idea of MegaTen being one of the verses that could benefit from physicality distinctions (similar to the 9-B keys that the recent tier 2 KH upgrades got, or what the GG nerfs... sort of got?). Nyx, for example, would only be 5-C to 5-B, because of the way that the coming of the fall being the death of all humanity is described by Ryoji (if Persona wasn't MegaTen, he'd have more than T1 keys). And before anyone says 'you're a Xenoblade fan', uh...
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- Melia can keep up with Fog King, but Tyrea isn't implied to scale
- Lightspeed Jin and Zeke being taken out of context
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- Getting rid of SMT 1-As
Good luck lmao
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It's less getting rid of 1-As (although the bulk of my argument is more 'does this stand on it's own, self-contained merit?' (see Maruki), or 'is the character being given a 1-A key predicated on a metric shitton of degrees of separation not worth the paper it's printed on?' (E.G random shit the wild cards can use, that runs into the 'Arceus vs Arceus' style oddity, and is irrespective of what's known as 'Persona re-use' that 4th Snake debunked?)), it's more there being either other tiers to imply lower stages on their profiles. Y'know, the Boomstick meme from about a month ago? Hell, we already do something similar with 'Early|Mid|Endgame' keys on other profiles, and even if it isn't perfect, it's at least a start (I did something similar with the Albedo Piazzolla mockup, although maybe I should have treated Proto Merkabah as it's own thing... but I digress).
To reiterate: my point is not that it's entirely impossible that T1 entities exist in this series (it isn't impossible), but that the rating is given out in excess, and when I see shit like 'key 3 of Joker being 2-A/T1 because he can fight Thor' (despite the context not pointing to the exact same Thor that seemingly warrants this ranking, leading to this power being underutilised), then... my apologies for being more than a bit sceptical.
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Proper context and common sense are somehow hardest things in VS debates.
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The main reason comics are hell
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It's gonna drop framerate anyway
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Oh easily which is why I'm not so easy to agree on majority of this sites ratings
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Well teeeeeeechnically Amazon commissioned The Boys BR so there is a chance :VVV
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I kinda agree to an extent which sorta proves my earlier point of some people trying to retroactively make their favourite characters as powerful as possible just for the "lols" or just to beat other fictional characters instead of actually trying to get accurate and/or consistent ratings.
Don't get me wrong we all have our bias for our favourite fictional works and that's fine but sometimes it just feels "wrong" when you can upgrade character A for reasoning that wouldn't fly for another character B due to negative bias, stricter standards or both for character B (vice versa for downgrades) but at this point I'm derailing so I'll drop the subject.
The episode that had Lazer Baby as standard equipment for Billy Butcher (CONTEXT!).
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That was a multi million billion dollar corporation. How much do you think it would cost to commission and episode of deathbattle? Like 20 grand is my guess
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Smash Bracket was letting people commission episodes for Crossover Coliseum for about $800 before they filled out the first season IIRC.
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Uhh depends on cost of animators, info editors and what not. Uuhhhh maybe 3 months worth of pay too? Could be in the 20k area I guess.
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I see joker put at universal given their way of scaling, while GER with his ability at the same rating, the speed and if he resists the RTZ is gonna be the biggest debate
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Man, looking at Space Battles thread, people have really started to hate DB's scaling a lot.
Next time will be a mess as well.
Next time will be a mess as well.
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To this day nobody managed to debunk ftl JoJo
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I kinda love that MU lol, not thematically great but the animation potential, banter, and fight potential is 10/10. Generally Hero vs Villain from another verse mus are super fun.
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You know what? I'd be down to watch it just for the Dialogue potential.
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