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Thor speed be increasing within every fight so whatever Bs you could argue for Vegeta,You could do the same for Thor
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Death Battle Season Eight Discussion Thread (2) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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You're assuming that Swan, who did not allow for potential multiversal scaling for Hulk that Marvel fans cry he should've gotten over what was given, will instead give that courtesy to Thor? Bro, I know that Thor should win, but its not as set in stone as you want to make it out to be, when it comes to how DB will deal with it.
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Ya see my dude Swan already has Thor winning when I was In the discord and even the team opinion on it haven't changed.
Difference for Hulk is Thor has the following...
Hax
Speed
Possible AP especially Scaled to the high end shit Odin can do and DB in the last video viewed Odin a Multiversal level Character
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Hax I'll give, speed, if multipliers are used, is debatable. As for Odin, depends what level of multiversal they view him at, I suppose. Guess we'll have to see where it goes when that battle inevitably happens in season 9 or 10. It'd be funny if both Frieza and Vegeta were in the same season, and the former took home the W while the latter took the L. It'd almost be like them saying Frieza > Vegeta. Though let's be honest, he is, lol.
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I'd honestly argue that Frieza, at least in the anime continuity, is stronger then Vegeta individually in DBS Broly
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Your the one coping now accept it
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Freiza isn't stronger than vegeta the people who think that are honestly braindead.
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Hax for sure, but Vegeta doesn't lack in that department either, considering that they will include stuff from DBS Manga.
Speed its debatable, if they apply multipliers there its a good chance of Vegeta to have the edge, assuming Warrior Madness don't affect Thor's speed.
Base Vegeta = Base Goku = 240 Quadrillion c.
SSj1 Vegeta = 240*50 = 12 Quintillion c.
SSj2 Vegeta = 12*2 = 24 Quintillion c.
SSjG Vegeta = SSjG Goku > SSj3 Goku = 12*4 = 48 Quintillion c.
SSjB Vegeta > 48*50 = 2.4 Sextillion c.
SSjBE Vegeta = SSjB KK20 Goku > 2.4*20 = 48 Sextillion c.
Ultra Ego Vegeta > 48 Sextillion c.
Base Thor = 15.15 Sextillion c.
Warrior Madness Thor = 151.5 Sextillion c.
AP only if they scale Thor to Odin, if not then i definitely see Vegeta having the major advantage.
Base Vegeta = Base Goku = 9x Universes.
SSj1 Vegeta = 9*50 = 450x Universes.
SSj2 Vegeta = 450*2 = 900x Universes.
SSjG Vegeta = SSjG Goku > SSj3 Goku = 900*4 = 3600x Universes.
SSjB Vegeta > 3600*50 = 180000x Universes.
SSjBE Vegeta = SSjB KK20 Goku > 180000*20 = 3600000x Universes.
Ultra Ego Vegeta > 3600000x Universes.
Base Thor = 2448x Universes.
Warrior Madness Thor = 24480x Universes.
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I mean he certainly did a better job in the novelization at fighting against Broly then Vegeta did but fair enough
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Depends on the character. For most DC heroes I'd probably use the DCAU, though for Barry I'd probably use the Arrowverse since he dosn't appear in the DCAU. IDK what I'd use if I needed to use Hal. Most Teen Titans would get the original show.
As for Marvel, either the MCU or EMH depending on how I felt.
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There's the DC animated movie universe and the Green Lantern Animated Series for Hal if that works
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You brought up Goku
In a debate involving Vegeta vs Thor
Learn what the word mean before making a fool outta ya self
Hehehe
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I mean multipliers or not, that Skyfather scaling for Thor is gonna be hard for Vegeta to counter in terms of multipliers
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This is worth talking about, the rest is High 1-B at best as far as I know.
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If anything you guys might look stupid at thinking thor wins you really expect them to use those.
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What adaptations would you use for X-Men characters?
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I think there's like 3 different X-Men cartoons, all the movies, some games and the occasional spin off and crossover.
Though wouldn't limiting yourself from the comics make matchups boring? Like I know comics have a track record of inconsistency but it does make things more interesting in the overall research and analysis
Though wouldn't limiting yourself from the comics make matchups boring? Like I know comics have a track record of inconsistency but it does make things more interesting in the overall research and analysis
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Basically, Odin, Hulk, and Skyfather scaling gg
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Hulk won't mean anything. Its the Odin scaling that would actually matter.
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Also I know this particular matchup is lacking in interesting connections, but if they do want to use Scourge:
Scourge vs Fleetway Sonic, if that doesn't work then honestly there's nothing else for the guy sadly
Scourge vs Fleetway Sonic, if that doesn't work then honestly there's nothing else for the guy sadly
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Know that i think about it, Thor also scales to Regular Sentry, Void Sentry, Hercules, and Silver Surfer as well.
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Just for clarification, Thor has also broken a piece off of Yggdrasil, Cracked open Exitar's armour (one of the most powerful Celestials), defeated Surtur while he wielded the Eternal Flame (something that was claimed to be able to destroy all ten realms and the multiverse), was able to knock out the Phoenix Force with Mjolnir, and harmed the Chaos King with his lightning, so even without the Odin scaling, he is atleast comparable to the Godkiller mark 2 (he even fought side by side with it, though he had grown to giant size to make it easier for him to actually clobber the Dark Celestials)
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Either the 90s cartoon or the live action movies, most likely.
Fleetway Super Sonic has Dark MegaMan.EXEAlso I know this particular matchup is lacking in interesting connections, but if they do want to use Scourge:
Scourge vs Fleetway Sonic, if that doesn't work then honestly there's nothing else for the guy sadly
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I've seen Kite Man flown, I'm sorry, I mean thrown around.
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I mean I guess it would be fair for manga and anime fighter, also maybe kick ass could work.
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Based… if I even knew who the other person was.
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Honeslty where does Kevin go upon DC?
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Ehhhhh. My personal scaling? Anyone who’s speed isn’t absolutely bonkers will also be like tier 8 so they get stomped… Everyone else blitzes Kevin. With speed equal it’d be more interesting cause his absorption is pretty OP and he has a Taydenite crystal around his neck which should allow him to cut through even Way Big upon absorption.
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Now that is an interesting debate. Goku Black shouldn’t be able to kill Albedo due to regen. Incap and KO are hard. BFR impossible cause he gets outranged by Clockwork… hmm maybe not that interesting. Bring in the other Zamasu’s though and then we’re talking.
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well i meant where does Kevin scale from his verse?
highest feat?
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Oh did you mean how far does he get in DC comics or what is his destructive capacity?
If you mean the latter. Well eh B10 is pretty inconsistent, but you can scale even base Kevin to large planet in AP. Feat-wise himself he doesn’t have much going for him relatively speaking I think, so I guess his DC is somewhere in tier 8. Almost everyone is relative to everyone else in Ben 10 anyways, I consider Kevin a mid tier of the regular aliens without absorption or when armored or in his Kevin 11 form. Ultimate Kevin scales higher than 1/10th the power of Way Big. It’s also very much implied that Kevin can absorb a Celestialsapien’s powers.
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the latter
so Large Planet depending on who he absorbing
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Eh, if it's popular, it's popular. Not much that can be done at that point.
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No his AP in human form kek. There’s like at least 25 instances where humans are comparable to aliens.
Meanwhile the aliens essentially downscale from Way Big via multipliers.
I define DC as what actually gets destroyed vs AP as the energy that was used to do so. But it seems you treat them as the same thing.
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