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Death Battle Season Eight Discussion Thread (2) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

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Mary Sue basically means nothing and any definition you could make one could apply to tons of extremely popular characters

It’s also just asinine when used on Rey specially in force awakens. Where she’s having trouble beating a Half Trained Limbing Force User who wasn’t even trying to kill her

i’ve heard people complain she can Swim for gods sake
 
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All right lets get to the chase
This MU is literally only has lol Legacy and outside of that it's trash
Like i said before It's Lex vs Doom but Worse
Lex had connections with Doom that made sense and outside of Gilgamesh who was too recent Doom didn't have better
What does Akuma vs Shao Khan have beyond "fighting game bosses" and SF vs MK rivalry which not many give a shit these days and frankly boring and outside of Ryu vs Scorpion most of it on this show have been either okay or forgettable and ass
Each MU this season Had MU with Connections to justify it
This MU doesn't even ******* surface level connections
Sure it's easier to argue "well they didn't fight each other in the earlier seasons so why not now" but here's the thing
Akuma has better
Yujiro given the connections and similarities between the two
Garou works for "Both Fighters losing there Humanity to attain greater power and Escalation of the battle Oni Akuma vs Monster Garou
Raoh well....you already know Why

But you know what makes those MU work very well?

Martial Arts

all those Characters mentioned can play off Akuma Far better in HtH Combat given there Mattial Artists

Shao khan mostly fight with his Hammer his type of Fighting Style doesn't mesh well with Akuma who's primarily HtH and he barely uses Martial Arts

sure you can make a case it can be fine but im not gonna settle for "Fine Fight" for Akuma

I want the BEST Fight for the dude period


The only silver lining is Maybe They'll throw a curve ball over it given Ben said there might be some surprises but idk

The connections just boil down to "fighting game bosses" and SF vs MK rivalry (which honestly is a boring AF rivalry to begin with). Their fighting styles don't mesh well at all, one guy is all about martial arts while the other barely uses them at all. And the debate ain't even interesting either. I absolutely do not buy this MU being the best for both, when Akuma vs Raoh exists and has both everything this MU has and doesn't have
 
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Tipper17 said:
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All right lets get to the chase
This MU is literally only has lol Legacy and outside of that it's trash
Like i said before It's Lex vs Doom but Worse
Lex had connections with Doom that made sense and outside of Gilgamesh who was too recent Doom didn't have better
What does Akuma vs Shao Khan have beyond "fighting game bosses" and SF vs MK rivalry which not many give a shit these days and frankly boring and outside of Ryu vs Scorpion most of it on this show have been either okay or forgettable and ass
Each MU this season Had MU with Connections to justify it
This MU doesn't even ******* surface level connections
Sure it's easier to argue "well they didn't fight each other in the earlier seasons so why not now" but here's the thing
Akuma has better
Yujiro given the connections and similarities between the two
Garou works for "Both Fighters losing there Humanity to attain greater power and Escalation of the battle Oni Akuma vs Monster Garou
Raoh well....you already know Why

But you know what makes those MU work very well?

Martial Arts

all those Characters mentioned can play off Akuma Far better in HtH Combat given there Mattial Artists

Shao khan mostly fight with his Hammer his type of Fighting Style doesn't mesh well with Akuma who's primarily HtH and he barely uses Martial Arts

sure you can make a case it can be fine but im not gonna settle for "Fine Fight" for Akuma

I want the BEST Fight for the dude period


The only silver lining is Maybe They'll throw a curve ball over it given Ben said there might be some surprises but idk

The connections just boil down to "fighting game bosses" and SF vs MK rivalry (which honestly is a boring AF rivalry to begin with). Their fighting styles don't mesh well at all, one guy is all about martial arts while the other barely uses them at all. And the debate ain't even interesting either. I absolutely do not buy this MU being the best for both, when Akuma vs Raoh exists and has both everything this MU has and doesn't have
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Lets see if they do a similar thing with Carnage and Venom, like they must realize it too Akuma has better and isnt fighting game related either
 
The_Unknown_Warrior1 said:
Well that is true, which is why using anime only scaling doesn't work in the long term
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its ok if you want to argue it supporting the Characters capabilities the issue was the calc being inflated up the ass
even the guy who did the calc admitted he ****** up on it

BlackDarkness679 said:
Lets see if they do a similar thing with Carnage and Venom, like they must realize it too Akuma has better and isnt fighting game related either
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Hopefully so
 
In the midseason q&a podcast, Ben asked if we would like a season of rematches. I think most people suggested a sub series where they go back and correct past incorrect matches. I would fully support that. Pikachu would toast Blanka. Gaara would get his W etc

At least they finally admitted Tifa would stomp Yang and they got that wrong in that podcast episode.
 
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In the midseason q&a podcast, Ben asked if we would like a season of rematches. I think most people suggested a sub series where they go back and correct past incorrect matches. I would fully support that. Pikachu would toast Blanka. Gaara would get his W etc

At least they finally admitted Tifa would stomp Yang and they got that wrong in that podcast episode.
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A full season of rematches would actually be really fun, as long as they don't just pick wrong episodes. Nobody wants to see Bomberman vs Dig Dug 2.

Eggman vs Wily and Master Chief vs Doom Slayer are obvious picks, but some others seem like they'd be good too.

Strider vs Ryu would be really good to see redone, and could probably go either way considering Strider apparently killed God once. Ryu's sprites in the episode weren't that good, and using the sprite they used in Naruto vs Ryu would make the episode much better.

He-Man vs Lion-O would be great since Lion-O's sprites haven't aged well.

Robocob vs Terminator would also be great since the models have aged like ass.

Mega Man vs Astro Boy was a massive legacy match, but was honestly kinda bad. Half the match was just Astro Boy dodging homing attacks. This is definitely not me being a salty Mega Man fanboy.

Beast vs Goliath totally missed the point of both characters since it was rushed, so on a modern budget and a good amount of time we could have a legitimately good fight.

Batman Beyond vs Spider-Man 2099 also should be remade for similar reasons, it was rushed to hell.

Like, episodes that have literally zero merit outside of making the former loser win should not be a thing. Gaara vs Toph is a boring matchup, Pikachu vs Blanka is too, and aside from making Nightmare win there's literally no reason to make Guts vs Nightmare 2 since the animation quality is easily up to par with modern DB sprite animations.
 
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XSOULOFCINDERX said:
What I want to know is if they're giving Madara the Jūbi or not.
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Tipper17 said:
They will mainly cause it what makes this a debate to begin with
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They will use it if Madara wins without it, or if Madara loses even if using it.

If Jūbi is instrumental to Madara's victory or defeat, I think Death battle crew will just slap Madaraizen with another matchup and do more research.



Questions before I sleep:
(1) Do we have any WWE feats or lore beside the "atomic leg drop"?
(2) Do we composite JJBA 1 Dio and JJBA 3 Dio? Or which Dio even matters when it comes to fighting Alucard?
(3) A cursed one: Kenpakuma or Shaokakuma?
 
Tipper17 said:
shouldn't be an issue
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Yeah see I wanted to highlight that point. Because considering it's in character for Alucard to let himself be mangled and torn apart, along with Dio honestly being strong enough to make Alucard explode with any attack from himself or The World, then Dio should have a humongous amount of blood for himself to drink to get stronger and or heal any wounds that Alucard may inflict
 
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