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Death Battle Season Eight Discussion Thread (2) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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They accepted lightspeed Raikage
and Orochimaru, so probably
and Orochimaru, so probably
CinnabarManx421
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What kickstarter backer wanted these loosey goosey matches lol. Like Twilight vs Tails? Someone must hate the fox. Also Batman vs Crypto is real weird. Some are kinda cool ideas like Iroh vs Oogway and Archie vs Paper.
Some updated MU from Smash Bracket
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Tails probably stomps Twilight since they’re disallowing powerscaling.
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Yeah Smashbracket. Where Kirby can lose to Tanjiro
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Twilight doesn’t really need powerscaling to be where she is though. She can raise the sun on her own for the 4-B rating and the Universal MLP stuff comes from her own feat with the crown.
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Shit that’s hype af. Tho if SK doesn’t have any good haxs Travis is winning due to superior stats and haxs
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I doubt that Kirb would lose against him by SB's rules, considering that even without scailing Kirby has planet level feats
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IIRC they said those feats were outliers and/or not something Kirby can dish out regularly, as Kirby struggles with wall level AP. Kirby vs Jigglypuff was a super close match-up to them.
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Yeah, that was just Ink himself. The rest of the staff behind Smash Bracket thinks it was a one-sided slaughter in Kirby's favor.
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It’s very likely they’d consider any cosmic feats outliers.
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IIRC their logic behind that was because Bowser's steering wheel didn't get broken.
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So ink and some other dude aren't the only ones doing this
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Smash Bracket is garbage
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Smash Bracket has decent animations so theres that.
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I mean yeah, their research is shit, but the animation is godlike, just look at Mewtwo vs Sephiroth
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Unfortunately, Mewtwo vs Sephiroth is pretty much the best they have. I've found a consistent issue is that they make the fights too fast to keep track of everything that's happening, and they try to go out of their way to show off all of a character's abilities even if they don't fit well for a versus animation (Like when Lucas was basically boosting his stats whenever he wasn't actively attacking in Lucas vs Wario).
I also find that they love making fun of at characters typically interpreted to be strong nearly to the point of spite, such as how Kirby gets injured in every single animation after Kirby vs Jigglypuff or how they said Bill can't break the 4th wall in Banjo vs Yoshi even though Bill had literally nothing to do with that episode and also the main thing they used to bunk Bill's statements was a 4th wall breaking Reddit AMA.
I am genuinely afraid of what they'll do with Archie Sonic and Paper Mario.
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Completely forgot about that series
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Yeah, while animations are decent, they are bit too jokey to give an accurate representation of characters and they are bit too fast.
Even if DBs can be slow, DBs at least lately feel better in representing characters.
Even if DBs can be slow, DBs at least lately feel better in representing characters.
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BS lmao
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They are peak contrarianism, reminds me of their posts ******** other versus communities that Youtube kept recomending to me
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almost as if they never heard of franchises like Dragon Ball to begin with.
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IIRC I think they've gone on record saying verses with an in-universe power measuring system like Dragon Ball still get scaling.
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Really?
It's not just DB alot of VS series rely on it
Like can you really argue Super Shadow being inferior to a random weapon from Eggman that can nuke stars just because he never shown to ?
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bruh moment.
being portrayed as equal in strength and narrative support doesn't qualify via what?
I can't believe this is a serious note.
This one is pure BS as well.
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yeah there pretty stupid
like bruh
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for context, orochimaru dodged legit photons in the light novels
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If they do they need to reevaluate what outlier actually means lol
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Smash bracket boo, but tbh DB has been way too ******* lenient on scaling and feats.
Wheres the middle ground.
Wheres the middle ground.
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I don't care about how Smash Bracket rates their characters, how strong these characters are is ultimately subjective, but their whole thing of not scaling characters to each other does irk me.
Like sure not scaling random fodder Goomba #824,991 to Marios castle punting feat because it's capable of harming him in the platformers or in a random RPG battle is fine, but they're basically saying that even someone like Bowser wouldn't scale to the castle punting despite consistently being a rival to Mario and being portrayed as physically stronger than him.
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Pfffft
I mean this forum thread, possibly, but surely you do not mean the ACTUAL wiki?
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I actually like Smash Bracket.
Sure, rules may not be the best and some could be considered shit; but you could say that of VSB as well. They even could be considered better on some points.
Also their thing is interesting in term of intertainment and discovery.
Their rules make it so you have this feeling you won't really know who's winning and what the fight will look like.
So I like this fun approach of VS debatting.
Sure, rules may not be the best and some could be considered shit; but you could say that of VSB as well. They even could be considered better on some points.
Also their thing is interesting in term of intertainment and discovery.
Their rules make it so you have this feeling you won't really know who's winning and what the fight will look like.
So I like this fun approach of VS debatting.
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Yeah they’re way too strict with scaling. Like they have a rule that says even if character B says character A is stronger than them, it’s an outlier unless it’s proven. Like what? That’s assuming character B is a moron that doesn’t know their own strength lol
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I mean, yeah.
FFS our stats are usually inbetween DB's stats and SB's stats, that's about as "Middle Ground" as you can get. We punish verses for inconsistency, but we still consider high feats.
Don't get me wrong, not every verse is a middle ground just because different people work on different verses, but most of them are.
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