DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (2024–2025) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[Kroneii1]

Metal sonic unironically carred the match (for eggman team, atleast).

Metal sonic literally solos bowser army

 

[AcidSilver]

Absolute LMAO at Time Eater being seen as this big trump card in the lead up to the episode just to be so inconsequential that it didn't even show up outside of that what if animation of Bowser one shotting it.

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Will say, one of my favorite bits in the animation was a small moment at the beginning where Bowser commands his army to attack. He does a little eye look as if he's doing role call to make sure everyone's accounted for and listening, kinda gave dad vibes as opposed to a more confident general look if he had just pointed and started brawling

 

[Arceus0x]

Ngl I don't like the sonic scaling here on vsbw. I think anyone who isn't powered by 7 chaos emeralds is around the tier 6 area and super forms and such are 2-A to Low 1-C at most. I don't really trust the whole hyper-timelines thingamabob

 

[Tipper17]

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Ngl I don't like the sonic scaling here on vsbw. I think anyone who isn't powered by 7 chaos emeralds is around the tier 6 area and super forms and such are 2-A to Low 1-C at most. I don't really trust the whole hyper-timelines thingamabob

Bros finna get crucified

These streets ain't safe for you big dog

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

Oh really? Well GET A LOAD OF THIS!

I also pissed on his wife

 

[SlendVeny]

You know after this episode, and assuming they didn't need extra time to finish stuff up, I have a question that's been on my mind for the last hour:

Who thought that Omni-Man vs Bardock was the episode to start off the new era of Death Battle compared to Bowser vs Eggman? Like the difference in quality between the episodes, in analysis, research, and the actual battle itself, are like light years apart.

Of course if they released the former first because the latter needed more time to cook in the oven then I completely understand and I won't hold it against DB, but Omni-Man vs Bardock now feels like a firecracker compared to the explosion of fireworks which is Eggman vs Bowser.

I think it's mostly time in the oven, but you don't want to start with the best one, just a popular one.

 

[Arceus0x]

Bros finna get crucified

I ain't scared bro, it takes more than a few nerds on the internet to scare me

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

I do like how they had alternate scenarios not only to fit in bits of animation that wouldn't flow well with the main fight but also as a "Hey here's what would've happened if they did this instead" to show outcomes and the counters to different strategies visually as well.

That's something I need to tip my hat to Death Battle for, to be honest.

They didn't have the episode be one where Bowser wins in every conceivable scenario against Eggman, the alternate scenarios showed that there are scenarios where Eggman can actually beat Bowser...Bowser just happens to win more times than not. If anything? It makes more apparent that Bowser vs Eggman is such a very debatable match that there are many situations where both can take the W.

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

Ngl I don't like the sonic scaling here on vsbw. I think anyone who isn't powered by 7 chaos emeralds is around the tier 6 area and super forms and such are 2-A to Low 1-C at most. I don't really trust the whole hyper-timelines thingamabob

Mods tear of his balls

 

[RanHover60]

Ngl I don't like the sonic scaling here on vsbw. I think anyone who isn't powered by 7 chaos emeralds is around the tier 6 area and super forms and such are 2-A to Low 1-C at most. I don't really trust the whole hyper-timelines thingamabob

But..but.. what about the Chaos Emerald’s CM1 and info manip!?! Fraudser can’t counter that, hiw did he beat my Eggoat, my eggking, my egghusband!!?!!

 

[Darkmon_cns]

How did Sage die?

She got turned into a block with the death egg

 

[Livinmeme]

But..but.. what about the Chaos Emerald’s CM1 and info manip!?! Fraudser can’t counter that, hiw did he beat my Eggoat, my eggking, my egghusband!!?!!

Bowser has platonic scaling, checkmate

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

I ain't scared bro, it takes more than a few nerds on the internet to scare me

I forgot how fierce the Mario Sonic rivalry is. Like Sonic and Dragon Ball is mostly clout chasing Dragon Ball, but Mario and Sonic is like the beef

 

[Livinmeme]

How did Sage die?

Nay, she is fine.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

The only disappointment I have with the Sonic scaling here is that Dark Gaia needs more respect, for the best modern Sonic game!

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Ngl I don't like the sonic scaling here on vsbw. I think anyone who isn't powered by 7 chaos emeralds is around the tier 6 area and super forms and such are 2-A to Low 1-C at most. I don't really trust the whole hyper-timelines thingamabob

Personally I think non Chaos Emerald powered users have decently consistent Tier 5/4 feats and scaling, but I respect your opinion on Sonic scaling even if I disagree with it myself.

 

[SuperMarioGamers3]

I'm going to be honest I've been wanting Eggman to win for the longest time and yet I'm not even mad he lost im more uninterested in the next time more than anything else.

Also, my GOAT Metal cooked throughout the whole fight and even showed the stupid ass King Boo whos boss and that's good enough for me.

King Boo packed up Infinite with a SINGLE WHOMP.

 

[SlendVeny]

Bowser has platonic scaling, checkmate

So what if he's not gonna bang Eggman? How does that affect the fight.

 

[Gyra1524]

King Boo packed up Infinite with a SINGLE WHOMP.

It's not much of a feat to kill a FRAUD.

 

[ZeedKZ]

 

[ShakeResounding]

I ain't scared bro, it takes more than a few nerds on the internet to scare me

A nerd on the internet says this

Kek.

Not sure why people are acting like VSBW Sonic fans are rabid against any ideology against their own, it just proves people like to yap away at preconceived notions of a fandom instead of visiting the general discussion and seeing how much scaling varies even amongst ourselves (at least, those who don't just blindly follow the pages). Typical.

 

[Arceus0x]

Personally I think non Chaos Emerald powered users have decently consistent Tier 5/4 feats and scaling, but I respect your opinion on Sonic scaling even if I disagree with it myself.

I mostly think people like Tangle shouldn't be Low 2-mfing-C. Like these are the same people who were almost blown up by a bomb that threatened a...uh...a warehouse...
I know, I know, it is simply an outlier even among the idw comic scaling, but I still feel like tier 2 should be reserved for super form scaling and the rest are whatever tier fits the bill below.

 

[Dust_Collector]

@ShakeResounding I know it's not the dub you were hoping for, but how you feeling about DB finally giving base form Sonic characters FTL speeds alongside universal super forms with speeds clocking in in the quadrillions c

 

[Arceus0x]

Kek.

Not sure why people are acting like VSBW Sonic fans are rabid against any ideology against their own, it just proves people like to yap away at preconceived notions of a fandom instead of visiting the general discussion and seeing how much scaling varies even amongst ourselves (at least, those who don't just blindly follow the pages). Typical.

mf I wasn't the one insinuating it. And does me being a nerd on the internet change the fact that I am not scared of nerds of the internet? Wild.

 

[koopa3144]

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

Sage seals people inside Cyber Cages, tho... It's not just BFR. And when you break the sealing, you get corrupted.

I am gone for good now, btw. I was just still receiving notifications from quoted posts.

Ok. I think they mentioned something for that, but I don't remember what it was.

 

[Dust_Collector]

 

[ShakeResounding]

And does me being a nerd on the internet change the fact that I am not scared of nerds of the internet? Wild.

Where did my joke at you also being an internet nerd insinuate you should be scared?

 

[Maskofthedragon]

Bowser has platonic scaling, checkmate

The power of friendship and believing in yourself is unironically OP in way too many verses
Now to blindly learn what lore Fall guys actually has, no spoilers please

 

[Livinmeme]

The power of friendship and believing in yourself is unironically OP in way too many verses
Now to blindly learn what lore Fall guys actually has, no spoilers please

TF2 scaling means Disgaea scaling, which means that everyone and their mother is 2-A.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

I mean, the fight was ultimately Eggman Vs Bowser.

the fight ended when Eggman lost. Sage giving up is pretty much a gag.

She didn't give up she is plotting, I bet she'd get revenge by using her data analysis to determine the best way to move up in the ranks until she can find a way to get rid of Bowser once and for all

 

[Arceus0x]

Where did my joke at you also being an internet nerd insinuate you should be scared?

Why did you bring up that I was an internet nerd and find it funny that I said that I wasn't scared then? Either its an illogical thing or you're insinuating that it is weird somehow.

 

[Arceus0x]

I think DB should do what they did here and not use gorey deaths. I get that this is death battle but like, a death can be elegant. If characters are known to be brutal then its fair but when they aren't? I'd really prefer to see something closer to a dragon ball death.

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

I mostly think people like Tangle shouldn't be Low 2-mfing-C. Like these are the same people who were almost blown up by a bomb that threatened a...uh...a warehouse...
I know, I know, it is simply an outlier even among the idw comic scaling, but I still feel like tier 2 should be reserved for super form scaling and the rest are whatever tier fits the bill below.

No I totally understand what you what you mean. As someone who's currently reading the IDW comics, it is incredibly glaring to see someone who scales to Low 2-C like Tangle be nearly blown up by a bomb which threatened a warehouse just as you said a consequence of SEGA making IDW canon to the game continuity instead of its own thing, admittedly.

But honestly? I just chalk it up to the writers not giving a shit about consistency and cohesion in the strength of their characters and just writing what they want for the sake of the story. It doesn't excuse it, and it's still egregious, but that's how I see it anyway.

 

[Tipper17]

RENT WILL BE PAID!!!

 

[ShakeResounding]

Why did you bring up that I was an internet nerd and find it funny that I said that I wasn't scared then?

I didn't find it funny that you weren't scared, there's your misconception. I found the irony of the statement funny.

Either its an illogical thing or you're insinuating that it is weird somehow.

No, I was making a simple joke. Do you want to continue over-reading me?

 

[Arceus0x]

No I totally understand what you what you mean. As someone who's currently reading the IDW comics, it is incredibly glaring to see someone who scales to Low 2-C like Tangle be nearly blown up by a bomb which threatened a warehouse just as you said a consequence of SEGA making IDW canon to the game continuity instead of its own thing, admittedly.

But honestly? I just chalk it up to the writers not giving a shit about consistency and cohesion in the strength of their characters and just writing what they want for the sake of the story. It doesn't excuse it, and it's still egregious, but that's how I see it anyway.

I agree with that but at the same time it puts them in a separate category for me - the grounded category. A grounded character can be tier 5 or 4 or whatever but tier 2 is infinite territory, it is a place that really shouldn't be reached by random people

 

[Tipper17]

I mostly think people like Tangle shouldn't be Low 2-mfing-C. Like these are the same people who were almost blown up by a bomb that threatened a...uh...a warehouse...
I know, I know, it is simply an outlier even among the idw comic scaling, but I still feel like tier 2 should be reserved for super form scaling and the rest are whatever tier fits the bill below.

no lies in thinking that