DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (2024–2025) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[Lawyerr]

That can happen. I mean, just look at a lot of kinetic energy feats on here. Moving the moon at any reasonable speed will net a higher result than overcoming the moon's gravitational binding energy.

It's unfortunate that there is no KE to use because the explosion isn't visible.

 

[PonePoster]

Gohan has Dragon Ball Super stuff, so he's guaranteed to win unless they use Invincible crossovers, for some reason.

Gohan when they use Spawn scaling to make Mark 6D with immeasurable speed

 

[Lawyerr]

Gohan will SOLO

Not anymore.

Expect Gohan to be downplayed to oblivion.

 

[PonePoster]

so bets on next time?

Joker 2,000%. Outer man himself vs city level FODDER

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

DB team mostly is. It's just that the fanbase doesn't take any criticism towards their goats lol

I've never seen any staff straight up say 'yeah we ****** up'. The most we got was GvS3, but Goku still lost so it wasn't much of an apology.

Could be wrong tho

 

[Bigdongus]

I mean its awkward. If we are supposed to be open minded and be ready to accept different calcs, then DB team should also be open minded if we question their stats.

Nah they have a hugbox discord that’s good enough

 

[Tyranno223]

I've never seen any staff straight up say 'yeah we ****** up'. The most we got was GvS3, but Goku still lost so it wasn't much of an apology.

Could be wrong tho

GvS2 got an apology. It was that bad.

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

It's unfortunate that there is no KE to use because the explosion isn't visible.

Fair enough.

 

[Tipper17]

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Me reading this thread for the past few days

I'll check back in with Bowser vs Eggman to see if we all still being coy

 

[Derpmaster9000]

Also, love how the transition made it seem like the disk got insta-blasted and fragmented wildly, when we never actually SEE how it's destroyed on panel, making it impossible to actually give a justifiable KE calc. Horrendous. So much so, I just started laughing at the bullshit.

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

I've never seen any staff straight up say 'yeah we ****** up'. The most we got was GvS3, but Goku still lost so it wasn't much of an apology.

Could be wrong tho

Really? They've said they've gotten a ton of stuff wrong, including Yang vs Tifa, the original Link vs Cloud, and several others.

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Bro sonic fans will die irl if Eggman loses

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

Anyway, they mention something about supernovas in a black box.

 

[NotoriouSoda]

have power to destroy large star
two of the strongest in the verse almost die in one

You can’t make this shit up

 

[OverlordDonnelly]

A matchup where a character is given the highest possible interpretations even if it completely dismantles its series' entire narrative?

Damn, this is the Dragon Ball supporters' Billcord.

 

[Quantu]

Why do people continue to mistake heat resistance for AP

Yes energy blah blah, but that's literally never been how it's treated.

 

[Tipper17]

You can’t make this shit up

**** that he nearly killed himself with a blackhole

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Really? They've said they've gotten a ton of stuff wrong, including Yang vs Tifa, the original Link vs Cloud, and several others.

I think Ben and Chad have said that. I've never seen someone like Ultraguy say he was wrong for not scaling Vegeta to god tier base form scaling or the like.

But tbf I don't pay attention to that so you may be right

 

[DRW001]

I hope they give Joker his 1-A scaling just to have Giorno win anyway

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

To be fair, being star level =/= being able to survive in a star.

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

I think Ben and Chad have said that. I've never seen someone like Ultraguy say he was wrong for not scaling Vegeta to god tier base form scaling or the like.

But tbf I don't pay attention to that so you may be right

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

**** that he nearly killed himself with a blackhole

Not being able to survive a black hole =/= not being star level.

Why do people continue to mistake heat resistance for AP

Yes energy blah blah, but that's literally never been how it's treated.

No idea.

 

[Tipper17]

Not being able to survive a black hole =/= not being star level.

for a series that treated Planet busting as the peak it does
where all these star level feats

 

[RanHover60]

I’m still confused on how they somehow managed to get Bardock such a huge speed advantage along with getting Nolan that ridiculous of a strength advantage when normally it’s the other way round almost everywhere else lol.

Db really is back wack

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Like they needed a whole elaborate plan just to blow up a planet, that alone would be the biggest Anti-Feat for Star level lmfao.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

For some who listens and believes, just because it sounds convincing to your ears, I suppose it would.

And that's exactly who I am, yar har!

And well it made sense to me because they found a distance, and had Omniman scale above the laser that destroyed the disk.

Doesn't mean that I know if it's right or not I always struggled at math lmao

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

for a series that treated Planet busting as the peak it does
where all these star level feats

I don't know anything about Invincible. I'm just correcting your previous statement.

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

So, few questions?

How did they determine the size of the planet the sun disk was shielding?

How do they determine how thick it is?

How do they determine what material it's made of?

Are they assuming it was all destroyed in one shot?

Are they assuming it wasn't just broken apart?

How does a sun disk half the size of a star, and far less heavy, yield a large star level calc from blowing it up?

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

Is it just me, or was the analysis sort of... lifeless? Like, I know a lot of people don't like the animated gags with Wiz and Boomstick, but here it felt like it was just two dudes talking about characters I know nothing about. Probably because that's exactly what it was, I know, but still...

 

[Derpmaster9000]

So, few questions?

How did they determine the size of the planet the sun disk was shielding?

How do they determine how thick it is?

How do they determine what material it's made of?

Are they assuming it was all destroyed in one shot?

Are they assuming it wasn't just broken apart?

How does a sun disk half the size of a star, and far less heavy, yield a large star level calc from blowing it up?

For the last question, it can yield it, based on how violently it's destroyed.

That there is the elephant in the room, because we never actually SEE its destruction in the comic, lol.

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Joker should win. I think a lot of DB's researchers agreed with that a while ago (I could be wrong about that), but we'll see.

The best Giorno can hope for is a stalemate, anyway.

I mean he also has will power manip and power null, so it depends on whether they buy him resisting

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

Does anyone who is knowledgeable on Invincible know what supernova feats this black box is referring to?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Anyway Giorno's got this on lock

 

[Chronicplane]

So the leaks were true then. solar disk go brrr I guess. also is this the first time in modern death battle where they didn't cut to a Wiz & Boomstick appear in the lab animation? didn't think I wouldn't notice that. Controversial outcomes aside DJ cooked with the editing went so fire.

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

I mean he also has will power manip and power null, so it depends on whether they buy him resisting

Yeah, but Joker resists that stuff, from what I've heard.

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Is it just me, or was the analysis sort of... lifeless? Like, I know a lot of people don't like the animated gags with Wiz and Boomstick, but here it felt like it was just two dudes talking about characters I know nothing about. Probably because that's exactly what it was, I know, but still...

Yeah, DA can do much better. Frieza vs Megatron and Popeye vs Saitama are far better than this.

Even the stuff on his own channel is better tbh.

DA is a good animator, but this animation was kinda meh

 

[Dust_Collector]

While it's more than fair to dimiss the sundisk feat being that high due to the planet viltrum bust straight up not being possible for them without help, using the heat stuff is silly given that, well, Movie 10 SS Gohan geniuely thought lava would put down Broly. Every other argument against star level Invincible is A-Ok.

Anyway I liked the episode, outcome is sus but they used enough sciency bullshit to justify their sundisk numbers that I kinda just shrugged and thought "Yeah I don't buy it at all but I guess I see how they got there" (Although no shot that the high end is 120,000 quettatons lmao). Weird how, like redreaper mentioned earlier they seemed to use the canon version of Friezas planet bust instead of the toei version, esspecially since it would be comparable to the sundisk feat high end and all.

Fight itself was good, liked the individual analysis for Omni-Man and Bardock and outside of the outcome and reasoning I thought the final analysis was fine. Editing was fire as hell. I'll give it a 7/10.

Bro sonic fans will die irl if Eggman loses

Sonic fans would die irl if you said the werehog isn't the peak of human achievement lmao it don't take much for them

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

Yeah, DA can do much better. Frieza vs Megatron and Popeye vs Saitama are far better than this.

Even the stuff on his own channel is better tbh.

DA is a good animator, but this animation was kinda meh

The post your responding to was asking about the analysis, not the animation.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

You can be universal but have no resistance to extreme heat of lava for example, thats a dumb thing to bring up as counter

Broly also died to a sun heat despite being far above the AP of a star