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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (2024–2025) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

I do think it's crazy Dragon Ball created a generational transformation with Super Saiyan that set the standard, all that, something that transcends the medium to permeate pop culture, and then it does it again with Ultra Instinct like over two decades later.

That's a Brady career ass run there.
I can still here the first note of the theme
 
I don't think it will be possible to recreate something like the anime ToP. With no manga, nobody knew what was going to happen next.

Generational hype levels that helped push UI to heights it's at now.

I really wish Toyotaro wasn't so small scale, because Ultra Ego, which I think is a great transformation, did not get the presentation it needed.
 
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Finished Terminator Zero not long ago

Ngl, a lot of plot twists, some you kinda knew something was up, but the rest you had no idea at all till they tell you, the timelines and time travel shenanigans going here are crazy with how it goes

Apparently a 2nd season is green lit and it considers all movies as canon too, curious how this goes for the series on this wiki
 
I don't think it will be possible to recreate something like the anime ToP. With no manga, nobody knew what was going to happen next.

Generational hype levels that helped push UI to heights it's at now.

I really wish Toyotaro wasn't so small scale, because Ultra Ego, which I think is a great transformation, did not get the presentation it needed.
its telling that db did a better debut of the form than toyo did with it
 
I really wish Toyotaro wasn't so small scale, because Ultra Ego, which I think is a great transformation, did not get the presentation it needed.
To be honest: I think that Toyotaro is just a weak writer, overall. Of course he has his moments of genuinely good writing and all that shit, but I think all around he's just not that good of a writer regardless if he's making his own arcs or adapting what Toriyama wrote down in scripts.

I mean it's like you said, Ultra Ego could've been so much as both a transformation and a badass moment for Vegeta, yet it ended up being so....simple in its introduction and Vegeta loses to the first opponent he used Ultra Ego against.
 
There's bad apples in all fanbases but I will say I've met Sonic Fans that have a weird "holier than thou" attitude about DB Fans. They always say something along the lines of "At least we aren't as bad as Goku Fans/DB Tards"
sonic stans in terms of vs shit outside this site have some obession with db for clout same with other series like opm and shit
 
So do we think we'll be getting a new G1 blog for Kratosura, or did the OG one already kinda cover everything needed with no real changes. Like I know Asura hasn't gotten anything new, but I'm not sure if Valhalla gave Kratos anything higher or not for the upcoming matchup.
I believe they do a new blog for each episode, even if they covered the mu in the past. But tbh, don’t expect much to change in the new blog.
 
So do we think we'll be getting a new G1 blog for Kratosura, or did the OG one already kinda cover everything needed with no real changes. Like I know Asura hasn't gotten anything new, but I'm not sure if Valhalla gave Kratos anything higher or not for the upcoming matchup.
How old the original? I haven't seen it
 
To be honest: I think that Toyotaro is just a weak writer, overall. Of course he has his moments of genuinely good writing and all that shit, but I think all around he's just not that good of a writer regardless if he's making his own arcs or adapting what Toriyama wrote down in scripts.

I mean it's like you said, Ultra Ego could've been so much as both a transformation and a badass moment for Vegeta, yet it ended up being so....simple in its introduction and Vegeta loses to the first opponent he used Ultra Ego against.
Moro was excellent, but then you find out Toriyama was pretty involved in the story, and less so for Granolah, and....

yeah
 
Some people just hate fictional characters. Imagine if someone did a fancomic all about making Goku look like an asshole, itd be noticeable.
I've actually seen Twitter users who take the task of gathering proof of how Goku is horrible person and a terrible character yadda, yadda and they state they "have the mission to prove how awful Goku is to the world" (who also threw some pretty messed up comments at Japanese fans discussing on how Goku was written on different values such as self improvement, dedication and sacrifice, compared to western superheroes who are more about helping others, responsibility, and putting the need of others first). Wouldn't be surprised there were other people doing the same for other characters they don't like.
 
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