DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (2024–2025) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[Darkmon_cns]

Course correction, after the heavily mixed (which later became negative) reception of Forces the IDW writers were specifically instructured to keep the Force's references to a premium. Not just Infinite but the Rookie and even the Phantom Ruby weren't allowed to be mentioned by name let alone shown (at the time) and eventually IDW branched out to become it's own thing (before it was made canon to the games).

Well light man at least recently is phantom ruby based technology, so I like to think he will come back

 

[TartaChocholate]

The battle pretty much sums up why in some Sonic fan circles Forces is even more infamous than Sonic 06 or Boom Rise of Lyric.

*Infinite was sent to the frontlines with no backup from Metal, Sage or anyone else thus was clearly seen as expendable (After the first major cutscene of Forces with Infinite jumping Sonic with Phantom clones, he never uses that strategy again against Sonic nor the Rookie)
*He received a crushing defeat in a very embarrassing way despite his boasts and actually having great power (In Forces he got beaten by base Sonic, who spent six months locked up and a Rookie member of the resistance, who Infinite previously spared).
*The Phantom Ruby got crushed by Bowser after Kamek swiped it from Metal Sonic and it's never brought up again (Phantom Ruby went from Maina to Forces back to Maina and then just disappeared).

He is the Infinite potential guy, stated to be the strongest Sonic villain to date yet was simply just too weak to be relevant in the grand scheme of things (keep in mind he never actually used the REAL Phantom Ruby just a copy).


Course correction, after the heavily mixed (which later became negative) reception of Forces the IDW writers were specifically instructured to keep the Force's references to a premium. Not just Infinite but the Rookie and even the Phantom Ruby weren't allowed to be mentioned by name let alone shown (at the time) and eventually IDW branched out to become it's own thing (before it was made canon to the games).

Apparently Infinite is trapped in the Phantom Ruby in Solaris knows where but Sega aren't afraid of showing him in other media (He is a playable character in Sonic Forces Speed Battle and played a major role in the Otherworld comedy), it's just IDW has pretty strict guidelines on what characters can appear and when (e.g The Hooligans, Mighty, Ray and Honey can only appear in the comics that take place in the classic era).

Pardon my long reply.

I've read around that people started offput due to perceiving Infinite as a tryhard, edgy, cooler than you villain (giving unfavorable comparisons to OCs), but then they kind of embraced that and were eager to see how far they ran away with that very same concept and began to enjoy him for the same reasons (especially as his theme came out), but were disappointed once the game came out and his performance was underwhelming. But then came the stance that Infinite may always have been a parody or jab at those same types of edgy, tryhard fan characters all along, so some people warmed again to him in that regard. Dunno if there's any truth to this, but it's interesting to think about.

And he's voiced by Liam O'Brien. Like, he may speak nonsense, but he does it with such as smoo~~~~ooth voice.

 

[ShrekAnakin]

The battle pretty much sums up why in some Sonic fan circles Forces is even more infamous than Sonic 06 or Boom Rise of Lyric.

*Infinite was sent to the frontlines with no backup from Metal, Sage or anyone else thus was clearly seen as expendable (After the first major cutscene of Forces with Infinite jumping Sonic with Phantom clones, he never uses that strategy again against Sonic nor the Rookie)
*He received a crushing defeat in a very embarrassing way despite his boasts and actually having great power (In Forces he got beaten by base Sonic, who spent six months locked up and a Rookie member of the resistance, who Infinite previously spared).
*The Phantom Ruby got crushed by Bowser after Kamek swiped it from Metal Sonic and it's never brought up again (Phantom Ruby went from Maina to Forces back to Maina and then just disappeared).

He is the Infinite potential guy, stated to be the strongest Sonic villain to date yet was simply just too weak to be relevant in the grand scheme of things (keep in mind he never actually used the REAL Phantom Ruby just a copy).


Course correction, after the heavily mixed (which later became negative) reception of Forces the IDW writers were specifically instructured to keep the Force's references to a premium. Not just Infinite but the Rookie and even the Phantom Ruby weren't allowed to be mentioned by name let alone shown (at the time) and eventually IDW branched out to become it's own thing (before it was made canon to the games).

Apparently Infinite is trapped in the Phantom Ruby in Solaris knows where but Sega aren't afraid of showing him in other media (He is a playable character in Sonic Forces Speed Battle and played a major role in the Otherworld comedy), it's just IDW has pretty strict guidelines on what characters can appear and when (e.g The Hooligans, Mighty, Ray and Honey can only appear in the comics that take place in the classic era).

Pardon my long reply.

Forces is like THE game that mindbroke Sonic fans, but the game isn't really that bad in all honesty. It's just pretty mediocre, and a waste of perfectly great ingredients.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

I liked forces alot actually, I had alot of fun with it and wish infinte did more

 

[Tipper17]

 

[Tipper17]

 

[Gyra1524]

Question how much closer is Metal Sonic vs Cell if it's the toei version of Cell?

 

[JJSliderman]

Cell would still be only 3 unis to Metal’s 12, on the low end for Metal.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

GT Cell is already dead so he can't die again, but Metal has like a bunch of incap options

 

[JJSliderman]

Not to mention that Cell getting 2-C is already iffy because it’s just him getting stronger and being confident in fighting Goku post Kid Buu.

 

[Dust_Collector]

Bowser vs Eggman offically has more views than Giorno vs Joker, it's only been a day

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Not to mention that Cell getting 2-C is already iffy because it’s just him getting stronger and being confident in fighting Goku post Kid Buu.

Ehh, Gero and Myuu personally tasked Cell and Frieza with dealing with Goku, when Rilldo was also part of their army, so there's an argument for those two being >Rilldo.

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

URGH

 

[ShrekAnakin]

I'm at a point where I'm staring to wonder if the format of a show like Death Battle is just inherently limiting sadly.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Bowser vs Eggman offically has more views than Giorno vs Joker, it's only been a day

Completely deserved tbh

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Bowser vs Eggman offically has more views than Giorno vs Joker, it's only been a day

1.3 million views in a single day, and I'm still wondering how the **** Among Us vs Fall Guys is suppose to be some worthy follow up after Bowser vs Eggman.

Even if Among Us vs Fall Guys is able to appeal to the YouTube algorithm and appeal to Zoomers/Gen Alpha, who the **** cares about Among Us or Fall Guys these days? Let alone in the debating scene.

 

[Tipper17]

 

[Tipper17]

Completely deserved tbh

i need it surpassing omnidock in a week