DC Comics - Mandrakk Rewrite

[Deagonx]

Dax Novu’s origin story literally equated him splitting in two with him going crazy or becoming deranged

No, it doesn't. It describes him as both, it never equates the two.

Meaning Dax Novu post split was still Dax Novu

The split concept I am referring to doesn't conflict with Mandrakk still being called "Dax Novu" after his split from the original unified probe. The fact that one of the fragments continues being referred to as Dax doesn't contradict the fact that a split occurred. In fact, most often in fiction when something like that happens, one of the two continues being referred to with the original's name. Supergirl/Satan Girl, Rick/Toxic Rick, Kami/Piccolo

A schism is just a division between two strongly opposed sections or parties caused by differences in beliefs.

A schism is a "separation" or a "division." Notably, the scan directly equates the term "schism" with "split" so this is a moot point. The implications are clear.

And in the context of Multiversity the conflict between the two beings from Crisis on Infinite Earths, Anti Monitor and the Monitor, is the schism.

It's never specified whether the schism is Anti-Monitor/Monitor or if it's Flaw/Overvoid. Regardless of which one we pick, the fact remains that this contradicts your interpretation that Dax never split.

Anyway, can you first post evidence to support that Dax Novu being split in two is equated with some schism of conflict between Anti Monitor and Monitor?

I already explained this. The Final Edition of Multiversity updates the "and is split into" and writes "and is ALSO split in two" which means this split is being equated to the first schism.

 

[Xearsay]

The split concept I am referring to doesn't conflict with Mandrakk still being called "Dax Novu" after his split from the original unified probe. The fact that one of the fragments continues being referred to as Dax doesn't contradict the fact that a split occurred. In fact, most often in fiction when something like that happens, one of the two continues being referred to with the original's name. Supergirl/Satan Girl, Rick/Toxic Rick, Kami/Piccolo

You’re not understanding what I’m saying. The Multiversity origin you’re referencing doesn’t mention two separate beings coming into existence from Dax Novu splitting, let alone Mandrakk being one of these separate beings that came into existence from Novu being split.

Instead it refers to Dax Novu singularly.

“Divided, deranged, Novu catalogues and numbers each variation on a basic theme, each alternative twist. But Novu looks too close, too deep. Infected by activity and process, by the endless play of matter and narrative. Novu is blinded corrupted by the flaws dazzling light.”

And as revealed in Final Crisis secret files, it wasn’t until after Dax Novu was locked away did he then turn into Mandrakk.

I already explained this. The Final Edition of Multiversity updates the "and is split into" and writes "and is ALSO split in two" which means this split is being equated to the first schism.

Post the scan.

Also this is what’s said in the original Multiversity comic.

“For study, Monitor Mind brings forth science Monitor Dax Novu. Who selflessly enters the flaw and is contaminated and split in two.”

Even if we swapped the “split in two” with “and is also split in two” how would that be equating Dax Novu being split with the first schism?

 

[Deagonx]

The Multiversity origin you’re referencing doesn’t mention two separate beings coming into existence from Dax Novu splitting, let alone Mandrakk being one of these separate beings that came into existence from Novu being split.

I'm aware, but that does not change its meaning in context. As I said, it is not uncommon for a character to have a split in those terms, yet to have one of the two continue to be referred to with the "original's" name/identity.

Even if we swapped the “split in two” with “and is also split in two” how would that be equating Dax Novu being split with the first schism?

Because "also" dictates a shared quality. If Dax was "also" split in two, then this is not the first/only "splitting in two." Contextually, this must refer to the first schism. e.g. (A) "Superman is from the planet Krypton. Supergirl is also a Kryptonian." The only other way to read "also" would be a list like (B) "Clark Kent is a report, he is also a superhero."

Using a (B) reading is impossible here for multiple reasons. First, that meaning of also was already captured by the original text which said "and split in two." The fact that they changed it to also, and removed the "and" means that this is not a list of events being conjoined by "also." Further, the fact that they put ALSO in all capitals means that it is a particularly important part of the sentence.

QED: The updated version makes it clear that Dax Novu's schism is the same in quality as the first schism.

 

[Xearsay]

I'm aware, but that does not change its meaning in context. As I said, it is not uncommon for a character to have a split in those terms, yet to have one of the two continue to be referred to with the "original's" name/identity.

If you’re aware that Multiversity doesn’t mention two separate beings coming into existence from Dax Novu splitting, with Mandrakk not even being mentioned in the comic, then you just conceded as you basically agreed that Multiversity doesn’t support your claim that Mandrakk is a fragment of Dax Novu.

Because "also" dictates a shared quality. If Dax was "also" split in two, then this is not the first/only "splitting in two." Contextually, this must refer to the first schism. e.g. (A) "Superman is from the planet Krypton. Supergirl is also a Kryptonian." The only other way to read "also" would be a list like (B) "Clark Kent is a report, he is also a superhero."

Using a (B) reading is impossible here for multiple reasons. First, that meaning of also was already captured by the original text which said "and split in two." The fact that they changed it to also, and removed the "and" means that this is not a list of events being conjoined by "also." Further, the fact that they put ALSO in all capitals means that it is a particularly important part of the sentence.

Sure the word “also” can be used to showcase a shared quality, however that depends on the sentence.

The context of this sentence is that it’s listing how how Dax Novu was affected after he entered the flaw. “Who selflessly enters the flaw and is contaminated- is also split in two” is saying that in addition to Dax Novu being contaminated he is split in two.

Also what would this even prove? You already conceded to having no evidence that Dax Novu splitting created two separate beings with Mandrakk being one of them, so what’s the point?

 

[Deagonx]

If you’re aware that Multiversity doesn’t mention two separate beings coming into existence from Dax Novu splitting, with Mandrakk not even being mentioned in the comic, then you just conceded as you basically agreed that Multiversity doesn’t support your claim that Mandrakk is a fragment of Dax Novu.

This is a complete non-sequitur. Both FC and Multiversity make this clear.

The context of this sentence is that it’s listing how how Dax Novu was affected after he entered the flaw. “Who selflessly enters the flaw and is contaminated- is also split in two” is saying that in addition to Dax Novu being contaminated he is split in two

The latter half of my comment specifically prove why this interpretation can't be applied, and you didn't address any of it.

Using a (B) reading is impossible here for multiple reasons. First, that meaning of also was already captured by the original text which said "and split in two." The fact that they changed it to also, and removed the "and" means that this is not a list of events being conjoined by "also." Further, the fact that they put ALSO in all capitals means that it is a particularly important part of the sentence.

Also what would this even prove? You already conceded to having no evidence that Dax Novu splitting created two separate beings with Mandrakk being one of them, so what’s the point?

Better than evidence, I have explicit proof in both comics that mention Dax Novu. I don't know what you seek to accomplish by lying about what I'm saying, but no, I never claimed I didn't have evidence and I've repeatedly stated the opposite.

 

[Xearsay]

This is a complete non-sequitur. Both FC and Multiversity make this clear.

Oh really? Then post evidence from Multiversity or Final Crisis that Dax Novu being split created two separate beings with one of them being Mandrakk without saying “it’s obvious.”

The latter half of my comment specifically prove why this interpretation can't be applied, and you didn't address any of it.

Your reasonings were literally because the word “also” is capitalized which is irrelevant to what you’re trying to prove, and because the original version of Multiversity said “and” which is also irrelevant and quite literally contradicts your interpretation.

As I said before, the sentence is listing what happened to Dax Novu after he enters the flaw. With it first saying he was contaminated and then saying he was split in two. Meaning the “is also” in between Dax Novu was “contaminated” and Dax Novu was “split in two” must mean “in addition.” As the sentence doesn’t make any coherent sense otherwise.

 

[Deagonx]

Then post evidence from Multiversity or Final Crisis that Dax Novu being split created two separate beings with one of them being Mandrakk without saying “it’s obvious.”

I already did.

Your reasonings were literally because the word “also” is capitalized which is irrelevant to what you’re trying to prove, and because the original version of Multiversity said “and” which is also irrelevant and quite literally contradicts your interpretation.

"It's irrelevant."

Wow! Great argument. I guess that settles it.

With it first saying he was contaminated and then saying he was split in two. Meaning the “is also” in between Dax Novu was “contaminated” and Dax Novu was “split in two” must mean “in addition.” As the sentence doesn’t make any coherent sense otherwise.

It cannot mean in addition, the redaction explicitly changes it to a wording that excludes such an interpretation, hence why the word "and" was removed. The text explicitly states it in a way that compares his split to the first split mentioned. I've already explained why. You saying "well that's irrelevant" will not magically erase what the scan says.

 

[Xearsay]

I already did.

No you didn’t. The only scan you posted this entire thread was a snippet of a Multiversity panel saying Dax Novu “is also split in two.” Which doesn’t prove that Dax Novu being split in two created Mandrakk.

"It's irrelevant."

Wow! Great argument. I guess that settles it.

It does settle it. The world “also” being emphasized through capitalization doesn’t magically invalidate how the word “also” can be interpreted. And the other published versions of Multiversity using “and” quite literally contradict your interpretation.

It cannot mean in addition, the redaction explicitly changes it to a wording that excludes such an interpretation, hence why the word "and" was removed. The text explicitly states it in a way that compares his split to the first split mentioned. I've already explained why. You saying "well that's irrelevant" will not magically erase what the scan says.

Lmao. You’re telling me the change from “and” to the word “also” cannot mean “in addition too” when “in addition too” is literally the definition of “also.”

 

[Deagonx]

You still haven't engaged with the reasoning I provided. I won't spend my time correcting a neverending stream of strawman versions of my argument.

 

[Xearsay]

How crazy is this. The moment I ask you to prove Dax Novu being split in two created Mandrakk, you back out of arguing.

Also there no was no strawman. You literally tried to argue a specific version of Multiversity changing the word “and” to “Also” invalidates the word “Also” meaning “in addition” despite “in addition” being the definition of the word “also.”

 

[Alonik]

How crazy is this. The moment I ask you to prove Dax Novu being split in two created Mandrakk, you back out of arguing.

He doesn't need to, I already proved this several comments ago, Novu was split because it was contaminated, and Mandrakk is the part of the Monitor (Dax Novu) that felt contaminated.

 

[Deagonx]

The moment I ask you to prove Dax Novu being split in two created Mandrakk, you back out of arguing.

My proof was provided. Your response was to misrepresent my argument with a shallow strawman version of it, making it my job to correct that over and over again. It's a pretty common tactic from you.

The evidence and my argument prove my point completely. Your unwillingness/inability to acknowledge or comprehend the basic premise of my argument doesn't rebut it or make it disappear.

You literally tried to argue a specific version of Multiversity changing the word “and” to “Also” invalidates the word “Also” meaning “in addition” despite “in addition” being the definition of the word “also.”

Yes. Based on a series of sound and clear reasoning that you have desperately avoided addressing.

 

[Xearsay]

He doesn't need to, I already proved this several comments ago, Novu was split because it was contaminated, and Mandrakk is the part of the Monitor (Dax Novu) that felt contaminated.

No you didn’t. The scan you’re referring to doesn’t say “part of the monitor” it just says “part of Monitor.” I don’t know why you keep adding “the” into the sentence. And in the context of Superman Beyond, the name “Monitor” is referring to the Overvoid, as shown in Superman Beyond #1.

 

[Xearsay]

My proof was provided.

No it wasn’t. You only posted one scan this entire thread and it mentions nothing about Dax Novu splitting into two separate beings with Mandrakk being one of them. Post evidence or else you’re just stonewalling.

Yes. Based on a series of sound and clear reasoning that you have desperately avoided addressing.

I did address your argument.

Your argument: The change from “and” to “also” invalidates “also” meaning “in addition.”

My response: “In addition” is and will always be the definition of “Also.” And if you have a problem with it you can take it up with Oxford dictionary.

 

[Deagonx]

Your argument: The change from “and” to “also” invalidates “also” meaning “in addition.”

My response: “In addition” is and will always be the definition of “Also.” And if you have a problem with it you can take it up with Oxford dictionary.

Well that's like 30% of the argument, but it's a start!

You still haven't addressed it though. The fact that the world could mean that doesn't mean that it does.

As my argument explained, the full context and information available definitively eliminates that possibility. Saying "but that's one of the definitions" doesn't actually address the reasoning. Moreover, your description of my reasoning is just one piece of the full picture, which you left out most of to create the same watered-down strawman you're trying to argue against.

 

[Alonik]

No you didn’t. The scan you’re referring to doesn’t say “part of the monitor” it just says “part of Monitor.” I don’t know why you keep adding “the” into the sentence. And in the context of Superman Beyond, the name “Monitor” is referring to the Overvoid, as shown in Superman Beyond #1.

Not that "the" would justify anything between Dax Novu nor Overvoid. Besides as I've already debunk that reasoning, there's no point in picking up Overvoid being called Monitor, because I've already sent Morrison's WoG interview saying that Mandrakk is not a part of Overvoid for the simple reason that Mandrakk is a duality and Overvoid is a being that transcend the duality of the Cosmic Armor and Mandrakk in the same Final Crisis Beyond #2.

So just from Morrison's Word of God, Superman's line about Mandrakk being the contamined part of the Monitor means that he is a duality of Dax Novu, not the Overvoid.

 

[Xearsay]

You still haven't addressed it though. The fact that the world could mean that doesn't mean that it does.

As my argument explained, the full context and information available definitively eliminates that possibility. Saying "but that's one of the definitions" doesn't actually address the reasoning. Moreover, your description of my reasoning is just one piece of the full picture, which you left out most of to create the same watered-down strawman you're trying to argue against.

The full context is that the word “also” is being used link Dax Novu being contaminated with Dax Novu being split in two, hence why “also” is placed between them in the same sentence. Your only argument against this has been literal nonsense.

Deagonx - “The fact that they changed it to also, and removed the "and" means that this is not a list of events being conjoined by "also." Further, the fact that they put ALSO in all capitals means that it is a particularly important part of the sentence.”

The word “also” being put in caps isn’t going to alter its interpretation and the other versions of Multiversity using “and” instead of “also” only further proves my point.

 

[Xearsay]

Not that "the" would justify anything between Dax Novu nor Overvoid. Besides as I've already debunk that reasoning, there's no point in picking up Overvoid being called Monitor, because I've already sent Morrison's WoG interview saying that Mandrakk is not a part of Overvoid for the simple reason that Mandrakk is a duality and Overvoid is a being that transcend the duality of the Cosmic Armor and Mandrakk in the same Final Crisis Beyond #2.

So just from Morrison's Word of God, Superman's line about Mandrakk being the contamined part of the Monitor means that he is a duality of Dax Novu, not the Overvoid.

“Part of the monitor” is not the same as “part of Monitor.”

I don’t actually care for author statements, however Morrison doesn’t say Mandrakk isn’t a part of the Overvoid. He says that beyond the crumbling ledge in the Monitor world, it’s all non dual Monitor Mind where concepts like Mandrakk and CAS don’t exist because they’re resolved to unity. This is because the Overvoid to Morrison, represents a Buddhist state of divine union. Meaning once you go beyond Nil and reach the Overvoid, you’re now one with Monitor-Mind.

No where does it say the Overvoid “transcends Mandrakk” as you put it. It just means that when Mandrakk/Dax Novu was outside the flaw before the beginning of everything, he was one with Monitor-Mind. Which just further backs up CAS’s statement, “you’re the part of Monitor that felt contaminated by the Multiverse.”

 

[Deagonx]

The full context is that the word “also” is being used link Dax Novu being contaminated with Dax Novu being split in two, hence why “also” is placed between them in the same sentence. Your only argument against this has been literal nonsense.

You still haven't addressed the reasoning. Calling it nonsense isn't a counterargument. The full context and evidence prove my point completely.

The word “also” being put in caps isn’t going to alter its interpretation and the other versions of Multiversity using “and” instead of “also” only further proves my point.

Again, you only mentioned one part of my argument, and you didn't actually address it. Blindly asserting that the evidence doesn't matter isn't a counter argument.

 

[Alonik]

This is because the Overvoid to Morrison, represents a Buddhist state of divine union. Meaning once you go beyond Nil and reach the Overvoid, you’re now one with Monitor-Mind.

This is Dematteis' cosmology. The overvoid is not a state of Oneness it is just an entity that is a void and that separates itself from the multiverse and see that as a flaw, instead of just being an emanation, so even if a given character jumped into the overvoid they would still be defined as "flaw" which is another word for "narrative" and "story", at most he would just want to create more divine metal to contain and seal whatever jumped into him openly in Morrison's view.

It just means that when Mandrakk/Dax Novu was outside the flaw before the beginning of everything, he was one with Monitor-Mind. Which just further backs up CAS’s statement, “you’re the part of Monitor that felt contaminated by the Multiverse.”

No, it doesn't. This is just your biased personal interpretation, the actual statements only means that mandrakk that is the evil reborn from the cosmic hunger of stories is transcended by the Overvoid, Mandrakk is the embodiment of what the Overvoid itself denies, he will never be part of the Overvoid for the simple fact that he is a vampire who feeds for survival on the Elixir of Life, the bleed ergo the flaw, the Overvoid literally separates itself from that.

 

[Alonik]

You still haven't addressed the reasoning. Calling it nonsense isn't a counterargument. The full context and evidence prove my point completely.

Again, you only mentioned one part of my argument, and you didn't actually address it. Blindly asserting that the evidence doesn't matter isn't a counter argument.

Tbh this is just endless ad ignorantiam, ad verbosium and circular reasoning, he is just with his regular wank attempts at changing text as it regularly happens.

 

[Xearsay]

You still haven't addressed the reasoning. Calling it nonsense isn't a counterargument. The full context and evidence prove my point completely.

You’re free to think the evidence supports your point but it doesn’t. The fact remains that the sentence is listing what happens to Dax Novu after he enters the flaw.

“Who selflessly enters the flaw and is contaminated- is also split in two.” Meaning also has to be read as connecting a series of events.

Again, you only mentioned one part of my argument, and you didn't actually address it. Blindly asserting that the evidence doesn't matter isn't a counter argument.

I mentioned two parts.

1. “Also being capitalized.”

My response: “Also” being capitalized only applies emphasis and doesn’t actually alter the fact that it’s being used to connect elements within a series.

2. “And” being used instead of “also” in other published versions of Multiversity.

My response: “And” being used instead of “Also” in the regular published versions of Multiversity only proves that the word “also” is being used a substitute for “and.” Which is fine because both “also” and “and” can be used to connect elements within the series of a sentence.

 

[Xearsay]

This is Dematteis' cosmology. The overvoid is not a state of Oneness it is just an entity that is a void

Morrison has used Buddhism in his cosmology as well. There is evidence in the comics, and since you like to use author statements, Morrison has even said in an interview that the Overvoid was this pure consciousness that underlies everything like in Buddhism.

Morrison - “It's kind of like in Buddhism where there's this pure consciousness that underlies everything, and you can call it god, you can call it the void.”

No, it doesn't. This is just your biased personal interpretation, the actual statements only means that mandrakk that is the evil reborn from the cosmic hunger of stories is transcended by the Overvoid, Mandrakk is the embodiment of what the Overvoid itself denies, he will never be part of the Overvoid for the simple fact that he is a vampire who feeds for survival on the Elixir of Life, the bleed ergo the flaw, the Overvoid literally separates itself from that.

Loud and wrong.

First you said Mandrakk was born from Dax Novu, now you’re saying Mandrakk is born from the cosmic hunger of stories? Where is it said that Mandrakk was born from the cosmic hunger of stories?

How does Mandrakk feeding on bleed prove that he can’t be a part of the Overvoid?

 

[Deagonx]

Who selflessly enters the flaw and is contaminated- is also split in two.” Meaning also has to be read as connecting a series of events.

They literally removed the "and" that made it a connected series and separated it with the dashes, to specifically recant that interpretation.

1. “Also being capitalized.”

My response: “Also” being capitalized only applies emphasis and doesn’t actually alter the fact that it’s being used to connect elements within a series.

2. “And” being used instead of “also” in other published versions of Multiversity.

My response: “And” being used instead of “Also” in the regular published versions of Multiversity only proves that the word “also” is being used a substitute for “and.” Which is fine because both “also” and “and” can be used to connect elements within the series of a sentence.

Your theory is that they retconned the text... to keep the meaning the same? Great idea. And they capitalized the ALSO to emphasize that Dax split just like the first schism, by wording it in such a way that it literally can't be read as a sequential series of events.

 

[Xearsay]

They literally removed the "and" that made it a connected series and separated it with the dashes, to specifically recant that interpretation.

You realize the word “also” can be used to connect things in a series as well right? Also, It’s a em dash and an em dash within lists is used to emphasize the series.

Your theory is that they retconned the text... to keep the meaning the same? Great idea. And they capitalized the ALSO to emphasize that Dax split just like the first schism, by wording it in such a way that it literally can't be read as a sequential series of events.

I don’t think they retconned the text at all. That’s what you think for whatever reason. Also post evidence to support that’s the reason “also” was capitalized.

 

[Deagonx]

You realize the word “also” can be used to connect things in a series as well right? Also, It’s a em dash and an em dash within lists is used to emphasize the series.

The dashes separate the first event in such a way that "is also split in two" becomes an independent clause. Your argument is just based on bad grammar.

I don’t think they retconned the text at all. That’s what you think for whatever reason

They literally changed the text. That's a retcon.

 

[Xearsay]

The dashes separate the first event in such a way that "is also split in two" becomes an independent clause. Your argument is just based on bad grammar.

No because “- is also split in two” is not a complete thought and cannot stand as it’s own sentence. Therefore it can’t be an independent clause.

They literally changed the text. That's a retcon.

I’m talking about the meaning. Yes they substituted “and” for “also” within the list of the sentence but the meaning of the sentence remains the same.

 

[Deagonx]

No because “- is also split in two” is not a complete thought and cannot stand as it’s own sentence. Therefore it can’t be an independent clause.

It's not connected to "who enters the flaw and is contaminated." The independent clause is "Dax is also split in two." The changed text separates them.

I’m talking about the meaning. Yes they substituted “and” for “also” within the list of the sentence but the meaning of the sentence remains the same.

They didn't. Also is placed where and was, and it makes no sense for them to retcon the text to keep the meaning the same.

This is a terrible argument. Everyone has rejected this CRT for good reason.

 

[Xearsay]

It's not connected to "who enters the flaw and is contaminated." The independent clause is "Dax is also split in two." The changed text separates them.

The text does not separate them. And the scan doesn’t say “Dax is also split in two.” As shown from the scan itself.

“Who selflessly enters the flaw and is contaminated- -is also split in two.”

“-is also split in two” cannot be its own independent clause because it’s not a complete thought.

They didn't. Also is placed where and was, and it makes no sense for them to retcon the text to keep the meaning the same.

This is a terrible argument. Everyone has rejected this CRT for good reason.

What do you mean by “Also is placed where and was”?

That’s because they didn’t retcon anything. They just edited the sentence from “Who selflessly enters the flaw and is contaminated- -and is split in two” to “Who selflessly enters the flaw and is contaminated- -is also split in two.” Which literally means the same thing.

 

[Deagonx]

“-is also split in two” cannot be its own independent clause because it’s not a complete thought.

I literally just explained this.

That’s because they didn’t retcon anything. They just edited the sentence from “Who selflessly enters the flaw and is contaminated- -and is split in two” to “Who selflessly enters the flaw and is contaminated- -is also split in two.” Which literally means the same thing

The basic concept that they retconned the wording to maintain the same meaning is not even worth taking seriously.

 

[Xearsay]

I literally just explained this.

No what you did was lie and claim the part of the sentence after the dash was an independent clause when it’s not.

Deagonx - “The dashes separate the first event in such a way that "is also split in two" becomes an independent clause.”

The basic concept that they retconned the wording to maintain the same meaning is not even worth taking seriously.

Who said they retconned anything? Also the word retcon doesn’t even make sense with how you’re using it. A retcon is when a writer introduces a new interpretation of a narrative that is different from an old one. It has nothing to do with changing the wording or rewording a sentence which is what’s happening here.

 

[Deagonx]

No what you did was lie and claim the part of the sentence after the dash was an independent clause when it’s not.

Except it is. Dax being split is a separate clause from him entering and being contaminated. The text was edited to reflect that.

Who said they retconned anything?

The text was deliberately altered and you're suggesting they changed it to maintain an identical meaning, which is not worth taking seriously.

 

[Xearsay]

Except it is. Dax being split is a separate clause from him entering and being contaminated. The text was edited to reflect that.

It’s not an “independent clause” like you claimed. It’s a dependent clause as “is also split in two” is an incomplete thought and cannot stand as it’s own sentence. “Dax Novu enters the flaw and is contaminated” is the independent clause because it is a complete thought and can stand as its own sentence.

The text was deliberately altered and you're suggesting they changed it to maintain an identical meaning, which is not worth taking seriously.

You're acting like they changed the entire sentence. They replaced “and” with “is also.” Which is literally replacing a conjunction with another conjunction. Making the sentence mean the same damn thing as the other versions of Multiversity. You’re acting like it’s impossible for sentences to be reworded and still hold the same meaning. Saying this is “not worth taking seriously” is not an argument.

 

[Deagonx]

Okay. I don't feel the need to repeat myself any further. I think the evidence speaks for itself very clearly.

 

[Alonik]

Okay. I don't feel the need to repeat myself any further. I think the evidence speaks for itself very clearly.

same

 

[Xearsay]

Don’t care. You both can leave the argument in silence next time. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

 

[Deagonx]

Lol.

 

[Alonik]

Lol.

He thinks he won cuz he replied as the last one

 

[Xearsay]

He thinks he won cuz he replied as the last one

No that’s what you guys think. That’s why you all keep replying and arguing despite expressing that this is a waste of time and that you don’t feel the need to continue. You’re all trying to get the last comment when that literally doesn’t mean anything.

 

[Deagonx]

He really said "I know you are but what am I" as his response.