Continuation of Saitama vs Ultimate Emerl

[Tou_aperceber]

I find that this thread (https://vsbattles.com/threads/saita...ama-vs-emerl-4-7-0.158994/page-3#post-6091841) was disingenuous to say the least. Most votes were given due to Ultimate Emerl's copying and ability to copy Saitama's AD, when it's explicitly stated that UE was already dying due to having absorbed too much power and was at his limit. There were also claims of their AP being near of a one shot difference, except Saitama upscales by being at a casual one-shot difference from Garou at the end of their fight. So here we go again.

Starting distance is 20 meters

Parallel Timeline Saitama vs Ultimate Emerl

Speed is equalized

Battle takes place on Jupiter. Saitama has prior knowledge of the Egg Blaster's Attack Potency

Saitama's Attack Potency: Tanked the collision of Serious Punch Squared then became way stronger in his fight with Garou, reaching a point of trivializing Garou's own massively upscaled power from the feat(>>>>67.38 Exafoe) and as such should be at least one shot difference from this value

Emerl's Attack Potency with the Final Egg Blaster: 465 Exafoe

Saitama's allowed to destroy the Final Egg Blaster if he chooses to

Both are 4-A

Saitama:

Emerl: Fezzih_007, noninho, omegabronic, Maverick_Zero_X, GlaceonGamez471, XxZetsuxX, Shmooply

Inconclusive:

 

[Tou_aperceber]

Saitama's win cons: better Skill, better AD
Emerl's win cons: AP Advantage, Chaos Manip and Mid-High regeneration

Both start with hand-to-hand in character I believe

 

[Fezzih_007]

Ok emerl Fra then.

 

[Tou_aperceber]

Ok emerl Fra then.

alright added, but can you explain why

 

[Fezzih_007]

alright added, but can you explain why

Ok, just wait a second.

 

[Fezzih_007]

Well, Emerl have a 346x speed amplification, so he can easily blitz Saitama. And he also have the AP advantage to bassically two-shot Saitama. His Regenaration is also a thing Saitama can't exactly deal it. And combines all this with Chaos Control, is gg for Saitama.

 

[noninho]

Emerl FRA
chaos control is ultra busted

 

[Tou_aperceber]

Well, Emerl have a 346x speed amplification, so he can easily blitz Saitama. And he also have the AP advantage to bassically two-shot Saitama. His Regenaration is also a thing Saitama can't exactly deal it. And combines all this with Chaos Control, is gg for Saitama.

his speed amp was decreased to x56, saitama upscales from his AP by a one shot difference, and Emerl doesn't start with chaos control.

 

[Tou_aperceber]

Emerl FRA
chaos control is ultra busted

Except he doesn't start with it in character

 

[Robo432343]

his speed amp was decreased to 56, saitama upscales from his AP by a one shot difference, and Emerl doesn't start with chaos control.

56 is still too much man

also saitamas AP wouldn't do much due to the regen

 

[Fezzih_007]

his speed amp was decreased to x56,

What? When it as decresead?

saitama upscales from his AP by a one shot difference

So? He just uspcaling would mean nothing, Emerl still have the considerable AP advantage.
Like, i could see if they both have the same value, and Saitama uspcaling would make him stronger. But he don't so...

, and Emerl doesn't start with chaos control.

I din't say he start, but if he uses, Saitama is cooked.

 

[Tou_aperceber]

56 is still too much man

also saitamas AP wouldn't do much due to the regen

His AD would still close it considerably fast and the following is in Sonic's profile: "Fought and ultimately inflicted enough damage to break down Ultimate Emerl within 30 seconds, who was stated to have surpassed his limits after capturing the power of the Final Egg Blaster."
So all he needs to do is the same, seeing as Sonic himself doesn't have Regen Negation. Don't forget that Emerl is dying already due to having surpassed his limits

 

[Tou_aperceber]

What? When it as decresead?

CBSlayer mentioned it in the previous thread. (from this I believe https://vsbattles.com/threads/sonic-the-hedgehog-the-lean-mean-spin-dashing-machine.151031/ )

 

[Tou_aperceber]

So? He just uspcaling would mean nothing, Emerl still have the considerable AP advantage.
Like, i could see if they both have the same value, and Saitama uspcaling would make him stronger. But he don't so...

Saitama has knowledge of this as per specified and Emerl doesn't use speed amps out of the gate in character from what I was told in the previous thread, so he'd use Garou's Martial arts, which he used against him until the end of the fight.

I din't say he start, but if he uses, Saitama is cooked.

And when does he use them? Did he use them in any of his fights?

 

[omegabronic]

his speed amp was decreased to x56

no it wasn't

, saitama upscales from his AP by a one shot difference

hardly matters here

, and Emerl doesn't start with chaos control.

he doesn't start, but saitama can't kill his fast enough before he does use it


Emerl FRA

 

[Fezzih_007]

CBSlayer mentioned it in the previous thread. (from this I believe https://vsbattles.com/threads/sonic-the-hedgehog-the-lean-mean-spin-dashing-machine.151031/

Yeah you wrong, this thread is to apply the 56 speed amp, and this thread is to apply the 300x amp, that never got downgrade.
Look at the date for both threads.

Saitama has knowledge of this as per specified and Emerl doesn't use speed amps out of the gate in character from what I was told in the previous thread, so he'd use Garou's Martial arts, which he used against him until the end of the fight.

I hardly see how Saitama having Knowgelemt changes things.
And even if Emerl din't start with boost(He does), if he does so, Saitama would get blitzed.

 

[omegabronic]

Btw, Emerl copies skill as well, so keep that in mind

 

[Tou_aperceber]

no it wasn't

It was, I've linked the thread. nvm it wasn't

hardly matters here

Makes it not a one-shot, so it matters.

he doesn't start, but saitama can't kill his fast enough before he does use it

How so? All he needs to do is use the Perfected Martial Arts to either reflect his attacks or deflect them

Emerl FRA

Alright

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

It was, I've linked the thread

No. It wasn't

Yeah you wrong, this thread is to apply the 56 speed amp, and this thread is to apply the 300x amp, that never got downgrade.
Look at the date for both threads.

 

[Tou_aperceber]

Yeah you wrong, this thread is to apply the 56 speed amp, and this thread is to apply the 300x amp, that never got downgrade.
Look at the date for both threads.

Yeah, you're right

I hardly see how Saitama having Knowgelemt changes things.
And even if Emerl din't start with boost(He does), if he does so, Saitama would get blitzed.

In the previous thread, it was said he doesn't start with it. You're just confusing me

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

his speed amp was decreased to x56, saitama upscales from his AP by a one shot difference, and Emerl doesn't start with chaos control.

Speed amp wasn’t decreased, and even if it were an over 50x difference would still be a huge blitz.

Anyway Emerl FRA

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Emerl FRA

 

[Tou_aperceber]

Speed amp wasn’t decreased, and even if it were an over 50x difference would still be a huge blitz.

Anyway Emerl FRA

Yeah, I concede this point, except that I watched his battles, and I've yet to see him use the speed amp, even when he was losing to Sonic. So no blitz

 

[Tou_aperceber]

Guess I'll count though

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Emerl FRA

 

[Tou_aperceber]

Guess people don't wanna debate with what the character uses when in character. Guess this thread was a stupid effort

 

[Fezzih_007]

Guess people don't wanna debate with what the character uses when in character. Guess this thread was a stupid effort

Even if he don't use, Saitama still would get One-Shot. Even if he doest, when Emerl decides to use his hax, is over for Saitama. Even if he don't open with them, he still uses this abilites;
And he was no way to deal with Emerl regenaration too.

 

[Tou_aperceber]

Even if he don't use, Saitama still would get One-Shot.

He wouldn't. The one shot difference is x7.5, this one is roughly x6.9

And he was no way to deal with Emerl regenaration too.

He doesn't need to. Ultimate Emerl only needs to take enough damage to die, that's what sonic did. It's in Sonic's profile : "Fought and ultimately inflicted enough damage to break down Ultimate Emerl within 30 seconds, who was stated to have surpassed his limits after capturing the power of the Final Egg Blaster." He only needs to do the same thing Sonic does.

 

[omegabronic]

How so? All he needs to do is use the Perfected Martial Arts to either reflect his attacks or deflect them

Regen that he can't take out fast enough + his so called "martial arts" will be copied alongside his experience

 

[XxZetsuxX]

I said that too in the last thread, But he didn't believe me ;-;

 

[Fezzih_007]

He wouldn't. The one shot difference is x7.5, this one is roughly x6.9

Right, two-shots then.
1 punch, one kick

He doesn't need to. Ultimate Emerl only needs to take enough damage to die, that's what sonic did. It's in Sonic's profile : "Fought and ultimately inflicted enough damage to break down Ultimate Emerl within 30 seconds, who was stated to have surpassed his limits after capturing the power of the Final Egg Blaster." He only needs to do the same thing Sonic does.

He can't trought, he don't have the AP to do so. And Emerl wincons seems way more likely to happen, due to how many he have, as opposed to Saitama who only wincon is "Punch emerl super hard" which may not even happen, due to Emerl skill.

 

[omegabronic]

He wouldn't. The one shot difference is x7.5, this one is roughly x6.9

which is close enough for emerl to severy damage saitama with few attacks

He doesn't need to. Ultimate Emerl only needs to take enough damage to die, that's what sonic did. It's in Sonic's profile : "Fought and ultimately inflicted enough damage to break down Ultimate Emerl within 30 seconds, who was stated to have surpassed his limits after capturing the power of the Final Egg Blaster." He only needs to do the same thing Sonic does.

Saitama is not Sonic, he doesn't know that he needs to do that, countrary to Sonic who did all he could to deal enough damage to do that, saitama wouldn't know that, Emerl would likely use his hax first before saitama realizes what he needs to do

 

[Fezzih_007]

I said that too in the last thread, But he didn't believe me ;-;

Sturboness lol.
Is a good trait, but you have to admit you defeat sometimes;

 

[Fezzih_007]

Saitama is not Sonic, he doesn't know that he needs to do that, countrary to Sonic who did all he could to deal enough damage to do that, saitama wouldn't know that, Emerl would likely use his hax first before saitama realizes what he needs to do

Saitama have prior knowlegemetn

Edit never mind, he just have knowlegement about his attack potency for some reason.

 

[omegabronic]

Saitama have prior knowlegemetn

oh i see, well, you summarized well enough what i think even still

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Right, two-shots then.
1 punch, one kick

which is close enough for emerl to severy damage saitama with few attacks

That's also what i said

 

[Fezzih_007]

Saitama has prior knowledge of the Egg Blaster's Attack Potency

Well actually

 

[Tou_aperceber]

Right, two-shots then.
1 punch, one kick

Except his AD would have kicked in the first punch, so making die in the second already extremely unlikely

He can't trought, he don't have the AP to do so. And Emerl wincons seems way more likely to happen, due to how many he have, as opposed to Saitama who only wincon is "Punch emerl super hard" which may not even happen, due to Emerl skill.

His AP can just increase via AD??? And Saitama outskills Sonic, who killed Ultimate Emerl in 30 seconds.

which is close enough for emerl to severy damage saitama with few attacks

Again, his AD would kick in

Saitama is not Sonic, he doesn't know that he needs to do that, countrary to Sonic who did all he could to deal enough damage to do that, saitama wouldn't know that, Emerl would likely use his hax first before saitama realizes what he needs to do

He doesn't need to know, it's a fight. He's in his serious state, so he'd be dishing out as much damage as he can, like he did against Garou.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Except his AD would have kicked in the first punch, so making die in the second already extremely unlikely

Man, Saitama and Garou started as equals

Saitama's AD would increase like 2x with the second punch at best because the first punch he won't feel anything because he won't expect a powerful punch

 

[noninho]

Except he doesn't start with it in character

se liga, i've never said so.

I din't say he start, but if he uses, Saitama is cooked.

imma make those words my own