Sonic Spin Dash Adjustment

[LaserPrecision]

A very simple change. It just adjusts the currently accepted multiplier according to some minor details I forgot. My original calc didn't account for the zig-zag Sonic did on the stairs or the fact the robot I was directly comparing his speed to was moving several times faster than the other ones due to carrying some of amped Sonic's momentum. Raises the result by a little over 5x. Obviously I had it evaluated and reevaluated before making this. So no need to worry about that.

And before anyone asks, NO, this isn't calc-stacking. EVERY value used is from the exact same scene/moment.

Agree: 12 (@Gilad_Hyperstar, @omegabronic, @The_Axiom_of_Virgo, @GlaceonGamez471, @Fezzih_007, @KingTempest, @CloverDragon03, @ShakeResounding, @Remus1998, @Eseseso, @Starter_Pack)
Neutral: 1 (@JJSliderman, @Theuser789)
Disagree:

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

If it's accepted then sure

 

[omegabronic]

agree

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Y'all addicted to speed gets some help.

I've still got some personal reservations about cross-scaling Prime to the "main" continuity but for the time being this seems fine to me.

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Y'all addicted to speed gets some help.

No. Moar. Moar speed
Jokes aside, the calc is accepted by two calc members, I agree

 

[omegabronic]

If this is a pure calc thing, then why isn't this a calc group discussion thread?

 

[Fezzih_007]

I agree.

 

[KingTempest]

If this is a pure calc thing, then why isn't this a calc group discussion thread?

calc group discussion threads would've been for seeing which calc is better
this is just implementing a calc into the scaling

looks good to me

 

[CloverDragon03]

Y'all addicted to speed gets some help.

We're Sonic fans, that's kind of our thing

Anyways this is fine

 

[omegabronic]

calc group discussion threads would've been for seeing which calc is better
this is just implementing a calc into the scaling

looks good to me

Didn't knew that, thank you for informing me

 

[Alexander]

Ok

 

[ShakeResounding]

Hot damn, what a nice buff to the Spin Dash.

I agree!

 

[Remus1998]

Fair enough, I agree

 

[Eseseso]

This is low key getting out of hand.

But the math doesn't lie, so I agree.

 

[JJSliderman]

Admittedly my reservations stem from my lack of knowledge regarding the methodology used, so I guess I’ll remain neutral.

 

[LaserPrecision]

Admittedly my reservations stem from my lack of knowledge regarding the methodology used, so I guess I’ll remain neutral.

It basically just measures how much distance Sonic covered compared to the bots in the same timeframe. You divide the distance Sonic covered by the distance the robots covered to get how many times faster he has to be to do that.

 

[JJSliderman]

Yeah, I guess I’m just not sure why one robot moving faster after Sonic hit it means that the actual speed gap increased.

 

[LaserPrecision]

Yeah, I guess I’m just not sure why one robot moving faster after Sonic hit it means that the actual speed gap increased.

Ohhhhh. It's because Sonic made the robot look slow in comparison to himself. Despite said robot moving 5x faster than the rest due to carrying a portion of Sonic's momentum after being impacted. So him covering much more distance than that robot in the same timeframe would be a lot more impressive than if he were moving the same speed as the rest of the robots. It's basically like viewing a guy moving at 10 m/s in slow-mo vs seeing a guy moving at 50 m/s moving in slow mo. The latter is far more impressive. 5x more impressive.

 

[Starter_Pack]

This seems fine.

 

[Theuser789]

Faster multipliers, yay! I agree.

 

[JJSliderman]

Ohhhhh. It's because Sonic made the robot look slow in comparison to himself. Despite said robot moving 5x faster than the rest due to carrying a portion of Sonic's momentum after being impacted. So him covering much more distance than that robot in the same timeframe would be a lot more impressive than if he were moving the same speed as the rest of the robots. It's basically like viewing a guy moving at 10 m/s in slow-mo vs seeing a guy moving at 50 m/s moving in slow mo. The latter is far more impressive. 5x more impressive.

Ah, thank you.

 

[Mephistus]

great work!

 

[LaserPrecision]

Ah, thank you.

Np

 

[JJSliderman]

Actually now I’m wondering why you multiply the distance the robot Sonic hit moved by the original value to get this new one

 

[LaserPrecision]

Actually now I’m wondering why you multiply the distance the robot Sonic hit moved by the original value to get this new one

Multiply the distance? I just multiplied the result by 5x. Since to statue someone moving 5x faster than the other robots, that'd have to be his speed.

 

[JJSliderman]

But how can Sonic statue something when it’s moving with the speed he’s currently using.

 

[Alexander]

You forgot about me

 

[JJSliderman]

But how can Sonic statue something when it’s moving with the speed he’s currently using.

Or maybe I’m just misunderstanding the concept here, in the short burst where the robot is moving faster than the other ones it seems to be moving at equivalent speed to Sonic.

 

[LaserPrecision]

But how can Sonic statue something when it’s moving with the speed he’s currently using.

It's not carrying ALL of Sonic's momentum. Just a portion of it. So he's moving faster than the other robots, but slower than Sonic. If it absorbed all of Sonic's momentum, he would have lost all speed and stopped immediately. But he still carried enough to hit several other robots without any significant change to his speed.

 

[JJSliderman]

Oh I see, so the calc is determining how fast Sonic would have gone if he didn’t hit anything, and the fact that something partially charged with his speed after contact is 5x faster than everything else means his speed without sacrificing any momentum is 5x above the speed he achieves in the clip.

 

[LaserPrecision]

Oh I see, so the calc is determining how fast Sonic would have gone if he didn’t hit anything, and the fact that something partially charged with his speed after contact is 5x faster than everything else means his speed without sacrificing any momentum is 5x above the speed he achieves in the clip.

That IS one way you could actually interpret it actually. That's now how I would've explained it, but since that is one valid way to view it, I'll simply leave it at that.

 

[Remus1998]

bump

Also damn that Triple Boost gonna be a 41,421,736 multiplier now

 

[JJSliderman]

Wouldn’t it just be 3x whatever the boost gives, instead of treating it as a boost on top of another boost.

 

[omegabronic]

Wouldn’t it just be 3x whatever the boost gives, instead of treating it as a boost on top of another boost.

could we not derail this thread with something that has not much to do with it?

 

[CloverDragon03]

It's been over 48 hours with 2 staff agreements, so this can be applied

 

[ShakeResounding]

I'm probably not gonna be able to perform edits tonight, but I can definitely start tomorrow.