Comprehensive DC Comics Revision: Clearing up everything Monitor-related

[Firestorm808]

That's not what happened. Superman is in the Source. There is no end to it. Batman grabs the staff and sees Superman in the Source. Superman sees the staff and flies to touch it. There's a weird space expansion that happens keeping Superman from the staff. Eventually, he makes contact. The wall opens, and Superman is across the wall again.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Didn't the Thought Robot also make the ending or reality "to be continued"?

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Nice thread

So how far would the brothers, Perpetuna, Barbatos (I think), The Thought, Mandrakk and The Monitor Race be into the 1-A scale if they're pieces of The Overvoid?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I'm probably not the first one to ask this but what about the Endless?

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

I'd assume some like Destiny would remain since because DC still uses Multiversity's map of the multiverse, we see Destiny existing at the top of The Overvoid so it's safe to assume that he would be unaffected

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

^ I asked this question as well... I believe they can be upgraded from 1B as they were originally backscaled from the Monitors or at least the Multiverse. Since the truest , highest possible extent of the Multiverse before the Source Wall is 1-A now ( since Limbo is before the Source Wall ) . They should be upscaled IMHO.

Backpedaling off of Coward, would Vertigo's totality [ as Universe to Kultiverse ] or destroying Creation from Vertigo is now outright 1-A instead of at highest 1-B ? I mean it makes sense as even Faerie is referred to as a timeless realm before the concept of time, and that realm is blatantly within the Universe. Now that in combination with this should cement the xake.

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Also I have a statement from Grant Morrison which comes from his book, Supergods and in this instance, he's talking about Final Crisis and Mandrakk:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/382600205960347649/602977943127457844/20190722_173850.jpg

"What would happen if the void of the page took issue with the quality of the material imposed upon it and decided to fight back by spontaneously generating a living concept capable of devouring narrative itself? A nihilistic cosmic vampire whose only dream was to drain the multiverse dry of story material, then lie bloated beneath a dead sun, dying"

The Overvoid created Mandrakk, who he describes as a living concept, to devour narative and drain the multiverse of story material to fight, who I'd assume now is Perpetuna, back the one who imposed it and wrote the flaw on it's form

 

[Yobo_Blue]

So, Perpetua did indeed create the flaw?

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

So, Perpetua did indeed create the flaw?

Well in Final Crisis the one who put in that flaw was a writer according to Grant Morrison, but in the recent comics it seems to be the work of Perpetuna

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I thought the Endless scaled above the Monitors, not below them?

 

[PrinceOfTheMorning]

They need to have a revision at some point.

On topic though, should I close the thread now? It's finished, and the current conversation seems more suited for general discussion.

 

[Jared1111]

The only thing I guess is unresolved would be if Superman should scale to 2-A from punching out World Forger. But that could be brought up in another thread

 

[PrinceOfTheMorning]

That subject deserves its own thread, yeah. I'll close this one then.