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Bleach Bankai General Discussion 19

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Amlad22 said:
Neither lol what
Hisagi's new key from the light novels for his true Shikai and Bankai. Hisagi fought Hikone who fought Base and Shikai Kenpachi and Kenpachi was interested in how strong Hisagi became that wanted to fight Hisagi. Hisagi is captain level now.
 
Hisagi isn't as strong as Kenpachi lol, he couldn't even fight Hikone smh. His Bankai doesn't mean much since it's purpose is to stalemate no matter what the difference in power is.
 
Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:
Hisagi isn't as strong as Kenpachi lol, he couldn't even fight Hikone smh. His Bankai doesn't mean much since it's purpose is to stalemate no matter what the difference in power is.
No limit fallacy.
 
@Apple

It's not an NLF, it's the literal exact purpose of the Bankai. It's outright stated to be as such: it links the two persons trapped in it and equalizes their Reiryoku via the mass of chains, and all damage is reverted via utilizing the shared Reiryoku mass until both persons are drained fully and die.

It's not an NLF to state the ability of the Bankai is to do what we are told it does
 
Tbf it technically will still be a NLF no matter what was stated. That's jsut how this site accepts things for some reason
 
Man it literally doesn't matter bro. Apple is right. What do u think is going to happen if someone try's to put Toshiro agaisnt someone who is the probably universe to galaxy to even solar system. Assuming he can equalize energy of that level when he has never shown to before is a NLF.
 
AstralKing7 said:
Man it literally doesn't matter bro.
Apple is right. What do u think is going to happen if someone try's to put Toshiro agaisnt someone who is the probably universe to galaxy to even solar system. Assuming he can equalize energy of that level when he has never shown to before is a NLF.
I have no idea what you're saying here. You don't even know the ability and called it a NLF lol.
 
AstralKing7 said:
Xulrev literally just said what it does man. So yeah that's a NLF depending on the opponent
Which he then states isn't a NLF, you clearly don't understand what it does and even mentioned Toshiro for some reason.

His bankai works against others stronger in comparison to himself. both of their energies fuel the bankai. Stronger person will constantly kill the other person but it won't matter because they'll be reverted back to how they were before getting killed as long as either of them have energy. This will continue until no one has energy left.
 
Shuhei ain't even close to Hikone. What novel did you guys read? Shuhei takes his own reiatsu and his enemies and pools it together. Physically he was getting absolutely destroyed by Hikone. Not even being able to put up a fight under Hikone's power. He was being ripped to pieces. It isn't a NLF at all.
 
i see ppl dont know how to use NLF correctly... yes a country vs a SS+ tier is NLF... but ill say country hax would work on a planet tier but anything higher is meh yall scream NLF for any tier thats higher which is stupid .. if thats the case then most fights wouldnt even matter
 
Bleach has been shown to have magic and aura, during a VSB against a user character of aura or magic, the reiatsu will still be equalized magic and aura?
 
Amlad22 said:
Shuhei ain't even close to Hikone. What novel did you guys read? Shuhei takes his own reiatsu and his enemies and pools it together. Physically he was getting absolutely destroyed by Hikone. Not even being able to put up a fight under Hikone's power. He was being ripped to pieces. It isn't a NLF at all.
Don't know what you read, but Hisagi did not want to harm Hikone. He wanted to save the child. Hisagi didn't defend himself against his attacks because he wanted the child to listen to him and stop listening to Tokinada. Hisagi's ability was able to handle someone on Hikone's level, Hisagi was able to cut Tokinada, and Kenpachi was interested in Hisagi after he had already fought Hikone. Is a no limit fallacy to say that Hisagi can use his powers in someone stronger than himself. What's next Hisagi vs the Soul King? SK doesn't have feats of countering Hisahi's Bankai, so Hisagi wins?
 
so the oniverse wiki made SK multi universal.. i can get why they did it tho.. he did create everything and earth would be in its own universe same with SS
 
Zezu1995 said:
so the oniverse wiki made SK multi universal.. i can get why they did it tho.. he did create everything and earth would be in its own universe same with SS
Could you send the link, please?
 
?????

No, no and no. Hisagi wanted Hikone to listen to him, but when he gets ripped to shreds by casual swings of Hikone's sword, it's clear the power gap between them is huge. Zaraki was only interested in him because his Bankai represents everything Zaraki has ever wanted, a person for him to cut down and kill endlessly. He's the sparring partner Zaraki always wanted but could never get. Zaraki gets interested in people all the time, look at Grimmjow. Despite them being far far apart power wise, Grimmjow's ruthless personality and way of fighting was enough to get Zaraki interested.

As has been said my other people already, you clearly don't understand what a NLF actually is.
 
KazuiK said:
Zezu1995 said:
so the oniverse wiki made SK multi universal.. i can get why they did it tho.. he did create everything and earth would be in its own universe same with SS
Could you send the link, please?
its on a death battle group on fb gotta see the scan there im going to bed but ill get it another time for u
 
Amlad22 said:
?????

No, no and no. Hisagi wanted Hikone to listen to him, but when he gets ripped to shreds by casual swings of Hikone's sword, it's clear the power gap between them is huge. Zaraki was only interested in him because his Bankai represents everything Zaraki has ever wanted, a person for him to cut down and kill endlessly. He's the sparring partner Zaraki always wanted but could never get. Zaraki gets interested in people all the time, look at Grimmjow. Despite them being far far apart power wise, Grimmjow's ruthless personality and way of fighting was enough to get Zaraki interested.

As has been said my other people already, you clearly don't understand what a NLF actually is.
You don't know what you're talking about. Kenpachi isn't interested in fighting people weaker than himself. Anyone would get cut against Hikone's attack if they stand still without any sort of resistance is obvious that he didn't even used passively Reiatsu to tank the attacks.
 
So now Grimmjow is on Base Kenpachi Level? If you're gonna say things that are wrong at least try to be convincing about it. Kenpachi cares about if you'll put up a good fight and be entertaining, he doesn't give a damn about anything else.

You clearly have no idea about the basics of Kenny's character or the power scaling of Bleach for that matter if you think both Grimmjow and Shuhei are equal to Base Kenny.
 
kenpatchi say that he want to fight grimmjow , pretty clear cut.

but kenpatchi only say that he can't wait to test techniques on hisagi wich point more toward hisagi just being a slashing bag.

not to say that hisagi'sbankai couldn't defeat kenpatchi at the cost of hisagi own life too as it seems really strong for 1v1 as long as your ok with thunder mc queen results
 
Amlad22 said:
So now Grimmjow is on Base Kenpachi Level? If you're gonna say things that are wrong at least try to be convincing about it. Kenpachi cares about if you'll put up a good fight and be entertaining, he doesn't give a damn about anything else.

You clearly have no idea about the basics of Kenny's character or the power scaling of Bleach for that matter if you think both Grimmjow and Shuhei are equal to Base Kenny.
What good fight would Grimmjow and Shuhei provide for him if neither of them can cut him? Are you even hearing yourself? Nothing you're saying makes sense.
 
AppleLord said:
Amlad22 said:
So now Grimmjow is on Base Kenpachi Level? If you're gonna say things that are wrong at least try to be convincing about it. Kenpachi cares about if you'll put up a good fight and be entertaining, he doesn't give a damn about anything else.

You clearly have no idea about the basics of Kenny's character or the power scaling of Bleach for that matter if you think both Grimmjow and Shuhei are equal to Base Kenny.
What good fight would Grimmjow and Shuhei provide for him if neither of them can cut him? Are you even hearing yourself? Nothing you're saying makes sense.
its not like Zaraki can guess from a glance if opponent can, or cannot cut him

otherwise he wouldn't waste his time on Ichigo in SS arc,and would leave the second he saw Strawberry-Kun
 
MetalGearRaiden said:
AppleLord said:
Amlad22 said:
So now Grimmjow is on Base Kenpachi Level? If you're gonna say things that are wrong at least try to be convincing about it. Kenpachi cares about if you'll put up a good fight and be entertaining, he doesn't give a damn about anything else.

You clearly have no idea about the basics of Kenny's character or the power scaling of Bleach for that matter if you think both Grimmjow and Shuhei are equal to Base Kenny.
What good fight would Grimmjow and Shuhei provide for him if neither of them can cut him? Are you even hearing yourself? Nothing you're saying makes sense.
its not like Zaraki can guess from a glance if opponent can, or cannot cut him
otherwise he wouldn't waste his time on Ichigo in SS arc,and would leave the second he saw Strawberry-Kun
Thanks for proving my point.

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a question

the power of the Tsukishima cause him to receive information on who is affected?
Tsukishima said he knew how to override all the kidous of Byakuya
 
My god now you're actually arguing for Grimmjow being on Zaraki's level. The stupidity has gone too high I'm done here. I made my points.
 
the thing is , zaraki saw the espada transform and said that he wanted to fight grimmjow. why would zaraki say that if he didn't thought that grimmjow be somewhat strong ?

in SS arc , zaraki got hyped at ichigo because ikkaku said he was strong but here it is different , zaraki hyped himself from his own conclusion.

i'm not saying that grimmjow could beat kenpatchi but maybe he could at least force him to use shikai wich would still be a pretty good feat
 
heh , then that mean that zaraki just thought that grimmjow had the closest fight mentality so he would be more fun to fight ? i dunno , it just seem weird for kenpatchi to say that if it doesn't hold water .
 
It just means Grimmjow is strong compared to the others that were there and he had an interest in fighting him. Outside of that it's not exactly quantifiable.
 
Didn't Hisagi literally said that Hikone is too much for him in an actual fight? Because that could easily put the final nail in the coffin of this weird scaling between Hisagi and Kenpachi that doesn't exist.
 
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