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Bleach Bankai General Discussion 17
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I don't really see why this matters...Naeblis495 said:
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it matters to me as i always known that bleach was far superior to the the other HST but it was never recognise anywhere ,this wiki included.
just feel good to have bleach have what is rightfully his : the title of strongest in the HST
just feel good to have bleach have what is rightfully his : the title of strongest in the HST
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why ?
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Because people are more concerned with who's stronger rather than actually accurate statistics, not to say that that this thread/fanbase is the ONLY one's guilty of it, in fact it's ALL over the wikia in all fanbases, it just leads to toxicity amongst each fanbase as they clash for superiority.
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That was indeed uncalled for.
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well , your " actually accurate statistics" that put bleach god tier in 5-C was proven wrong while all the bleach fan knew it was incorrect given the many , many statements of holding planets together and also destroying them , all of those got dissmissed , ignored or given the "outlier" treatment
we have been fighting for the truth and it's just feel good to finaly got it . i don't see how that is toxic but whatever .
we have been fighting for the truth and it's just feel good to finaly got it . i don't see how that is toxic but whatever .
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Sounds delusional.
Sure we knew it was wrong, but we weren't "fighting for the truth", we were just waiting for all the evidence and when it felt right.
You're overblowing it.
Sure we knew it was wrong, but we weren't "fighting for the truth", we were just waiting for all the evidence and when it felt right.
You're overblowing it.
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fine , i'll reformulate : I've been fighting for the truth on multiple forum trying to put bleach at planet level for years ( mainly french forum tho) and had enough always seeing the same downplaying .
sorry for overblowing it , i'll stop talking about it now ,sorry .
sorry for overblowing it , i'll stop talking about it now ,sorry .
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Thank you.
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i mean,it still is just one wiki (well,in your case 2 forums,including the french one)Naeblis495 said:
i've seen bleach characters wanked to heavens on other wikis
like,Gremmy being tier 3 for "creating galaxies" and soulking Yhwach and ichigo being low 2-C
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Omnipotent means nothing.
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Now we need:
- Create a profile for Hikone, Aura and Tokinada.
- Resolve the size of Karakura and Las Nights.
- Calculation of Bankai Yama
- Thunderbolt Calculation
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Maybe the bleach wiki has a reference? Though I heard it's not too reliable.
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torrent of graviy
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Bleach wiki is very reliable as it gives sources for everything, the only issue is it doesn't upload the novel details despite them being canon and confirmed canon directly by Kubo.
They're pretty hypocritical about canon since the upload the anime parts, but won't do the novel.
They're pretty hypocritical about canon since the upload the anime parts, but won't do the novel.
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The databook says this about Hado 90
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The translation is not 100% correct, but it is an approximation of what it is.
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The translation is not 100% correct, but it is an approximation of what it is.
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So Yhwach can time travel to the future now according to the Bleach wiki?IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
"Ten years in the future, Yhwach attempts to use The Almighty to destroy the future by infiltrating it with his Reiatsu, but due to Ichigo defeating him ten years prior the Reiatsu vanishes altogether.[115][116]"
Ichigo killing Yhwach in the past makes the Reiatsu that he sent to the future disappeared? ƒÖê
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That makes perfect sense, in fact, that's the exact same interpretation I have of the final two chapters.
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what?! Ichigo has not killed him in the past, the novel says that Yhwach's remains are scattered around the world, in the final chapter Aizen states that the last remnant of Yhwach's power finally appeared. Kazui absorbed him, nothing indicates that Ichigo killed him in the past. lol
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Did you not see ichigo literally spilt Yhwach in half?
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Ichigo kills Yhwach 10 years before the final chapter.
The novel doesn't say Yhwach's remains are scattered around the world. Yhwach's remains are sealed up.
In the final chapter Aizen states the remnants of Yhwach's Reiatsu is gone.
Nothing states Kazui absorbed him and we don't know Kazui's powers, that's headcanon.
What you're stuck on is "Ichigo killed him in the past" and I don't think you're getting that part.
The Almighty works by transforming the future. Yhwach, who is in the present, transforms the future. Ichigo killed Yhwach in the present when Yhwach was using the Almighty. Recall before Yhwach leaves back to Soul Society that he would slaughter Ichigo and his friends at their happiest moments?
The novel doesn't say Yhwach's remains are scattered around the world. Yhwach's remains are sealed up.
In the final chapter Aizen states the remnants of Yhwach's Reiatsu is gone.
Nothing states Kazui absorbed him and we don't know Kazui's powers, that's headcanon.
What you're stuck on is "Ichigo killed him in the past" and I don't think you're getting that part.
The Almighty works by transforming the future. Yhwach, who is in the present, transforms the future. Ichigo killed Yhwach in the present when Yhwach was using the Almighty. Recall before Yhwach leaves back to Soul Society that he would slaughter Ichigo and his friends at their happiest moments?
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That's interesting since the wiki doesn't operate on interpretation but accurately to canon. If it's not clear what happened they should just say it, but of course people are disgusted with the idea that Kazui is just that powerful and blast him away or hax it out of existence. For all we know Kazui absorbed it or Yhwach did time travel to the future, whoever the manga doesn't explain what happened in detail.IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
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if yhwach already used the Almighty to "slaughter them in their happiest moment" , him dying a bit later shouldn't change that fact that he already altered the future no ?
it's like : i kill a dog , i get killed right after , the dog is still dead . the only way to prevent the dog dying is by stopping me BEFORE i kill it .
it can't be that he used the almighty after being defeated and sealed because well , he's sealed .
i don't claim knowing what happened but it seems weird to me to claim that because he got defeated all events that he should have already changed to be nullified because , as we saw , the almighty is instant , if yhwach already altered the future by killing them in their happy moment , him dying in the present shouldn't impact something that technically already happened in the future thank to almighty
or that mean that defeating him completly nullify Almighty but then the question is : what does yhwach reiatsu does in the living world and with what intent ?
i'm no native english so what i've written must sounds like gibberish ... i hope i got my meaning through tho
it's like : i kill a dog , i get killed right after , the dog is still dead . the only way to prevent the dog dying is by stopping me BEFORE i kill it .
it can't be that he used the almighty after being defeated and sealed because well , he's sealed .
i don't claim knowing what happened but it seems weird to me to claim that because he got defeated all events that he should have already changed to be nullified because , as we saw , the almighty is instant , if yhwach already altered the future by killing them in their happy moment , him dying in the present shouldn't impact something that technically already happened in the future thank to almighty
or that mean that defeating him completly nullify Almighty but then the question is : what does yhwach reiatsu does in the living world and with what intent ?
i'm no native english so what i've written must sounds like gibberish ... i hope i got my meaning through tho
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