Bleach Bankai General Discussion 17

[Warren_Valion]

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We're currently in the Limbo arc due to the influx of unfinished CRTs:

• Quincy Blut Vene resistance
• MHS+ for Pre-Time skip characters
• Unohana and possibly the others scaling to High 6-A.
• Reiatsu: AP =/= Durability
• Gremmy's immortality
• Resistance scaling for some Quincy
• Immortality and Regenerationn for Zero diVision
• Aizen Kyouka Suigetsu Additions
• Possible Bleach Speed Update

Discuss!

 

[USklaverei]

pineapple

 

[KazuiK]

@USklaverei

Is it possible to calculate the size of the palace of the king of souls?

 

[DazaiJisatsuManiac]

ƒÿ«

 

[M11UTD]

So when are we getting that 2-C Soul King profile? /eye emoji

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Cool wings

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

That does look cool not gonna lie

 

[FuuHouHou]

With a washed face, at Aizen's house, Madara is beaten ÔÖ½

(Yes, I read this by singing.)

 

[Warren_Valion]

Cool wings

I agree, I just wonder why they are mechanical.

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

CRT for Mimihagi and Abstract Existence

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3121252?useskin=oasis

 

[Ovy7]

So I've seen people saying that the Ultra Fragor wasn't made from 6 Fragors, but 12. Their reasoning is that the eyes also created Fragors to fuel the UF, which seem to be true:in this scan we see the eyes having the same sound effect as the mouths ; and in this scan we see energy coming from the eyes too, not just from the mouths .

What do you guys think of this?

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

You're right actually.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

What Sigurd said.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

But what does it mean? I don't think we have a fragor calc.

 

[Ovy7]

So that makes the feat two times better than before. Nice!

 

[Aernasilver]

Here is the colored panel for it. You can see the purple light coming from the eyes and mouths. So yes it is 12 fragors.

 

[Davidsteel1]

Sorry where's the fragor calc? It isn't on the series page

 

[Aernasilver]

I don't think we have one.

 

[Davidsteel1]

I don't think we have one.

We don't? That's a surprise

 

[Ovy7]

There are two calcs, but IMO it isn't something you can properly calc, as the Fragor is more of an concentrated AP explosion. With those calcs, 1 Fragor is weaker than the current accepted Lanza, even tho that a weaker VL Ichigo contained Lanza in his palms with 0 damage, while 1 Fragor burned Dangai Ichigo's arm, meaning that the Fragor is much much stronger than the Lanza.

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

So I've seen people saying that the Ultra Fragor wasn't made from 6 Fragors, but 12. Their reasoning is that the eyes also created Fragors to fuel the UF, which seem to be true:in this scan we see the eyes having the same sound effect as the mouths ; and in this scan we see energy coming from the eyes too, not just from the mouths .

What do you guys think of this?

Wow...

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

That's a crazy find, 10 years after it came out.

 

[TataHakai]

Yeah that does look like 12 rather than 6

 

[Xulrev]

Realistically, Fragor should scale to Lanza outright due to the reasons Ovy mentioned. Do we have a currently-accepted Lanza calc, sidenote?

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

Realistically, Fragor should scale to Lanza outright due to the reasons Ovy mentioned. Do we have a currently-accepted Lanza calc, sidenote?

Not yet, Las Noches' current size calc is based on an absurd and flawed pixel scaling.

Since we've moved forward with statements for Seireitei, we should do the same for Las Noches.

Then a calc for Cero Oscuras, Gran Rey Cero and Las Noches can be done.

 

[TataHakai]

Wouldn't Lanza, Cero oscuars and GRC turn out to be an outlier if it hits Country level?

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

If all three of them showcase a similar level to each other, that being around country level than we'd have a decent amount of consistency.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

No, not even close. Hado of the 90th level are stated to be comparable in potency as Gran Rey Cero I think. And I'm quite certain Kenpachi thanked like 100 Hado 90+ going off in his face in that other novel.

 

[Xulrev]

Hado 91 explicitly is referred to as being more potent than Gran Rey Cero in Spirits Are Forever With You, the Hado that Urahara utilized a full incantation for when blasting Aizen directly.

Aizen was unscathed, sidenote.

 

[USklaverei]

I did a calculation of the Lanza with the current accepted size and gave Country, we also have the feat of Yamamoto, however all this needs the size of Karakura and Las Noches.

 

[TataHakai]

Las noches's size will likely be done with the Nel statement i suppose since horizon scaling nor pixel scaling works.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

I did a calculation of the Lanza with the current accepted size and gave Country, we also have the feat of Yamamoto, however all this needs the size of Karakura and Las Noches.

Didn't you calculate Karakura already?

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

He didn't, he did a calc using an assumed sized for Karakura, but it was flawed it's assumption.

 

[USklaverei]

Yes, but Damage has raised a good point about why it is wrong.
The OP was left in limbo, so I do not know.

 

[USklaverei]

Could someone tell me what height of a mountain we consider here?

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

average wiki height I assume.

 

[TataHakai]

609 meters if i recall correctly

 

[Xulrev]

Therefir told me yesterday it is 609 meters, Tata is correct. It was important for another calc I was attempting.

 

[KazuiK]

According to the novel, Full Hollow Ichigo is on the same level as Hikone with 20% of power.

"Every time Grimmjow stepped in closer, his sinews tightened. Yes, it was evident that this Shinigami in front of him was dangerous. Yes, this child's youthful appearance was misleading and the creature's Adjuchas-like look masked by the reiatsu of a very high class Hollow was unnerving indeed. Grimmjow understood all that. This Shinigami named Hikone emitted reiatsu which was very similar to that of Kurosaki Ichigo but no Hollow hole had opened up for the world to see. It was essentially a living thing. If the soul itself is considered to represent the world, then; it was as if the hole gets punctured the more the world became crowded."

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

That doesn't say that.