Bleach Bankai General Discussion 17

[W0NDER3X]

Damn, i wish i could give you a Nnoitora since i got him twice :/

I hope they add a gifting system or exchange system in BBS soon. They can easily restrict it for the rerollers just like they prevented hackers from farming extreme raids. Just make it so you must have a 30+ rank account or something.

 

[TataHakai]

Using 30 seconds gives us 899 Exatons of TNT or Small Planet level

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

I see, that makes sense then.

I think the timeframe is shorter via IMade's explanation.

 

[Xulrev]

The cylinder is far more accurate, agreed.

The timeframe is a bit odd though, considering what we see occur

The rubble is still being lifted while they say 'Seems we've arrived', and then the moment the gate opens the entire city is already rebuilt.

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

Simply out of curiosity what would the yield of 10 and 5 seconds be? Obviously it didn't happen that fast but I'm interested in what those time frames would yield.

 

[TataHakai]

I'm personally fine with 30 seconds, it could be higher but the rating won't change so it should work as a good end.

 

[Xulrev]

Even if the rating doesn't change, I'm just moreso concerned with accuracy even in the minutiae, sorry if it comes off as wanting an upgrade.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

@Tata

What do you think the timeframe should be with Xulrev scans?

 

[TataHakai]

10 seconds would be 8 zettatons of TNT

5 seconds would be 32 Zettatons of TNT

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

timeframes sure are powerful

 

[TataHakai]

It took about 4-5 pages completely from when they realised the ground was being lifted to when Ichigo and Co arrived

I'd say anything from 10 to 30 seconds is fine.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Will you make a blog?

 

[TataHakai]

Yeah give me a second

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

Well then hows about this


30 seconds for the low end, 20 for the mid end and 10 for the high end?

 

[Xulrev]

Thanks for doing the calcs so quickly, Tata.

Curiosity: do you use the omnicalculator for your calcs? Such as this one for instance: https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/kinetic-energy? Only asking to verify its usefulness as it seems to be exceptionally helpful

 

[TataHakai]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:TataHakai/Bleach:_Yhwach_does_some_heavy_lifting

I used 30 as a high, 15 as a mid and 5 as a high end

Personally i'm fine with 30 or 15, maybe leaning more to the mid end

 

[TataHakai]

Thanks for doing the calcs so quickly, Tata.
Curiosity: do you use the omnicalculator for your calcs? Such as this one for instance: https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/kinetic-energy? Only asking to verify its usefulness as it seems to be exceptionally helpful

Omni calculator is good but it really doesn't matter i think, all of them give the same result

Personally i always use this one http://www.csgnetwork.com/kineticenergycalc.html

 

[Xulrev]

Thanks Tata! As I said, just personal reference for use in my own calcs I do in the future. Much appreciated, as is the blog post

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

@Tata

You forgot the ice that covered the buildings and that Raven included in his attempted revision of the calc.

 

[TataHakai]

I don't think we're allowed to pixel scale the way Raven did with the way we handle bleach now

Unless we know for sure the Ice covered the entirety of the wandenreich? I suppose then you could get a mass for it the same way we got it for the buildings and streets.

Even then i don't think the ratings will change, but the values will go up.

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

I'll look for colored scan aerials

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

It's not full coverage, but it's on every building and street of the Wandenreich.

 

[Xulrev]

I commented in reply to your response on the blog, IMade, presuming a simple 1-inch thick sheet over the entirety of Wandenreich. Feel free to double check any of it, but idk how much it significantly adds?

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

idk if that's quantifiable

 

[Damage3245]

The cylinder is far more accurate, agreed.
The timeframe is a bit odd though, considering what we see occur

The rubble is still being lifted while they say 'Seems we've arrived', and then the moment the gate opens the entire city is already rebuilt.

Could just be a simple timeskip between those panels.

 

[KazuiK]

The rocky thing that Yhwach towers along with the wandereich should not be added too?

 

[TataHakai]

It's not full coverage, but it's on every building and street of the Wandenreich.

We could probably use it with a hollow factor of 80 or 90% maybe?

I do see it being everywhere but as you said it's barely covered, 80% could work i think

Edit: Also KazuiK which rocky thing?

 

[Xulrev]

I'll leave that to you then, I have no clue how to account for that so did a simple 1-inch high cylinder covering the entirety of Wandenreich. Lookin forward to see what that adds, if anything!

 

[KazuiK]

@Tata

one minute I'll scan

 

[Sekkonds.]

80% hollowness could work

 

[KazuiK]

@Tata

Sorry for the delay.

https://**********.com/manga/bleach/69121/capitulo-628#/!page5

Sorry for not providing a better Scan, I'm a little busy.is at the bottom of the page, I do not know if this can help but it can be something.

 

[Xulrev]

That gives me a timed out URL Kazui; I'm assuming you meant to link this image: https://mangalife.us/read-online/Bleach-chapter-628-page-5.html ?

Cuz that would be all the ice from Wandenreich

 

[KazuiK]

@Xulrev

Thanks, sorry for the delay.

 

[Xulrev]

No problem, glad I could help!!

 

[TataHakai]

Well after a bit of research i found this study that suggests that Ice lenses building on concrete can reach up to 15 millimeters of thickness which seems about right

 

[KazuiK]

This looks good.

 

[KazuiK]

Well after a bit of research i found this study that suggests that Ice lenses building on concrete can reach up to 15 millimeters of thickness which seems about right

Did you check the Scan I was talking about ?? If so, can this improve the results?

 

[TataHakai]

Not unless i use pixel scaling which might make people bring up the whole Kubo's schrodinger topic up again.

Personally i think the current calc is fine, it'd make Casual Yhwach and Ichigo and Aizen? Low 5-B, and if the Novel threads upgrade them to 5-B then it'll be a good supporting feat.

 

[KazuiK]

That's what I thought, in fact this calculation makes 5-B Bleach easier to accept.

 

[Aernasilver]

Noice. Good supporting feat.