BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[Naeblis495]

Isn't if 1 blade is 7m that means 7*100 = 700 m range ?

Arc said " .7" meters , wich is 0.7 meters

 

[Spilxson2]

Why is Fullbring Arc Chad High 6-A while TYBW Chad is High 6-B? There's nothing showing that he got weaker. Also this is implying Chad is stronger than Unohana

 

[zylieo]

Why is Fullbring Arc Chad High 6-A while TYBW Chad is High 6-B? There's nothing showing that he got weaker. Also this is implying Chad is stronger than Unohana

Arc is working on TYBW revisions

 

[Spilxson2]

Arc is working on TYBW revisions

It's still a bit strange how pre-TYBW Chad is above Unohana though

 

[Deceived3596]

Ichibe's absolutely the strongest "pure" shinigami during that arc, he's above Bankai Yamamoto who would dookie dogshit all over Bankai Kenpachi, Adult Toshiro and Gerard. His scaling hasn't changed, he's still beastly as ****.

 

[Spilxson2]

Ichibe's absolutely the strongest "pure" shinigami during that arc, he's above Bankai Yamamoto who would dookie dogshit all over Bankai Kenpachi, Adult Toshiro and Gerard. His scaling hasn't changed, he's still beastly as ****.

I thought Bankai Kenpachi would just one shot Yamamoto

 

[Deceived3596]

TYBW Bankai Kenpachi wouldn't, CFYOW Kenpachi would, or at least he would arguably one-shot him, depending on your opinion of the scaling.

 

[Reio35]

eos kenpachi is put on the same tier as ichigo and aizen

Not even close yhwachs finger beam was going to wipe out kenpachi along with the G13 and a suppressed aizen wiped them out with ease. Ichigo threw hands with yhwach same yhwach had absorb Gerard who dwarfz kenpachi in power

Cfyow kenny is overrated that doesn't change anything

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Isn't if 1 blade is 7m that means 7*100 = 700 m range ?

Are you dumb or stupid, reread what I typed

 

[YukaSama4]

There's no blade that's ******* 7m in length
It's 0.7

 

[Spilxson2]

Is it okay if I change Gin's profile to say "at most 6-B, higher with bankai"? Or do I have to be an admin or something to do that

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Are you dumb or stupid, reread what I typed

Yeah my bad

 

[Deceived3596]

Nah, your average Japanese sword is actually Masamune length.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

You need a CRT

Is it okay if I change Gin's profile to say "at most 6-B, higher with bankai"? Or do I have to be an admin or something to do that

 

[MrBluePants]

That will be added. New scenes and fights will be added thanks to the sacrifice of filler stuff from the manga that added nothing to the fights. Fights will be fast paced like the Ichigo vs Yhwach one.

Well the Ichigo vs Yhwach fight won't feel rushed tho at least and it'll be expanded on. Ep 13 is gonna be longer - sorta like the recent KNY s3 finale episode.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

TYBW Bankai Kenpachi wouldn't, CFYOW Kenpachi would, or at least he would arguably one-shot him, depending on your opinion of the scaling.

CFYOW Kenny definitely one shotting Yama

Narita Force go too hard lmao

 

[AppleLord]

Well the Ichigo vs Yhwach fight won't feel rushed tho at least and it'll be expanded on. Ep 13 is gonna be longer - sorta like the recent KNY s3 finale episode.

Anime fight we got.

 

[Reio35]

We better get holy form jugram and uryu imagine their abilities

 

[Excellence616]

We better get holy form jugram and uryu imagine their abilities

Or they give use TZ Ichigo with broken abilities

 

[Spilxson2]

We better get holy form jugram and uryu imagine their abilities

I'm more hoping we get to see Ukitake's bankai and Ichigo not only have 2 moves

 

[Ovrhide]

They threw the transendence shit out the window in tybw tbf.

pretty much. A lot of shit in this wiki is pure assumption cause they still believe transcendence means something after aizens defeat. Trust me, when the anime is done, a lot of rework has to be done here. That’s just a fact.

 

[Ped2018]

pretty much. A lot of shit in this wiki is pure assumption cause they still believe transcendence means something after aizens defeat. Trust me, when the anime is done, a lot of rework has to be done here. That’s just a fact.

iirc CFYOW still uses the term "transcendence"

 

[Reio35]

pretty much. A lot of shit in this wiki is pure assumption cause they still believe transcendence means something after aizens defeat. Trust me, when the anime is done, a lot of rework has to be done here. That’s just a fact.

Im neutral on this. In the tybw they seem to not be able to sense aizen. Kisuke could only gauge his power based on the destructive power of his kido. In the novels it implied hikone was about to become a transcended being and shatter the boundary. Tho the fact plp could sense ichigo makes me second guess

 

[skippy]

Heard that episode 26 of tybw will be 1 hour long from multiple people, apparently it covers the Whole Yhwach vs Ichibei Fight.

 

[Blallooo]

Heard that episode 26 of tybw will be 1 hour long from multiple people, apparently it covers the Whole Yhwach vs Ichibei Fight.

1 hour is too much for that single fight. Probably It'll just be 2 episodes in succession. Not a fan of this ngl, if cour 4 will be the shutzstaffell fights what will even reamain to cover for cour 3 ? There's not even a big battle in the chapters between
And I hope they don't rush too much this cour...

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

1 hour is too much for that single fight. Probably It'll just be 2 episodes in succession. Not a fan of this ngl, if cour 4 will be the shutzstaffell fights what will even reamain to cover for cour 3 ? There's not even a big battle in the chapters between
And I hope they don't rush too much this cour...

Possible CFYOW adaptation

 

[KINGWILLTHEGREAT0815]

Possible CFYOW adaptation

The 52 episodes are going to be solely for the tybw arc we’re just going to get a whole cour of additional content at this pace

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

The 52 episodes are going to be solely for the tybw arc we’re just going to get a whole cour of additional content at this pace

I guess maybe Kubo will add Backstory for SK possibly can stretch the narrative

 

[YukaSama4]

Hope we're getting Kisuke & Yoruichi flashback, Narita said that he asked Kubo to draw it after he finished CFYOW so let's see if that's gonna happen

 

[AppleLord]

pretty much. A lot of shit in this wiki is pure assumption cause they still believe transcendence means something after aizens defeat. Trust me, when the anime is done, a lot of rework has to be done here. That’s just a fact.

In CFYOW Soul KIng Yhwach is stated to have transcendent reiatsu.

 

[AppleLord]

1 hour is too much for that single fight. Probably It'll just be 2 episodes in succession. Not a fan of this ngl, if cour 4 will be the shutzstaffell fights what will even reamain to cover for cour 3 ? There's not even a big battle in the chapters between
And I hope they don't rush too much this cour...

Kubo will probaby add fights for the Fullbringers, Grimmjow, Nel, Hallibel, Chad vs statues and expand upon Uryu vs Jugram. Maybe Isshin, and Ryuken vs Gerard, etc. I believe 100% the final fight agaisnt Yhwach will include more than just Aizen and Ichigo vs Yhwach. (Renji was never there just an illusion of KS)

 

[AppleLord]

Why can’t aizen make yama think he’s stabbing him with KS when he’s not if he controls all 5 senses how can yama tell he’s actually being stabbed with KS reiatsu?

Was Aizen not using KS and just talking bs to yamma?

 

[Reio35]

In CFYOW Soul KIng Yhwach is stated to have transcendent reiatsu.

Having transcended power doesn't mean anything. That same statement was made for shikai Yamamoto. It doesn't mean you transcended the boundary unless theirs context

 

[Blallooo]

r/bleach gotta a goldmine of terrible power level takes

 

[Spilxson2]

r/bleach gotta a goldmine of terrible power level takes

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

On very existent misfit

 

[Spilxson2]

You need a CRT

https://vsbattles.com/threads/gin-ichimaru-upgrade.155816/

 

[AppleLord]

Having transcended power doesn't mean anything. That same statement was made for shikai Yamamoto. It doesn't mean you transcended the boundary unless theirs context

Yhwach aborbed the Soul King who transcended the boundary himself for been the first "mutt" being in existence and his reiatsu. Take the L-context.

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

I analyzed Bleach's discussion rules to rewrite them to be more clear and concise.

• Regading Sosuke Aizen and Dangai Ichigo, Aizen uses the metaphor of describing their "transcendant" transformation as being akin to a third dimensional lifeform being superior to a second dimensional lifeform. However, this is only metaphorical to illustrate the difference between them and other characters and it is not suggested that the characters actually possibly some kind of physiology of higher-dimensional lifeforms. Revisions should not be made to add this to these characters.

This rule was discussed in https://vsbattles.com/threads/aizen-higher-dimensional.118768/ and https://vsbattles.com/threads/making-a-rule-to-bleach.118772/ and added at https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Discussion_Rules?type=revision&diff=7170483&oldid=7162306. I will be linking the threads in my rewrite.

• The current size for the Seireitei is accepted as being 785.45 kilometers in radius based on information from interviews mentioned in the above link. There are visuals and other issues that contradict that size, but currently the word of god is held to be the most reliable source on this matter. Any future revisions concerning the size of the Seireitei should wait for additional evidence from the likes of databooks, adaptations, Word of God, etc. which could affect our current understanding of the Seireitei.

This rule was discussed in https://vsbattles.com/threads/new-issues-with-the-calculated-size-of-the-seireitei.120359/ and https://vsbattles.com/threads/verse-specific-rule-removal-and-small-bleach-rule-change.146146/ and applied in https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Discussion_Rules?type=revision&diff=7195996&oldid=7185481 and https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Discussion_Rules?type=revision&diff=7801739&oldid=7781612. I will be linking the threads in my rewrite.

• Gremmy creating outer space has been discussed numerous times and even accepted to be legitimate/scale to his AP but was rejected as an outlier as it is tiers above any other feat performed in the series by characters of his calibre and is inconsistent with Gremmy's other feats in his battle with Kenpachi.

This rule was discussed in https://vsbattles.com/threads/bleach-possible-gremmy-ap-upgrade.129998/ and added in https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Discussion_Rules?diff=7369980&oldid=7360699. I will be linking the thread in my rewrite.
How do you guys feel about me rewording the discussion rules to read like this?

• Do not attempt to upgrade Sosuke Aizen and Dangai Ichigo or give them Higher-Dimensional Existence based on Aizen describing their "transcendent" transformation as being akin to a 3D lifeform being superior to a 2D lifeform. This description metaphorically illustrates the power gap between them and other characters and doesn't suggest they literally possess a higher-dimensional lifeform's physiology.
• Do not attempt to change the accepted 785.45-kilometer size of the Seireitei based on visuals contradicting this size without new information, as the information obtained from author interviews is considered more reliable than those visuals.
• Do not attempt to upgrade Gremmy Thoumeaux based on his feat of creating outer space, as this feat, despite legitimately scaling to his statistics, is extremely inconsistent with his general performance and the feats of other characters on his level and is thus considered an outlier.

 

[Spilxson2]

Was Yachiru's profile deleted?